Police can now search your mobile phone without a warrant
 

But hey, it's limited, right? :winkwink: How bad can it get? We have to trade some freedom for SECURITY, right? :helpme

http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/01/wa...-phone-search/

Without security, we can't have freedom. We need Big Brother to tell us what we need. Absolute Power Liberates Absolutely! In Gov We Trust!

All Hail the Government. We exist only because of the Collective. Freedom can only come from total and utter slavery to the Will of the Collective.:Oh crap

Good old USA is becoming police state.!

Just make a scrambler app if you ever get stop and have time, click on app and police can't see shit.

The cops have got to be able to...catch you when you call your cocaine dealer or pot dealer...er, I mean stop terrorism by taking away all of your privacy.

time to look for a blackberry security program

lol

Gotta give them something to do when they're not shutting down lemonade stands

I really believe that if you have nothing to hide, you have no worries. Police can search my phone at will. All they'll find is text messages from my wife asking me what kind of fast food she wants me to bring home.

Fast food? Michelle Obama isn't going to like that one bit. I would be concerned. You better look for that scrambler program.

I don't know...I don't think it's any of the govt.'s business what is on your phone, or in your pocket, or what you read, or what you watch or think or have in your home.

I don't have a damn thing to "hide", but it really, really pisses me off to have a fucking cop talk to me like I'm a child and command me to obey him and give up every bit of privacy.

But I guess our society is starting to get used to it. First they made it legal for cops to search our cars back in the 1980's. And ever since then it's just creeped up more and more...so now people that don't remember what freedom feels like, just think it's "normal" to have to piss in a cup at their work, or have cops search them, or have TSA at the airport search them.

My guess is that George Washington or Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have put up with that kind of thing. It's definitely not the country I grew up in anymore in terms of freedom and liberty.

they hate us for our freedom !

No and they would have most likely had a very eloquent way of insulting those who would not understand that they fought a revolution so we could have freedom and to give it away like that pisses on that sacrifice our founding fathers made.

an eloquent insult is not enough.

My guess is they would have found a rope and the nearest tree and started hanging politicians for treason who made these kind of laws.

Are hoping to find an Ak47 in my Droid?

when we get chips under our skin, they can blow you out in 1 click

so how would it work if the phone is password protected?

Remember this next time you text a affiliate program looking for your money.

They already have the GPS coordinates of your front door thanks to the census workers. :thumbsup

I guess no one can read. The court did not rule that police could search the contents of a mobile phone.

What happens if my iPhone has a security code which I "forgot" as I got pulled over?

i hope that does not come here

Give it to them or be tazed or beaten

So opt in yourself, leave the rest of us alone.

The problem is that things change that we can't forsee, and suddenly the things that were once commonplace could be outlawed. Imagine the US decided the public can't own guns anymore, and a half a million people stand up and say I'm not giving you my gun. The police start going door to door doing gun searches, and people fight back, martial law is ordered, etc. Cops are getting shot. Suddenly you might have something to hide, because something you think is your right is taken away. You might look back and wonder why you gave away your rights, because you couldn't predict the future.

http://www.mcsira.com/WEB/8888/NSF/W..._Userguide.pdf

http://www.suite400magazine.com/wp-c...04/6503549.jpg

Why don't you volunteer to let the govt put cameras up throughout your home? You've got nothing to hide.

after having items seized by a search warrant due to a dirty cop in the past, I totally disagree.

I had nothing to hide. They took equipment that I had to replace while they investigated a crime at a next door business and that seizure cost me a lot of money. I filed for damages, it was a total scam. I had to file for total amount within 30 days of seizure to get covered for lost equipment, but the equipment was seized for almost 2 months. I didn't know total costs till after 2 months for the replacement rental equipment, but when I initially filed (after 2 weeks and within time frame), I was told I had to wait and to submit final bills when I got them. My claim was denied on the basis of being filed too late even though I had proof of initially filing within the time frame.

Turns out the warrant was bad. The cop lied on the application to get the warrant. now I'll always demand to see the application for search warrant before allowing entry, to ensure correct facts were given to the judge. Trust police, never again. EVER. Even if I have nothing to hide.

It was just ruled this week that they can not force you to unlock an encrypted HDD. Not sure how that would apply to a locked smartphone.

