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evulvmedia

03-30-2012 06:13 AM

The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)

Just got this e-mail:

Quote:

Dear Madam/Sir,

the BPjM is an administrative authority of the German government called ?Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien?. Our task is to protect children and adolescents in Germany from any media which might be harmful or dangerous to minors (e.g. racist / violent / pornographic content). This work is authorized by the ?Youth Protection Law? (Jugendschutzgesetz ? JuSchG). You can find further information about our work in the enclosed form.

A German youth welfare institution has requested the BPjM to examine the site www.MYDOMAIN.com and to enter its address into the ?list of youth-endangering media? because of its pornographic content. Such content ? according to German law ? may then only be distributed if a valid age verification system ensures that no minors (i.e. people under the age of 18) will be able to access the site and its content.

We would like to ask you to forward us your post address, so that we can then properly notify you about the request by the youth welfare institution and give you the opportunity to reply within one week after the notification.

Best regards,

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Im Auftrag

Natalja Tiz
__________________________
Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien

Rochusstraße 10, Haus D, 53123 Bonn
Telefon: 0228 962103-0
Fax: 0228 379014
E-Mail: [email protected]
Internet: www.bundespruefstelle.de

Is this legit? It looks legit!

Does this mean that my freesite will be blacklisted and inaccessible in Germany? Germans are good customers; I don't want that to happen.

Anyone ever dealt with this before?

Just Alex

03-30-2012 06:14 AM

Hit delete button.

DamianJ

03-30-2012 06:15 AM

Ask Ma Dalton, but AFAIK, the krauts have strict AVS laws.

k0nr4d

03-30-2012 06:22 AM

Yes german sites must have an entry page. French as well I think. You must also have an 'impressum' page with all your contact details.

Overload

03-30-2012 06:25 AM

if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...1 55&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)

evulvmedia

03-30-2012 06:30 AM

Quote:

if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ...

No, I am American and this site is hosted in the good ole' U.S. of A., where this stuff is legal, at least until Rick Santorum becomes President and brings good ole' German-style censorship to our Homeland! Also the domain registration is private.

Slappin Fish

03-30-2012 06:32 AM

yep got one of those once.

I ignored it, they fined me something like 8000 Euros. I'm waiting for them to come collect...dumbasses :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Overload

03-30-2012 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia (Post 18853278)

hah, then ignore their letters - there is nothing they can do about it :2 cents:

grumpy

03-30-2012 07:33 AM

Yes, you can and will be blacklisted if you don't make a German landings page according to their rules

Spudstr

03-30-2012 07:38 AM

We get emails all the time from the turkey gov asking us to take customer sites down and obey their "self reporting law" and disable the pornographic sites.

*delete*

barcodes

03-30-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

the BPjM is an administrative authority of the German government called „Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien“

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/.../mindblown.gif
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1577119_o.gif

u-Bob

03-30-2012 07:56 AM

Delete.
Or
Delete and add a dynamic warning page to (part of) your site.

pseudocode:
if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is set then show the porn.
if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is not set and ip is german ip then display warning page.

jimmycooper

03-30-2012 07:58 AM

Ich will ficken Micaela Schäfer! :thumbsup

u-Bob

03-30-2012 07:58 AM

or get their ip from the email headers and return a warning page to every visitor using an ip in the same c range.

jimmycooper

03-30-2012 08:03 AM

adultmobile

03-30-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 18853272)

Nathan of Manwin is a german citizen, and not see avs in pornhub's, so is valid citizenship or server or company location or just german govt email small tubes but not manwin yet?

faxxaff

03-30-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 18853272)

Your conclusion is wrong. Germany does not discriminate against people based on citizenship. It's laws are valid for all people who reside or do business in Germany, not just for German citizens.

faxxaff

03-30-2012 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 18853386)

We get emails all the time from the turkey gov asking us to take customer sites down and obey their "self reporting law" and disable the pornographic sites.

*delete*

Yeah, getting them as well. Also from Brazil. Funny.

