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SmutHammer 03-01-2012 03:32 PM

LilCandy Review from the Rabbit
 
http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/s9991/Lil-Candy.html

Can you tell me if something just doesn't seem right here?

Content Quality 15/15
Usability 9/10
Updates 5/10
Content Amount 7/15
Value 8/10
Unique Content 15/15
Video Downloads 5/5
Video Streaming 5/5
Features 4/5
Other Score 2/10

overall score 75 out of 100


Even though it's a solo site, it is scored the same as "super sites" for amount of content and updates.

Photo sets no longer count as updates, Only video updates count.

Other score = based on the reviewer’s discretion. really has nothing to do with features or facts.

DWB 03-01-2012 04:05 PM

Most reviews don't make sense.

Rabbits is one of those who is caught up in the bit rate of video encoding instead of the actual quality of the video. Their system assumes everyone uses the same methods and software to encode, which is not true. That part of their review process is totally garbage.

If anyone from Rabbit reads this thread: A higher bit rate does not always mean better quality.

"15 points: 8000+k video encoding" That is so funny. I can (as can many others) encode a video at 1/2 that bit rate that will probably look better than the 8000k one. But we'd get a lower point for doing so. Not to mention those kind of rates are too large for most people to stream so they have to be for download only. Another factor they don't take into consideration.

Rochard 03-01-2012 04:08 PM

They are trying to sell a product. They can't say it's a shitty project. So they lie.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 03-01-2012 04:18 PM

It's not a shitty product, though. It's a good site with interaction and live shows.

Dirty D 03-01-2012 04:37 PM

Don't sweat it...

Review sites are a very small percentage of traffic and sales.
The review sites are good at educating the surfers to find the lowest price and to cancel immediately (at all of our expense.)

Cherry7 03-01-2012 04:50 PM

They also give some shitty sites very high scores and put them on their front pages while other sites are hidden in their website with lower scores for navigation or other bogus reasons.

I raised the issue of bit rates being only one of lots of factors that effect quality, they just ignore the reasons.


It is a shame there is not a real review site that finds good material and promotes it, not just support the same big players.

Cherry7 03-01-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18794591)
http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/s9991/Lil-Candy.html

Can you tell me if something just doesn't seem right here?

Content Quality 15/15
Usability 9/10
Updates 5/10
Content Amount 7/15
Value 8/10
Unique Content 15/15
Video Downloads 5/5
Video Streaming 5/5
Features 4/5
Other Score 2/10

overall score 75 out of 100


Even though it's a solo site, it is scored the same as "super sites" for amount of content and updates.

Photo sets no longer count as updates, Only video updates count.

Other score = based on the reviewer?s discretion. really has nothing to do with features or facts.

I doesn't make sense from being to end...

Content quality 15/15 means that it is perfect (to me that would mean shot as well as HBO drama )

But then only 7/15 for content amount , but what does this mean ? that is is too expensive for the amount of material here? But NO Value is 8/10 so it is good value for money. Its all nonsense.

The idea is to lower the score so that it does not appear in the top positions, one can assume there is a reason they want to send 90% of their traffic to the same mediocre sites.

lucas131 03-01-2012 04:58 PM

you know, i just started my first review site, where i wanted to be serious, but seriously, will you waste time and write review to a shitty site? me sure not :)

SmutHammer 03-01-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 18794943)
It's not a shitty product, though. It's a good site with interaction and live shows.

Thank you, :)


I probably should have just dropped it and not made this thread, It just bothers me that picture sets are not counted as updates, and even though there are many extra's it scores a 2 out of 10 on other. Rabbits was the first to go in and update the review. If any other review sites want a password to update their info send me a email or ICQ

ICQ # 643559132

mikesouth 03-01-2012 06:19 PM

Pay ZERO attention to the review sites, they are just wankers looking for free content to jerk to. The reviews are meaningless and Rabbit is one of the worst. Dont submit your site for review and they go away...

Ayla_SquareTurtle 03-01-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18795264)
Thank you, :)


I probably should have just dropped it and not made this thread, It just bothers me that picture sets are not counted as updates, and even though there are many extra's it scores a 2 out of 10 on other. Rabbits was the first to go in and update the review. If any other review sites want a password to update their info send me a email or ICQ

ICQ # 643559132

I have reviewed your site before and I think you should ignore the advice to ignore review sites. A lot of review site reading surfers LOVE sites like Candy's.

gleem 03-01-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 18795080)
Don't sweat it...

Review sites are a very small percentage of traffic and sales.
The review sites are good at educating the surfers to find the lowest price and to cancel immediately (at all of our expense.)

I dunno, when I get reviews from Rabbit or TheBestPorn I tend to do 10 to 30 sales as long as the score is above 75. I think it's enough of a sales boom to pay attention to.

