Anyone making those $269 signups at imlive.com?
 

and at which ratio?

just asking...

the cake is a lie

I just had 12 or so.
Not really pushing them.

i had 2 of those $100pps last month without promoting them too much.

this month i am at ~0:9000....

i have some really nice serps for them, i have niche targetted iframes on my niche targetted sites, i dont know where else to get better traffic, still one sale per year maybe. not pushing cams anymore, wasted time ... :2 cents: but have idea in my head, that must work, if not that nothing else, but time is missing ... :) have luck everyone! :thumbsup

We all are!

just as i thought...

I'll start thinking like this: if I ever start a cam site, I'll offer 888$ or 999$ PPS for affiliates.

1., They'll jump on it like crazy
2., I'll shave them anyways (as everyone else more or less does)
3., They wont convert anyways (so I don't even need to shave)

Sounds like a plan to me :thumbsup

Ok, did anybody have at least 1 sale?

I'm weary of anyone offering high payouts like this. Even for the ones who offered the tiered scales based on how much you send where the PPS rate doubles or triples.

I'm not saying it is working this way in this case but the way I suspect the high PPS programs for whales work is:

1. Offer your top 10% by volume $100 PPS
2. Shave your bottom 90% by 65% or more at $35 PPS in order to pay the top 10% more.

So I avoid anyone with radical PPS shifts at the top especially if I'm not sure I am going to be a top 10% affiliate with them.

Lots of people say shaving doesn't happen but a quick google search and a search here of posts from the old days will show you otherwise. You have programmers openly admitting that 9/10 of their clients asked for shave modules as one of the first requests. You even have a software provider who posted here linking to an admin interface and documentation which openly showed that it had shave capabilities. You'll find story after story of people meeting an unamed bro who told them "everybody does it". You do the math.

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you have to make first 2 sales at $100pps and then 3rd one is $269, i wouldn't mind if it would be $30pps if the sale would actually occur...

On the other end of the spectrum, anyone pushing itaboo for fitty cent free joins?

I got a sale the other day for $75 but I dont push cams much.

why bother? the guy who gets you that pps might spend thousands over a year on revshare. stupid.

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With my itaboo ratio, those 9000 imlive hits would have net you approximately $1431.8181818181.

I use white label so 35% ;)

:2 cents: Imlive is a lot harder to convert since it already has so many members, has been around a long time so basically it is already a "famous" site to many people.. that is why it converts a lot harder and therefor PPS is a lot higher... that of course doesn't mean it is impossible

Nothing.

who is better to push? not so saturated?

see sig... camsense or webcamwiz IMO

there are a lot of other (good) cam sites that are not so saturated of course.. but with these 2 I personally have very good experiences

or try smut cams with the free $20- credits for new members and go PPS... that is a good offer :thumbsup

why did I use my ref link for smut cams when ARS says on their site: "Impressions and clicks will not be counted on the following domains (no webmaster payout):
-- GoFuckYourself.com"

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After sending lots of traffic, I came to the conclusion that the whole business of cams is full of shit...

0:15,000 ratios on every sponsor I tried when the same traffic converts at 1:300 with niche paysites...

And don't say it.. I mean, saying that my traffic is only for paysites and not for cams is quite stupid. Been in this business 10 years and I know what Im talking about...

The problem are the cam sponsors, not my traffic.

Tried selling any product, and all converted, drugstore, toys, etc... not the same ratio as niche paysite, but also not a big SCAM like 0:15,000, who the fuck are they trying to fool? come on...

I don't know why your ratio is 0:15000 ... ours is average I think about 1:100 I don't have tons of traffic but I have targeted traffic and it works...
It is not a scam... there is a reason that cam sites / models/ affiliates make a lot of money... because their viewers spend a lot :winkwink:

You're 100% correct. Tried them too.

they can offer that pps because once people do sign up they can spend a small fortune over a long period of time.

pps makes THEM more money in end. no reason for them to shave.

if there is going to be a shave happening they are going to do it on the guy spending thousands a month every month and you getting 20% of that for eternity.

i got one previously.

And why don't you explain what you do?

Anyone can say anything, it's free... But argumenting is not that easy, in case you are genuine and 100% clean...

What webcam key phrases do you rank for?

got zero :-(

i did . They then emailed me saying they were putting me back at $100 pps
I guess they didn't rebill like they wanted to... i must have missed the TOS on that one..

so it's a known and proven fact that cam companies shave the majority of their affiliates, yet a lot of people promote and swear by cams however there is a significant number of them who complain how they get no sales?

i moved on and promoting revshare only...

Can't speak for camsites, but Those were the old days, nowadays sponsors would rather add sales than remove them. When shit was converting like 1:100 sponsors were shaving like mofos and affiliates didn't give a shit or notice for the most part since the ratios were so sweet.

How you gonna shave the typical affiliate now doing 1:5k, his ratios will be so shitty they'll pull the traffic.


Now the high end PPS deals for cam sites are: Your member has to signup jump down and pick a bail of cotton before "qualifying" as the $269 sale.

Most PPS paysite programs just add double blind x sales, middle page xsale and cancel page x sales.

Paysite programs like mine... I simply take members' area upgrades rev and then build up a bonus fund and use that to award good affiliates and I simply count the rest as advertising expense to get new affiliates so I take a loss.

Oh, I wish...

Gazillions.

good guy gleem.

I have a few blogs :thumbsup

I choose a (micro) niche, find a matching niche cam domain and blog away... sometimes I get ranked very high (1-3).. sometimes not

I think this needs a placement for all the non haters :)

Why would he tell you how he makes his cam sales? Doesnt make much sense business wise now would it ;)

indeed... but I will say it helps if you are in the top 3 with a few phrases :winkwink:

I have a few blogs too...

So?...

Why are you converting at 1:100 and I get 0:15,000 ?

Do you talk to the sponsor owner to tell him to not shave you?

This is not quantum physics.

why do you try to look misterious? Do you enjoy that situation?

i can make sales almost on any paysite, just not cams ... :helpme

What webcam key phrases do you rank for?

bajesus.

but do you really have to rank for live sex cams on first page of google to make sales with cams?

I have 6 credit cards and make a trial signup every day with each one :1orglaugh

Last month was ok but this month is very bad not good conversion

It's also depend on your target how much is set in your account to earn 269