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webmax 02-29-2012 02:53 PM

juicyads mobile eCPM dropped?
 
anyone else have their juicyads mobile eCPM drop dramatically in the last days or so?

Mine used to be $9~ now it has dropped to $4~ with the same traffic.

Markul 02-29-2012 03:01 PM

Yup.

Date eCPM
29-02-2012 $4.216
28-02-2012 $5.199
27-02-2012 $8.338
26-02-2012 $7.260
25-02-2012 $5.801
24-02-2012 $6.056
23-02-2012 $6.656

cybermike 02-29-2012 03:08 PM

The same.. maybe some advertisers ran out of money

Jakez 02-29-2012 03:10 PM

Yeah not looking good.

Markul 02-29-2012 03:13 PM

What is PlugRush paying?

CaptainWolfy 02-29-2012 03:37 PM

i have the same problem with ero popunders...

signupdamnit 02-29-2012 03:37 PM

Yes looks like it's time to send it somewhere else. A weakness with that system is sellers do not get to see what the buyers are actually paying for the mobiles. It's too easy to get screwed that way. As far as you know the sellers are paying the same prices as before, you're just getting less. No way am I going to send the same traffic for half the rate without at least some sort of explanation for the sudden drop.

signupdamnit 02-29-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 18790321)
Yup.

Date eCPM
29-02-2012 $4.216
28-02-2012 $5.199
27-02-2012 $8.338
26-02-2012 $7.260
25-02-2012 $5.801
24-02-2012 $6.056
23-02-2012 $6.656

My eCPM has been dropping about $1 a day since the 23rd slowly. It used to be above $10 now it's just a little above yours. Very suspicious in my opinion. No accusation though. I will wait to see what they have to say.

jimmycooper 02-29-2012 04:02 PM

$5.85
$9.62
$9.84
$10.41
$9.33
$11.79
$8.58
$8.66
$8.09
$11.24
$10.14
$11.29
$8.52
$19.89
$5.85
$1.67
$18.18
$16.58
$5.22
$6.75
$13.04
$8.59
$12.04
$12.14
$12.29
$11.49
$5.98
$9.28
$8.93
$12.24
$7.14
$11.16
$10.14
$9.61
$12.94
$12.67
$9.73
$10.09
$10.84
$9.92
$9.41
$9.08
$10.45
$10.57
$9.55
$14.14
$10.64
$8.23
$7.98
$8.86
$5.67

That's my daily CPM since early Jan. It could just be normal market fluctuations

Jakez 02-29-2012 04:31 PM

Probably has something to do with Germany.

Imortyl Pussycat 02-29-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18790520)
Probably has something to do with Germany.

that and a few other countries.

Hi Guys, sorry for the delay in response, I've been off the boards today. Several of our European countries were monopolized by one very large buyer that has moved on. All of us in sales are reaching out to advertisers that had been waiting for this traffic to open up. We are working to fill it again as quickly as possible. Thank you all for your patience and your continued business with JuicyAds. We really appreciate each and every one of you :)

mromro 02-29-2012 05:13 PM

Yup...down too...

anexsia 02-29-2012 05:14 PM

Wow glad I'm not the only one

eCPM
$4.703
$4.611
$4.664
$7.772
$8.321
$9.210
$8.496

signupdamnit 02-29-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18790561)
that and a few other countries.

Hi Guys, sorry for the delay in response, I've been off the boards today. Several of our European countries were monopolized by one very large buyer that has moved on. All of us in sales are reaching out to advertisers that had been waiting for this traffic to open up. We are working to fill it again as quickly as possible. Thank you all for your patience and your continued business with JuicyAds. We really appreciate each and every one of you :)

Fair enough thanks for the explanation.

BIGTYMER 02-29-2012 06:51 PM

Did that RaunchyGFs site stop buying ads? That was the only ad I ever saw.

18teens 02-29-2012 06:53 PM

Mine is half of what it normally is. Maybe it's time to send my traffic elsewhere.

CamTraffic 02-29-2012 07:48 PM

How much were you getting per vis?

Jakez 02-29-2012 07:54 PM

Still not going to get more elsewhere dudes.

signupdamnit 02-29-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18790772)
Still not going to get more elsewhere dudes.

I'm willing to give them a chance but this isn't true. Look around at rates per country and see for yourself. Competition is good.

anexsia 02-29-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 18790762)
How much were you getting per vis?