SmutHammer 03-01-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18795277)
Pay ZERO attention to the review sites, they are just wankers looking for free content to jerk to. The reviews are meaningless and Rabbit is one of the worst. Dont submit your site for review and they go away...

I appreciate all of my affiliates and try to have the best relationship possible with all of them, that's why I feel a bit guilty about making this thread. but I do expect to be treated fairly.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 18795287)
I have reviewed your site before and I think you should ignore the advice to ignore review sites. A lot of review site reading surfers LOVE sites like Candy's.

I remember talking to you, Let me know if you would like to update :) we are changing the positioning of our review links, and may add a section to the tour "what review sites have said" of corse their will not be link leaks from the tour, but we will give names.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18795300)
I dunno, when I get reviews from Rabbit or TheBestPorn I tend to do 10 to 30 sales as long as the score is above 75. I think it's enough of a sales boom to pay attention to.

I get sales, I'm sure there would be many more if it wasn't for the bs 2 out of 10 score.
and ratios are very good from review sites.

DVTimes 03-01-2012 07:52 PM

looks good.

she seems to have a big pussy.

www.lilcandycash.com

DVTimes 03-01-2012 08:01 PM

Do not worry about the review sites.

Just keep pushing her, as I think she is hot.

http://www.lilcandy.com/hosted/FHG_webcam/images/12.jpg

www.lilcandycash.com

Jacob[Soft] 03-01-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18795404)
Do not worry about the review sites.

Just keep pushing her, as I think she is hot.

http://www.lilcandy.com/hosted/FHG_webcam/images/12.jpg

www.lilcandycash.com

:thumbsup:thumbsup

DWB 03-02-2012 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18795312)
...that's why I feel a bit guilty about making this thread. but I do expect to be treated fairly.

Then make a deal with them like all the top placed sites do. Many of the review sites are on the take and will work something out with you.

Otherwise, you get jacked numbers that don't mean much of anything regardless of how great your site is.

I agree 100% with another poster above, this is all you need to see and it should land you a damn perfect score:

Content Quality 15/15
Usability 9/10

</review>

Then they jacked you with "other score."

But don't feel bad, I actually had one of the larger review sites say in their review that they question if I obtained my content legally or not. Yes, really. I flipped out. They don't even call out the sites that are 100% stolen content and obvious, but they said that about a site that is 100% exclusive. They later removed the comment after I blew a gasket. That just goes to show the type of wankers who write for some of these sites.

Don't get too caught up in the numbers, you'll get sales either way. If a guy likes you're site, he'll join it. The urge to orgasm supersedes logic, common sense, or a review number.

Cherry7 03-02-2012 04:27 AM

The traffic is good the amount is poor, unless you are on the front page....

Review sites, lets us know the deals you get from those piss poor sites on your front page lets see if we can't match their deals.

SmutHammer 03-02-2012 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18795383)
looks good.

she seems to have a big pussy.

www.lilcandycash.com

Thanks,

That's the first time I have heard someone say Candy has a big pussy....lol

DVTimes 03-02-2012 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18796672)
Thanks,

That's the first time I have heard someone say Candy has a big pussy....lol

If I was you I would not care what such sites say.

Just consentrate on the sites.

DWB 03-02-2012 07:31 AM

Ed Hammer, where are you from in Kentucky?

SmutHammer 03-02-2012 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18796721)
Ed Hammer, where are you from in Kentucky?

Are you in Ky? I live in Lexington, But not from here, I'm from Pa.

Kenny B! 03-02-2012 08:47 AM

I'm surprised to hear that you pay site owners don't like review traffic. We get consistent sales from rabbit's and TBP, for most of our sites, sure the higher ranked sites make more frequent sales but even the old lousy ones get sales.

I admit I don't get the rating methods some of them use and I don't know how objective someone can me when reviewing a diaper site if they aren't into that fetish and their personal take is worth 10% of the score.

All and all review sites make us way more $ than they cost us, so I'm all for them.

Doug of Montreal 03-02-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18794591)
http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/s9991/Lil-Candy.html

overall score 75 out of 100

Even though it's a solo site, it is scored the same as "super sites" for amount of content and updates.

Photo sets no longer count as updates, Only video updates count.

Other score = based on the reviewer’s discretion. really has nothing to do with features or facts.

I've been away for a month but our editor forwarded me your emails when I came back to work yesterday. I actually drafted a response last night to your email but wanted to send it this morning when I could see straight. Jet lag's a fun party. ;)

Before I get into it, let me start by saying that our scoring system as should not be looked at like a mark you get on a test, where a 70 may be considered unacceptable with the amount and quality of work a webmaster puts into their site. We are having issues with a number of webmasters who are seeing their scores drop and I can appreciate how they may feel without understanding why it’s happening. I can’t emphasize this enough: you need to look at our current criteria as a ranking system, not a grading system.

