unknown unsigned artist trying to use the pirate bay to get on the charts
no media buys
no record label http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...g-charts.shtml and he is giving away all the music for free on torrents so you don't have to pay him a dime if you don't want to. but wait porno jew and kane said it was impossible you could only be successful if you were already famous because of a record deal. |
dear gidiot, when another can replicate this without being a file sharing gimmick artist with songs like "Sharing is Caring" let me know.
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his name was jonathan coulton code monkey charted and so did portal song he wrote for the game and lindsey stirling and so has zoe keating . Zoë's self-produced album One Cello x 16: Natoma has four times made it to #1 on the iTunes classical charts. |
Steve Lightspeed should use pirate bay for promotion.
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I never said you can't be successful without record labels. I said you can't be a super star without record labels.
Get back to me when he sells out a world tour where every stop has 10,000+ seats. |
So some freetards play instruments. So what.
That makes up for all those that have their shit stolen? I don't think so. . |
That's it. When iget behind my computer Gideon can join Paul on my ignore list. God that guy is an annoying worthless idiot.
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yeah it really is the way of the future
forget about youtube with its billions of views. all the smart musicians are hitting up the pirate bay |
He tried to get a record deal but no company he approached showed any interest.
So he really doesn't have that many options but to give the music away for free and hope that some people buy it. Naturally, a lyric style against "the man" is more likely to get the publicity he needs. I'm sure any further releases will be along exactly the same lines. When talking about his "fanbase" he says "None of that would have been possible without file-sharing" - which is odd because, ummmmm it certainly is possible without filesharing lol. |
he do that to gain public, and then he go to world and sell tickets to public
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all those artist became number 1 on charts without a massive media push that made them a house hold name And they didn't have to give the record companies 95% to do it. |
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and why do you believe that you should have a right to take tool people who are using it legitimately just because other people use for piracy. It the equivalent of saying that porn should be outlawed completely because some people make kiddie porn. |
I never heard a good song of those who offer it for free,they are all crap.
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did he make money so far?
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I need to go buy some more sunflower seeds. Can't torrent them. Maybe I'll just sneak in and grab them.
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2. at the current rates taken by the studio and the tour managers/agents zoe keating make more money selling out 1750 seat art theater then she does on a 10k + stadium. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...ck-stars.shtml unless you are in the top 200 tours ASCAP just takes money from your pocket if you play a larger theater. so just like the music selling examples http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...ing-without-me 77k kickstarter campaign is the equivalent to an established artist selling 1.7 million in record sales. do an apples to apples comparision (money in your pocket) |
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I will say it again. I never said that an artist can't be successful without a major label. I know for a fact that they can be. In some cases they can make more money selling significantly fewer records on their own than they would if they were on a major label because the label isn't taking most of the profit. What I said is that you can't be a superstar without being on a major label. If you want to be an indie who makes a few bucks and makes a living and does their own thing, great. These days you can stay out of the major label system. If you want to be U2 or Taylor Swift or Bruce Springsteen or Britney Spears you have to be on a major label because you will need their money, influence and connections to get your name out there on the scale that is needed to reach that level. That is it. That is all I said. |
Posting the song on Youtube... hmm... seems like a good try. "Download from Pirate Bay" - sounds like something that could be against some rules. Many might want to hear the music for free. By the way, Youtube already has lots of videotaped live concerts.
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the point is, this artist is willingly giving away his music and is more then welcome to do so...but shouldn't other artists have the right to not have their music given away for free if they choose not to?
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We didn't outlaw the VCR because some people daisy chain them together to make boot leg copies (until Sony figured out a way to stop that) they went after the people who USED the tool to infringe, they didn't outlaw the tool Why do you believe you have a right to take away the tool from all the people who want to use it. |
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and you know it https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7216... t_one_excuse connect to the link without a torrent client on your machine and see how much copyright material you can get. VCR could infringe with nothing more than the content sold by the company who made them (sony made both the tape cassettes and the recorders). The pirate bay has way less direct association to copyright infringement then Sony did way back in the day. |
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It may have happened in the 60's or maybe even the 70's, but once a few major companies took control of all of the major radio stations artists needed them in order to get the mass appeal and the only real way to get access to them is through the major labels. A person can have a hit song without a major label, but there is a big difference between having one hit song and being a superstar. |
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If anything that a reason to leave sites like the pirate bay and mega upload alone. |
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your arguing that an artist should lose that revenue stream and replace it with a cost. Would you support a 200% tax on your content to give free money to independent artist mega upload was profitable and the only reason they disappeared is because the government violated the procedures they were supposed to follow. |
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I'm sure everyone, including their current visitors, would leave both the pirate bay and mega upload alone if they where not stealing from anyone. Just look at myspace and be your own judge :wink wink: How much do you allow the record label companies to make in profits before their work should be pirated and shared amongst thieves and scumbags ? |
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I simply said if you want to be a superstar like U2 or Taylor Swift you need the help of a major label. As for The Pirate Bay and Mega Upload being left alone. . . that is another topic that I am not going to debate because it will do nothing but waste time. |
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This is a clear example of the tool being used LEGALLY and yet your still attributing the actions of the users to the tool go back and try and download copyright material from the pirate bay without a torrent client on your machine. https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7216...Not_one_excuse you can't even infringe without the actions of another completely independent company. With the vcr you could "infringe" with just the products sold by a Single company. |
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How to become a famous DJ thanks to megaupload:
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as to being convicted they were convicted of assisting copyright infringement when the police admitted they didn't know if the pirate bay trackers were involved because they left DHT turned on. They got rail roaded once. They have no totally disabled the tracker completely. So if they turn off DHT (limit themselves to only transactions the pirate bay is involved in) now no copyright infringement will happen at all. |
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number 8, 10,11,12,13,14,15,16 on the best selling hip hop /rap charts http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestselle...music_1_3_last and number 1 on the Reggae chart |
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When you use the give it away for free, and if you like it buy it model you can give a shit load of your music away for free. Quote:
that the stupidest statement you have ever made one simple entry in the webhosting plan allows me to redirect www.mybandname.com/myalbum to what ever mega upload link i want. Remember the whole pointer thing with files means that if i uploaded my file to mega upload first (something i could easily do if i were the copyright holder) i got credit for the download (because everyone else was a pointer to that file not their uploaded version of the file) something i could not get if i hosted it myself. |
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Would you do it. And if you have a problem with me telling you to pay more for no good reason, why do you believe it ok to do it some one else. |
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