I really want to jump on the bandwagon here. As a teenager I was known for telling cops "yes, I DO mind if you take a look there. I need to get going, so am I under arrest, or am I free to go?" Yet, Squealer is right on the facts:

The court ruled that cops can NOT search the phone, they can ONLY get the phone number. We can probably still find reasons to disagree with the ruling, but he's right - the headline is definitely misleading.

Invasion of Privacy is all i see

Time to delete all the Al Queda members, drug dealers and CP hookups from my contact list.

Oh no wait, I live in Crapan, where the police do what the fuck they want anyway. Nevermind. :2 cents:

These devices or something simular are being used in my country (Finland).
They are typicly pulled out when a kid is caught with a joint and they want to know where he bought his weed from.

Last week a cop was trying to get into a friends iphone and my friend told him he forgot the password. The cop kept saying how they have a 'program' in their car that can get into the phone regardless and my friend just kept calling his bluff and telling him to go do it. Eventually the cop just got pissed off and handed him his phone back. Fuck the police.

That's pretty much insane........I'm replacing my iPhone with a walkman and using pay phones. I have no issues at all with the police force, but at some point that is sort of ridiculous.

that's fucked up......

Why bother to read and let the facts get in the way of some GFY righteous outrage?

:2 cents::2 cents:

Exactly.

Does that include the real thing, pictures of and information about these items? Dead bodies, CP, abused children, cocaine, heroin, a drug factory, stolen good, Nuclear bombs, pirated content, etc?

for someone who argues for stronger laws in one thread, then argues against them in another I seriously wonder if you're fully thinking this through.

Unless you were a slave as the freedom laws didn't apply to them. They were owned and no one was taking the freedom to own slaves away from anyone.

In fact when did they need a search warrant to enter someones house and search it. Or go through the pockets of a suspected criminal? I'm pretty sure if in their time they suspected a man of spying for the English they didn't go looking for a search warrant before going through his pockets.

The situation has always been the same. What is reasonable?

Is it reasonable to search phones found on the scene of a drug bust?

If a child is suspected by neighbors of being abused, is it reasonable for the police to intervene. Or best to wait until it might be too late?

Like all laws, the problem is in the application of them. Doesn't mean do away with laws.

and because of naive people like you, it makes it much easier for the government to push more and more of these kind of privacy violations down the peoples throats. Maybe the next step is being able to search anyones house without a warrant. You've probably got nothing to hide, so you won't care when they go through all your personal stuff?

Wake up and see the big picture!

Crazy government - looking up recent calls at the scene of a drug bust! Who cares if a bunch of drug trafficking, gang banging murderers get away. Whats next? They going to require you to be licensed to drive a car? Maybe tell you have fast you can drive? Where to stop? When to stop? When to go? Maybe they'll go really far and tell you that you can't drive while being totally shitfaced drunk? Insane. Slippery slope.

When are you guys going to stand up to big brother and the evil religious right already.

I've had a cop push open my door when I answered it, and threaten to cuff me and search my house (without any warrants). And I was ready to deal with him nice and resolve the issue, it was not even necessary. I've never been so disturbed in my life and will never, ever trust another cop as long as I live thanks to that asshole. When he left he made sure to point at my red vehicle and tell us he knows where we live now and what we drive, and we better hope he never sees us again anywhere...

I don't think anyone becomes a cop because they want to help society. Not a single fucking one.

yeah, its amazing what GFY people don't comprehend.
Cop is on a drug bust. criminal has a pre paid cell phone in his pocket. This ruling allows the cops to identify the phone.
no different than if the criminal had a gun and the cop looked at the serial number.

cop comes up to me and says,"I want to see your cell phone." I tell him to fuck off.
I can do that because I'm not a drug dealer.

I hope to see this on the next episode of COPS. :1orglaugh

I bet a cop would be really nice to you if you did that. ha ha

the answer is simple.

If they need a warrant to get phone records, and call history - they should have to to search private messages. Its pretty simple. The reason they say they need search phones is because people might "delete conversations" - yet if they get search warrant and get records they see it all, they are distorting truth to get more invasion of privacy.

Founding fathers turning over in their graves

I believe they just created a law or a judge ruled that if you have any thing encrypted or password protected and the law enforcement agents have the legal right to search, you MUST give them the password.

So now that the cops can search your phone "legally" without a warrant you have to give them the password. :321GFY

You know how many of these pervs are now going to be searching ever hot girls phone hoping to find self shots?