What are your Javbucks looking like? Here's mine:
 

5,807 raw hits
24 join submits - 0 sales.

This is not a bashing thread. I mean 6k hits 0 sales. Shit happens. It's too early to make conclusions. But what worries me is the 24 join submits. I know surfers sometimes fill in bogus info etc but really, 24 submits and not 1 went through?

Oops, forgot "conversions" in the topic title.

I've seen others post horrible stats on another board.

is this that one program that everyone was hyping up?

I have had more than 24 submits with no sale

Well i never care about new program hypes but their sites simply looked very good and i figured they might convert very well.
The bad ratio can be a number of things.
I just don't understand those join submits.

Really? Did you get sales at all?

Did they post join submit stats?

Tried their JAV HD and couldn't convert them either. :( I have come to the conclusion that people do not want to join a sophisticated porn site. It does not matter what it looks like, what matters is the content and how you sent them.

Also noticed that the "submits" count is pretty much useless, sometimes I have 100 submits per join, next week 20 submits per join, another program 3 submits per join, etc.. and similar overall conversions on each. I think hentai lovers just like to try getting in for free a lot.

Yeah, their sites do look pretty good. I promote a lot of sites that have great content and look good...and end up converting like crap :Oh crap

It sounds like they may be join page hits rather than submits. They just have the column title wrong possibly....

Just a guess though.

Franck submits are deceiving because they depend on how the websites are setup. For example some sites you have to enter in a username, e-mail, password etc just to see what the prices are. Those count as "submits" but the person was just trying to find out the price. It doesn't necessarily mean they even entered in their CC info.

got a sale with them already

You know say Daddy Snow me, I'm gonna blame

I see. Thanks.

Thats some funny shit...:thumbsup

Join submits are the amount of submits TO the joinpage (creditcard form).

Usually they fill out the user/pass/email on the pre-join form and then get forwarded to the payment processor. This is a join submit. It's not the amount of people that fill out their cc info.

It's very normal to have tons of join submits without sales.

However I agree the 0:5K signup ratio sucks.

I understood it wrong then. My bad.
Hey, i'm only in this business for 11 years, so mistakes like this happen.

I just added some links a few days ago on two "japan" blogs. I only get SE traffic there, btw. About 1100 raw, 127 join hits, 7 submits and no sales. But, the traffic is tooooo low to really make an conclusion. When I get back "in office", I will post more and try to get some other traffic as well.

I posted about this on asianwebbies already...... depressing to see the stats on this new program so far :(

What did you post?

WEll, i posted my shitty stats and a few other ppl did too :Oh crap

How shitty were they?

I really can't find a reason why this wouldn't convert well.

Their join options and pricing structures are way too confusing. Porn users want (need) simple.

if it had a normal pricing structure, $1 trial and 29.95 monthly it would work a lot better.

Their join page is way to confusing and has way too many options. This is too advanced for the average porn surfer.

Also it seems a lot of their join pages are configured wrong in Nats. I am not able to join at all. See below some screenshots of I saw when I just checked out the site and clicked the join links:


http://i.imgur.com/W7wdv.png

http://i.imgur.com/48SqU.png

Well fuck me, people can't even fucking join??

And you might be right about the pricing structure. Just way too complicated for someone who's holding his penis in his hand.

yeah, it's really stupid, I guess they want people to take multiple month memberships, but 99% of the porn surfers doesn't want that. Also it pretty much looks like if you want the full site you have to chose the $189.95 or $335.95 option. There is no other way to get access to all features...

those high amounts displayed there and the complicated pricing structure will scare a lot of people away.

These people might know how to make a fancy site, but they have no clue how to make a site convert. They are doing it totally wrong.

Their English sucks as well. Mine is not perfect either, but things like this on the join page don't make any sense:

"View the our tariff plans and make your decision"

and then one of the membership option is called "Standart"

1,074 677 113 3 0 $0.00 0:677

yeah weird join form. the 1 and 39.99 options are greyed out pushing to 335.95 which to your average surfer would seem insane for a paysite. no wonder no one joins.

too bad the content looks great :2 cents:

so I guess the crazy pricing structure is not going to change? Im not counting on any sales with the way it is now.

Hi,

It's Javbucks team here. Sorry to hear you've been having problems with your traffic on our site. Please contact me directly raidon (at) javbucks (dot) com with your username and I will get one of our team to look into your account. Obviously we are disappointed anyone would be getting 0:3k, and would like to work with you to try and figure out what is happening. Maybe it's the traffic, maybe something is set up wrong, maybe your ads aren't quite right? Could be lots of things? I would love to help you get that sort of conversion.

Thanks
JavBucks