Country eCPM
US $4.09
GB $4.00
AU $5.44
CA $4.23
DE $51.69
FR $6.22
IT $15.43
CH $28.00
BR $2.00
ES $9.00
RU $2.00
RO $2.00
IE $8.67
NZ $4.00
PL $4.00
TR $2.00
NL $37.50
CN $2.00
ZA $14.50

Jakez 02-29-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18790786)
I'm willing to give them a chance but this isn't true. Look around at rates per country and see for yourself. Competition is good.

Probably is now. :1orglaugh

Want to mention any other places paying decent for mobile redirects? Leave a ref url.

anexsia 02-29-2012 09:03 PM

How come the US eCPM was much lower then other counties? I would have thought it would be higher...which sucks because 80% of my traffic is US. I can't wait for them to fix this though, would love to see my eCPM back to where it was.

jimmycooper 02-29-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18790847)
How come the US eCPM was much lower then other counties? I would have thought it would be higher...which sucks because 80% of my traffic is US. I can't wait for them to fix this though, would love to see my eCPM back to where it was.

Send me an email and I'll expain. Profile name at starletsheet dot com.

Jakez 02-29-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18790847)
How come the US eCPM was much lower then other counties? I would have thought it would be higher...which sucks because 80% of my traffic is US. I can't wait for them to fix this though, would love to see my eCPM back to where it was.

Scamming.

18teens 02-29-2012 10:32 PM

I would love to see an option to send all traffic to a sponsor if the eCPM falls below a certain point that we can choose. Right now they only send the traffic they don't want to your chosen sponsor. In the meantime, my eCPM has fallen by nearly 50% and right now I could be doing much better just redirecting the traffic to a sponsor myself instead.

Jakez 02-29-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18teens (Post 18790964)
I would love to see an option to send all traffic to a sponsor if the eCPM falls below a certain point that we can choose. Right now they only send the traffic they don't want to your chosen sponsor. In the meantime, my eCPM has fallen by nearly 50% and right now I could be doing much better just redirecting the traffic to a sponsor myself instead.

There's a very good reason the pay for the traffic was so high, and it's nothing to do with juicyads and everything to do with what the buyer(s) are willing to pay for the traffic. Hopefully other buyers will fill the slots and the ecpm will go back up.

kuda 03-01-2012 08:51 PM

..... :(

sergetraffic[dot]com 03-01-2012 10:09 PM

my eCPM dropped about 3x times last days. :-( Most income was from DE, but other high-pay countries went down too

eCPM by day:

2012-03-01 $6.822
2012-02-29 $4.454
2012-02-28 $9.119
2012-02-27 $17.522
2012-02-26 $17.476
2012-02-25 $16.939
2012-02-24 $19.061

anexsia 03-01-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sergetraffic[dot]com (Post 18795584)
my eCPM dropped about 3x times last days. :-( Most income was from DE, but other high-pay countries went down too

eCPM by day:

2012-03-01 $6.822
2012-02-29 $4.454
2012-02-28 $9.119
2012-02-27 $17.522
2012-02-26 $17.476
2012-02-25 $16.939
2012-02-24 $19.061

:( I hope they fix this soon, I'm surprised they didn't have a couple of advertisers in place so one didn't have such a monopoly.

CyberHustler 03-01-2012 10:18 PM

Maybe start scouting for direct buyers...?

18teens 03-01-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18795597)
Maybe start scouting for direct buyers...?

My thought exactly.

BAKO 03-01-2012 11:20 PM

Sucks for publishers. Good for me :-)

bean-aid 03-02-2012 12:16 AM

shouldn't jay come in here and comment?

tonyparra 03-06-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18790691)
Did that RaunchyGFs site stop buying ads? That was the only ad I ever saw.

this never saw anything else ever for niches like tranny etc

Adraco 03-06-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18795588)
:( I hope they fix this soon, I'm surprised they didn't have a couple of advertisers in place so one didn't have such a monopoly.

Beacuse of the "monopoly" the one having it paid such high prices, to keep everytone out. It's not like they were GIVEN the "monopoly position" for free. So you directly benefitted from having the highest paying advertiser being sent the majority or all traffic, because you got paid accordingly. Enjoy it while it lasts, and remember that no good thing lasts forever!

