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halfpint 03-28-2012 03:15 PM

Will Brics be the downfall of the US Dollar ?
 
Brics the 5 nations Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa have talked about a new world wide monetary system and a currency to rival the US dollar.

What u think ?

South Africa will this week take some initial steps to unseat the US dollar as the preferred worldwide currency for trade and investment in emerging economies.

Thus, the nation is expected to become party to endorsing the Chinese currency, the renminbi, as the currency of trade in emerging markets.

This means getting a renminbi-denominated bank account, in addition to a dollar account, could be an advantage for African businesses that seek to do business in the emerging markets.

The move is set to challenge the supremacy of the US dollar. This, experts say, is the latest salvo in the greatest worldwide currency war since the 1930s.

In the 30s, several nations competitively devalued their currencies to give their domestic economies an advantage over others.

And this led to a worldwide decline in overall trade volumes at the time.

The north will be pitted against the entire south in a historic competitive currency battle ? whose terrain has moved to the Indian capital New Dehli ? where the Brics (Brazil, Russia, India China and South Africa) nations will assemble next week.

China seeks to find new markets for its currency and to lobby to internationalise it throughout the Brics states.

For China this is not a new game. In 2009, senior Chinese banking officials issued a statement that the international monetary system was flawed owing to an unhealthy dependence on the US dollar and called for a ?super-sovereign? international reserve currency.

More here

http://truthaholics.wordpress.com/ta...netary-system/

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-braz...175634043.html

borked 03-28-2012 03:19 PM

While the majority of oil still trades in the US$, the $ will be supreme.
But still, never underestimate the power of the underdog(s) - these emerging economies (India and China particularly) will soon be a force to be reckoned with on any market.

V_RocKs 03-28-2012 03:19 PM

Not too worried.

Sly 03-28-2012 03:28 PM

How has this worked out for the Euro zone?

Frank21 03-28-2012 03:30 PM

the FED is the destroyer of the US dollar.

halfpint 03-28-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18850367)
While the majority of oil still trades in the US$, the $ will be supreme.
But still, never underestimate the power of the underdog(s) - these emerging economies (India and China particularly) will soon be a force to be reckoned with on any market.

Yes it does but if you notice more and more China and Russia are sticking two fingers up at us...

"BRICS: Not bound by ?unilateral? sanctions on Iran"

http://rt.com/news/brics-iran-us-sanctions-684/


I think China and Russia are kinda fed up with us now lol and just maybe they will pull this off over the comming the years

uno 03-28-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18850368)
Not too worried.

Cue the GFY Brain Trust and NWO talk.

Sly 03-28-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 18850391)
Yes it does but if you notice more and more China and Russia are sticking two fingers up at us...

"BRICS: Not bound by ?unilateral? sanctions on Iran"

http://rt.com/news/brics-iran-us-sanctions-684/


I think China and Russia are kinda fed up with us now lol and just maybe they will pull this off over the comming the years

I don't think China and Russia are anymore fed up with the West than they have been for the last 10-XX years. They will always argue the opposite of what the West argues. It's ingrained into their culture and their people depend on it, like the people of the West depend on being anti-China and anti-Russia.

papill0n 03-28-2012 03:36 PM

no it wont - what a lot of nonsense

Barefootsies 03-28-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 18850395)
Cue the GFY Brain Trust and NWO talk.

Canadian Illuminati.

:2 cents:

DWB 03-28-2012 04:12 PM

China, Russia, Brazil, India.... those are big boys. Just so happens those are some of the biggest buyers of precious metals right now too, especially gold.

Here is the deal. Everyone is going to say it will never happen and the USD will be god until the end of time, but in reality, and beyond the reach of the old rich American men who will try to stop it, the fact of the matter is these large emerging nations all can see the demise of the USA in the future. Stevie Wonder can see it coming. They are stupid to not have their ducks in a row when that eventuality happens. The USD is the world currency right now, but it won't be forever. You can count on that.

Face the facts, the USA had a great run. Every great nation before it also had a great run. If history teaches us nothing else, it is that EVERY empire eventually falls. There are no exceptions to the rule. And with the incredible amount of debt the USA has doubled with doomed global fiat currency, there is but one ending to this story and it's not a happy one for Americans. There is no other way to put it.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/w...hart_20101.gif

Good luck with that.

WiredGuy 03-28-2012 04:23 PM

I think Greece has demonstrated quite well on what happens when you have a consolidated currency with multiple countries. I can't see China or Russia ever being on board for something like this, they have nearly nothing to gain and everything to lose.
WG

DWB 03-28-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 18850539)
I think Greece has demonstrated quite well on what happens when you have a consolidated currency with multiple countries. I can't see China or Russia ever being on board for something like this, they have nearly nothing to gain and everything to lose.
WG

Can't have no scrubs. :upsidedow

I have no doubt some countries may TRY to do something new, but unless the currency is actually worth something, it won't stand long term. I'm sure many nations are trying to find or will in the future, alternatives to the dollar.

