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acrylix 04-28-2012 12:04 PM

Google's Penguin Update
 
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/19526146.jpg

Personally haven't been hit by this one yet (minus one small blog). But have had Google smack down a quality handwritten site before which never recovered, so I feel the pain. That site was my pride and joy...but it got knocked out after some scraper posted thousands of off-topic anchor text links to me all over various spammy sites. That happened years ago, but the usual cadre of Google worshipers were still bahhing about how Google would never do such a thing.

For those who still think that just playing by the rules, and creating quality original content will keep your sites safe, I ask what you will do when an external "over-optimization" penalty comes knocking at your door? File a re-inclusion request? :1orglaugh

Google has finally admitted that other webmasters are "able to harm your ranking or have your site removed from our index."

http://support.google.com/webmasters...n&answer=34449

Quote:

Google works hard to prevent other webmasters from being able to harm your ranking or have your site removed from our index. If you're concerned about another site linking to yours, we suggest contacting the webmaster of the site in question. Google aggregates and organizes information published on the web; we don't control the content of these pages.
Did you get that first sentence?

$5 submissions 04-28-2012 04:12 PM

I hear where you are coming from. This is still the adjustment phase. Expect more wild gyrations soon.

With that said, BH and gray hat forums have been buzzing endlessly about Penguin's inner workings.

Maybe this is a signal to focus on a few sites and really work on quality and creating a meaningful user experience through ETHICAL means, no?

ckamp1 04-28-2012 04:24 PM

That sucks!

Cash4Me 04-28-2012 06:17 PM

Penguin update is still alive, don't bother too much.
Negative SEO is a problem that we know for years and now google scientists say it's true, sarcastic.

signupdamnit 04-28-2012 06:20 PM

Much of the issue is that Google is primarily concerned about hitting large corporations and brands. Smaller brands and sites seem to be seen as some sort of collateral damage. It is easier to get hit by a "spam penalty" if you are a small fry than if you have a bigger site and brand. There almost appears to be a presumption where if your site is small or less popular then you are some sort of spammer or low quality.

If Google can't make an algorithm change without causing 10% or higher false positives then if they had any sense at all they just wouldn't do it until they could prevent this. The song and dance about only affecting 3% of queries is obviously a bunch of bullshit. Google doesn't lose a thing besides some Goodwill by screwing a big percentage of smaller webmasters. But it's their site so what can you do besides but up some links to Bing? :)

VforVendetta 04-28-2012 07:38 PM

http://www.seobythesea.com/wp-images...nalytics-2.jpg

just a punk 04-29-2012 01:55 AM

Check this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=python+hosting

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

$5 submissions 04-29-2012 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18914826)
Check this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=python+hosting

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

OK :Oh crap

There's other examples of the #1 result being an empty page

:helpme:(:1orglaugh:mad:

just a punk 04-29-2012 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrylix (Post 18914052)
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/19526146.jpg

Personally haven't been hit by this one yet (minus one small blog). But have had Google smack down a quality handwritten site before which never recovered, so I feel the pain. That site was my pride and joy...but it got knocked out after some scraper posted thousands of off-topic anchor text links to me all over various spammy sites. That happened years ago, but the usual cadre of Google worshipers were still bahhing about how Google would never do such a thing.

For those who still think that just playing by the rules, and creating quality original content will keep your sites safe, I ask what you will do when an external "over-optimization" penalty comes knocking at your door? File a re-inclusion request? :1orglaugh

Google has finally admitted that other webmasters are "able to harm your ranking or have your site removed from our index."

http://support.google.com/webmasters...n&answer=34449



Did you get that first sentence?

https://docs.google.com/a/google.com...E6M Q&ndplr=1

Cash4Me 04-29-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18914826)
Check this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=python+hosting

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

Serps relevance is lost for a lot of queries.
What a great goal.

Klen 04-29-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18914826)
Check this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=python+hosting

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Interesting considering some people said how with this update keyword domains will lose it's advantage,this prove opposite.

Spudman 04-29-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VforVendetta (Post 18914573)

this is brilliant, made me laugh! :thumbsup

acrylix 05-01-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18914862)

Another Penguin success story. :thumbsup I'm sure the Google webspam team is busy as we speak analyzing each of the tens of thousands of pleas to reconsider penalized "quality" sites. NOT

acrylix 05-01-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18914408)
Maybe this is a signal to focus on a few sites and really work on quality and creating a meaningful user experience through ETHICAL means, no?

It's always a good idea to create quality sites. But with the current volatility of Google, I wouldn't be putting all my eggs into just a few. As posted above, Google has openly admitted that you can be smacked down, and even de-indexed, due to factors completely outside of your control. Though many of us believe this is nothing new...the fact that they're not beating around the bush anymore about it is.

Interestingly, they make no mention of contacting Google about any shady "over-optimization" tactics a competitor may be doing to you. Instead, their helpful suggestion is to contact each of the hundreds/thousands of sites which are linking to you. :1orglaugh

Add to that the way Penguin's been slaughtering folks since it waddled into the SERPs...and I'd say it doesn't exactly create a climate where one feels safe about pouring their blood, sweat, and tears into just a few super high-quality sites.

2intense 05-01-2012 11:09 AM

:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by VforVendetta (Post 18914573)


CyberHustler 05-01-2012 11:51 AM

:1orglaugh

SpeedoDave 05-01-2012 02:03 PM

My blog AussieGayGuy.com has been fluctuating from 2K google results a day 3 months ago, then down to 500, back up to 1,000 and then last week it jumped back up to 2K.

Business as usual here but some pretty wild traffic swings I tell you.


Dave

georgeyw 05-01-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedoDave (Post 18919394)
My blog AussieGayGuy.com has been fluctuating from 2K google results a day 3 months ago, then down to 500, back up to 1,000 and then last week it jumped back up to 2K.

Business as usual here but some pretty wild traffic swings I tell you.


Dave

Aren't you the guy who speedo was suing?

asdasd 05-01-2012 07:36 PM

Amusements!


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