Klen 03-06-2012 03:27 PM

Well good to know i was not only one who experienced this.I moved to other broker which dont have such high rate as it had before juicyads but atlest is stable and dont have sudden drops due to their system organization,only have sudden ups.Still i would be return back to juicyads if old CPM returns.

Jakez 03-06-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18807675)
Well good to know i was not only one who experienced this.I moved to other broker which dont have such high rate as it had before juicyads but atlest is stable and dont have sudden drops due to their system organization,only have sudden ups.Still i would be return back to juicyads if old CPM returns.

Shouldn't have jumped the gun because the JuicyAds ecpm is pretty much back to normal again lol.

CyberHustler 03-06-2012 05:09 PM

:1orglaugh

anexsia 03-06-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18807889)
Shouldn't have jumped the gun because the JuicyAds ecpm is pretty much back to normal again lol.

Yup, I'm around $6 or so eCPM, would be nice if it was back in the $7-10 range like it was but I can't complain, still making money. I prefer Juicy Ads over Plugrush so I'll be sticking with Juicy Ads.

Klen 03-09-2012 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18808020)
Yup, I'm around $6 or so eCPM, would be nice if it was back in the $7-10 range like it was but I can't complain, still making money. I prefer Juicy Ads over Plugrush so I'll be sticking with Juicy Ads.

I had 10$ CPM before this mess,6$ CPM is not enough.

signupdamnit 03-09-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18813480)
I had 10$ CPM before this mess,6$ CPM is not enough.

I was over $10 as well. I have a lot of European traffic. It's back near $7.50 now here. I will keep sending my traffic at that rate but I may not go ahead with some other projects I had planned. My motivation is less now at 25% less profit.

LeRoy 03-09-2012 11:02 AM

Gravy trains!

Ride em while they last and be grateful :thumbsup

Klen 03-09-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18813571)
I was over $10 as well. I have a lot of European traffic. It's back near $7.50 now here. I will keep sending my traffic at that rate but I may not go ahead with some other projects I had planned. My motivation is less now at 25% less profit.

Exactly,it's simply not sustainable with such rate.

jimmycooper 03-09-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18813571)
I was over $10 as well. I have a lot of European traffic. It's back near $7.50 now here. I will keep sending my traffic at that rate but I may not go ahead with some other projects I had planned. My motivation is less now at 25% less profit.

http://i.imgur.com/Dwkcp.gif

TarPy 03-09-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18808020)
Yup, I'm around $6 or so eCPM, would be nice if it was back in the $7-10 range like it was but I can't complain, still making money. I prefer Juicy Ads over Plugrush so I'll be sticking with Juicy Ads.

Your sig says ExoClick. So, who do you officially prefer, and why?

kristin 03-09-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18790847)
How come the US eCPM was much lower then other counties? I would have thought it would be higher...which sucks because 80% of my traffic is US. I can't wait for them to fix this though, would love to see my eCPM back to where it was.

I'm not commenting on the Juicy Ads part, but wanted to give an explanation of the US v. Euro traffic and why it's so different.

On normal sites where there isn't specific geo-targetting to gain the surfer traffic, the majority of that is smartphone traffic, about 80% as you say.

It comes down to a couple of factors but the main one is billing. In Europe they can bill to the phone which greatly improves ratios. Also, you may have noticed some Euro countries CPM has gone down, like Germany due to increased regulations, which started on 9/15/2011. So people are buying clips or weekly memberships at $4.95 and they just recur like mad.

So then that leaves the majority of your traffic, US. The conversions average about 1:1500-1:2k. I've noticed (and I've never been a tube basher with sales) that when more mobile tubes opened up that had unlimited, full-length content conversions started to worsen. Who wants to leave a free porn site to go to a paid one? Not many ... and I know this is an argument that can go back and forth but I have done tests since mobile and pad started and have watched the trends. iPad ads use to convert at 1:250 and I think it was because tube sites weren't quite compatible with tablets yet. Videos wouldn't work and it would be slow loading. My banners would say iPad optimized and be up and showing before any video loaded. Then the tubes revamped the pad and I went to about 1:700 with the same CTR.

So between having to enter all your CC info on a phone and tube sites, USA traffic is worth quite a bit less than even a year ago. I've really started to notice it over the last six months or so. There are several companies that buy redirected traffic like this that just don't want US at all.

I would suggest filtering as many countries you can to make up for the US traffic.


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