2012 03-28-2012 04:32 PM

everything is great. don't worry about anything :2 cents: go shopping !

wehateporn 03-28-2012 06:26 PM

Maybe they'll be more successful than the last person who tried to unseat the US $

ninavain 03-28-2012 06:39 PM

organized plan to bring it all down and introduce the NWO currency

ottopottomouse 03-29-2012 02:44 AM

China is busy harvesting everything they can out of africa. Makes sense to try and do it in their own currency.

georgeyw 03-29-2012 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 18850539)
I think Greece has demonstrated quite well on what happens when you have a consolidated currency with multiple countries. I can't see China or Russia ever being on board for something like this, they have nearly nothing to gain and everything to lose.
WG

Was thinking the same.

Also both China and Russia are very much out for themselves and would have a real hard time *sharing* anything.

There is a need for something to be done as the USD is only getting worse :mad:

Coup 03-29-2012 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 18850395)
Cue the GFY Brain Trust and NWO talk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18850719)
organized plan to bring it all down and introduce the NWO currency

And so it begins..


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

arock10 03-29-2012 03:59 AM

China needs to liberalize the fuck out of the currency before it has any hope of worldwide useage

DWB 03-29-2012 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 18850549)
everything is great. don't worry about anything :2 cents: go shopping !

That's what I'm talking about. I'm gonna hit the mall and max out my credit cards.

DamageX 03-29-2012 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18850367)
these emerging economies (India and China particularly) will soon be a force to be reckoned with on any market.

Soon? How about yesterday?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18850385)
How has this worked out for the Euro zone?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 18850539)
I think Greece has demonstrated quite well on what happens when you have a consolidated currency with multiple countries.

They're not planning on phasing out their own currencies and replace them with another. They just want to define a new reserve currency which, currently, can be backed by more than a printing press owned by the FED.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18851276)
China needs to liberalize the fuck out of the currency before it has any hope of worldwide useage

Yes and no. While their currency is admittedly undervalued, it's also backed by some serious assets and surpluses. Compare that with the "liberalized" (yeah, right) USD, which has pretty much no backing nowadays, and the renminbi wins hands down.

Paul 03-29-2012 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18850515)
China, Russia, Brazil, India.... those are big boys. Just so happens those are some of the biggest buyers of precious metals right now too, especially gold.

Here is the deal. Everyone is going to say it will never happen and the USD will be god until the end of time, but in reality, and beyond the reach of the old rich American men who will try to stop it, the fact of the matter is these large emerging nations all can see the demise of the USA in the future. Stevie Wonder can see it coming. They are stupid to not have their ducks in a row when that eventuality happens. The USD is the world currency right now, but it won't be forever. You can count on that.

Face the facts, the USA had a great run. Every great nation before it also had a great run. If history teaches us nothing else, it is that EVERY empire eventually falls. There are no exceptions to the rule. And with the incredible amount of debt the USA has doubled with doomed global fiat currency, there is but one ending to this story and it's not a happy one for Americans. There is no other way to put it.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/w...hart_20101.gif

Good luck with that.

Excellent post, I completely agree.

One thing is for sure though, The USA will not go down without a fight. My guess is when American finally default on their debt it'll be the start of World War III and I would not bet against American in that scenario :2 cents:

slapass 03-29-2012 06:07 AM

The US dollar being the world currency hurts our exports. The US is a super cheap place to live. If our currency got beat up, we would sell more abroad.

Dirty F 03-29-2012 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 18850549)
everything is great. don't worry about anything :2 cents: go shopping !

Your sig is too big. I'm going to report it.

pimpmaster9000 03-29-2012 06:40 AM

They want to do what the US has been doing for decades= exporting their inflation....

You see everybody wants the US$...if the USA wants oil all it has to do is print a fuck load of pertodollars and viola! you have cheap oil! Your economy prospers! + the fact that global oil trade is dictated exclusively by a currency that belongs to only 5% of the population brings an unfair advantage to the US$ against all other currencies and economies ...

Time for russia/china/India to catch up :2 cents:

pornguy 03-29-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 18850539)
I think Greece has demonstrated quite well on what happens when you have a consolidated currency with multiple countries. I can't see China or Russia ever being on board for something like this, they have nearly nothing to gain and everything to lose.
WG

the only way for something like this to work is every country on the planet adopt the same currency, and that wont happen because it will but an ass load of people out of work.

Supz 03-29-2012 07:21 AM

after this, bitcoins to be made worldwide currency.

arock10 03-29-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18851305)
Soon? How about yesterday?





They're not planning on phasing out their own currencies and replace them with another. They just want to define a new reserve currency which, currently, can be backed by more than a printing press owned by the FED.



Yes and no. While their currency is admittedly undervalued, it's also backed by some serious assets and surpluses. Compare that with the "liberalized" (yeah, right) USD, which has pretty much no backing nowadays, and the renminbi wins hands down.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renminbi#section_5

Phoenix 03-29-2012 07:31 AM

i have a bunch of RMB in my pocket right now

i wonder how useful it is at even a bank here

ajrocks 03-29-2012 08:04 AM

just a matter of time. !

grumpy 03-29-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 18850367)
While the majority of oil still trades in the US$, the $ will be supreme.
But still, never underestimate the power of the underdog(s) - these emerging economies (India and China particularly) will soon be a force to be reckoned with on any market.



funny, a force to be recon with, emerging market, underdog. You are so high on your chair its not even funny.


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