We changed our criteria back in the fall to account for changes in the industry. We took out scores like design (10 points) and navigation (10 points) which were incredibly hard to explain how they were calculated and replaced them with the usability score. If you read our criteria you can now basically figure out your score in all categories save for the “other” score. It’s about the most transparent scoring system of any of the major review sites. I can see us moving to a less conventional scoring system in the future, one that is not out of 100 and allows for the growth of sites that continues. It was our mistake to not do that this time around, I think, but it’s not easy to make big changes.

As for the other score, I can understand your issue with it. We could go completely to a system that just rates features and leaves out certain things that are just hard to explain when it comes to comparing reviews but so far it’s our experience that there is a need for a reviewer’s personal input. However, we reduced this score from 20 to 10 points to lessen the impact on reviews when we change our criteria. It may not be perfect, but it was certainly a step in the right direction.

Scoring your sites with the same system we use to score megasites with may seem a little strange but I) I would guess the largest segment of the the public is interested in spending the least amount of money for the most, which is where megasites come in, and II) those experienced enough to know what they want (ie. solo babe content) will be able to find their way to that category and have the common sense to buy whatever babe they think will get them off.

And one other thing to consider: we have about 6,000 sites listed so it will take quite some time to get the new rankings properly figured out. As an example, in the solo model cat, only one site that's ranked higher than LilCandy has been updated with the new criteria. There are no promises, but it would be my guess you'll see a gain in position within the category as more and more are updated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18794802)
If anyone from Rabbit reads this thread: A higher bit rate does not always mean better quality.

We get that. However, it's a good general indication of video quality and at least it's (usually) easily measurable. There is some value there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18794835)
They are trying to sell a product. They can't say it's a shitty project. So they lie.

You clearly haven't read many of our reviews, but thanks for the input ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 18794943)
It's not a shitty product, though. It's a good site with interaction and live shows.

Yes, it's a great site. We say as much in the review. Readers just want to know that they aren't going to get screwed over. That's why good review sites have value and continue to push good traffic to (non-shitty) sites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 18795080)
The review sites are good at educating the surfers to find the lowest price and to cancel immediately (at all of our expense.)

That's not the case with all programs/sites. Just some. But this much you know ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18795277)
Pay ZERO attention to the review sites, they are just wankers looking for free content to jerk to. The reviews are meaningless and Rabbit is one of the worst. Dont submit your site for review and they go away...

No offence Mike, but you have no idea who we are and what we do. You've never been to our offices, we've never spoken and you are clearly out of your depth. It's helpful to contribute when you know what you're on about ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18795911)
Don't get too caught up in the numbers, you'll get sales either way. If a guy likes you're site, he'll join it. The urge to orgasm supersedes logic, common sense, or a review number.

Exactly ;) Just make sure the numbers don't lie. Every reviewer makes mistakes. We are happy to fix any errors we have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 18796938)
I admit I don't get the rating methods some of them use and I don't know how objective someone can me when reviewing a diaper site if they aren't into that fetish and their personal take is worth 10% of the score.

Since our reviewers are all in-house, we try and have them specialize in certain niches to help with this. If anyone has an issue and doesn't think they are getting a fair shake, we are happy to discuss it and reassign the review if need be.

CIVMatt 03-02-2012 09:06 AM

Holy SHIT she has fattened up! wow

SmutHammer 03-02-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 18796974)
Holy SHIT she has fattened up! wow

Your Right!!! OMFG she isn't 18 anymore and no longer 84 lbs. with bones sticking out everywhere, WTF is she still doing porn for?!?!?!

Cherry7 03-02-2012 09:54 AM

So the Rabbit gets the fact the bitrate is not the only way of judging quality but still is not going to change anything.

The other way of judging quality for those with no knowledge of photography is to look, to use your eyes.

All this hocus pokus about scores is bullshit. Look at a normal film review points out of 5 or 10. Is it worth the money or not?

The megasites Rabbit and others promote, considering the revenue they command, are shockingly poor quality compared to normal TV and photography.

Met Art should be cutting edge photography and erotica....instead it is sausage production of the same picture over and over again.

The Review Sites are a major failing in this industry which is only interested in cheating a buck rather than making one.

Kenny B! 03-02-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 18796974)
Holy SHIT she has fattened up! wow

Now there's a review!

DWB 03-02-2012 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 18796734)
Are you in Ky? I live in Lexington, But not from here, I'm from Pa.

Used to be. Spent 7 years there by the Ohio river. I have a lot of family in your neck of the woods.


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