Klen	03-30-2012 08:16 AM

You need to either block german traffic or make a special version with age verification system for it.

xxxbusiness

03-30-2012 08:18 AM

ignore and delete, never give your adress or any private info.
There is also no landing page and nothing else you need, as long you, your domain and server are in US.
The one thing you can get blacklisted, is from google-Germany chiling effects, nothing else

Denny

03-30-2012 08:19 AM

Many adult sites (including pornhub.com) get delisted from google.de.

just a punk

03-30-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evulvmedia (Post 18853258)

The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)

Germans don't now how to set up parental controls in Windows or OS X? They don't know where to download the proper toolbar or they have no idea what OpenDNS is? What's an average IQ there BTW?

just a punk

03-30-2012 09:39 AM

The country where River Raid was banned for violence?

http://www.meh.ro/original/2009_12/meh.ro563.jpg

Darrell

03-30-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18853413)

How do you add a dynamic warning page that will detect the ip and display a different warning page/language for different countries?

cooldude7

03-30-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 18853598)

How do you add a dynamic warning page that will detect the ip and display a different warning page/language for different countries?

PHP Code:


		
			
<head>

<script src="http://www.geoplugin.net/javascript.gp" type="text/javascript"></script>

<script type="text/javascript">

    switch(geoplugin_countryCode()){

        case "AT" :

            document.location.href = "http://austriatraffic";

            break;

        case "CH" :

            document.location.href = "http://switzerlandtraffic"

            break;

        case "DE" :

            document.location.href = "http://germantraffic"

            break;

        default :

            document.location.href = "http://othertraffic"

            break;

    }

</script>

</head>

Darrell

03-30-2012 11:57 AM

Thanks cooldude7 I'll try that out :thumbsup

globofun

03-30-2012 12:04 PM

I once received a snail mail (registered) letter from them to take down a blog of mine....

Do you believe I could have a warrant for my arrest in the EU?

I'm Canadian and hosted in the US.....

Tom_PM

03-30-2012 12:07 PM

Good idea to make the page for your German visitors. After all, you WANT adults who have credit cards or methods to pay anyway. Best filter them ASAP.

jimmycooper

03-30-2012 01:27 PM

Nippelblitzer FTW!!!

bigluv

03-30-2012 02:32 PM

This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?

Klen	03-30-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18854002)

This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?

Same shit with japan who censor dicks and pussy yet they produce all kind of shit.

anexsia

03-30-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18854036)

Same shit with japan who censor dicks and pussy yet they produce all kind of shit.

So funny, japan and European countries will allow scat and all kinds of crazy shit but censor every thing else...then you have the U.S. who doesn't want scat but will show just about every thing else.

Klen	04-01-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18854042)

Till santorum or romney step into power :winkwink:

OneWhoKnows

04-02-2012 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18854002)

This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?

You have to use a government approved AVS which involves face-to-face age control, meaning the postman rings at your door and you gotta show him a valid form of ID, he approves your age and sends a document back to the AVS.

Then you also have to use an authentication method with some hardware (CD, USB Stick) involved, because your kids could steal your username/password. :pimp

pornmasta

04-02-2012 12:25 AM

you have to respect the rules of Saudi Arabia too...

pornmasta

04-02-2012 12:44 AM

btw where to redirect german people ?

mopek1

04-02-2012 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globofun (Post 18853776)

I once received a snail mail (registered) letter from them to take down a blog of mine....

Do you believe I could have a warrant for my arrest in the EU?

I'm Canadian and hosted in the US.....

Why would they ask you to take it down instead of just putting up an enter page like the thread starter?

Did they say you could get arrested ?

Renzo

04-04-2012 05:28 PM

A landing page will not be enough.
You have to remove all hardcore content in order to be compliant with german laws.

Consequence of not being compliant will be a delisting from google.de.

rowan

04-04-2012 06:16 PM

I've received the emails from Turkey too.

I wonder if they have an ulterior motive for asking for your contact details in order to officially serve you, like putting you on a blacklist so you can't enter the country...

CP_Renato

04-17-2012 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18853375)

Yes, you can and will be blacklisted if you don't make a German landings page according to their rules

It´s not a landingpage.It´s a real adult verification system. You put your name, id card number and more to get your age verified.

Germans got a lot of hardcore sites on google.de index , but ger bureaucracy is far away from fast.in that way they just want to make examples.if this "Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien" get aat least 1 site in half year down from google.de, they have the right to keep on and burn german taxes by removing few porn sites from google.de index.
that´s all.

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