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AdultKing 02-28-2012 06:42 AM

Julian Assange to be charged by US Govt.
 
It's just been reported in Australia that the US Govt have charged Julian Assange of Wikileaks.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/charg...228-1u14c.html

V_RocKs 02-28-2012 06:52 AM

Only problem is what they are charging him with can only be acted upon in a time of war... in the way our forefathers wrote it...

JFK 02-28-2012 07:03 AM

all a big secret :disgust

Failed 02-28-2012 07:04 AM

It's about time! Who does this man think he is!? Releasing information about the U.S. Government to the U.S. people, as if we have the right as Americans to know what our government is doing. It's absurd! Fry him!

AdultKing 02-28-2012 07:10 AM

If Assange is extradited to the US to face trumped up charges then I'll be amongst the protesters demanding all US bases be pulled the fuck out of Australia.

If Australia tried to extradite an American citizen or charge an American citizen for an alleged crime committed outside of our jurisdiction then the US would send the Marines to rescue him.

The US can't claim jurisdiction over the whole world.

Jman 02-28-2012 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18786614)
If Assange is extradited to the US to face trumped up charges then I'll be amongst the protesters demanding all US bases be pulled the fuck out of Australia.

If Australia tried to extradite an American citizen or charge an American citizen for an alleged crime committed outside of our jurisdiction then the US would send the Marines to rescue him.

The US can't claim jurisdiction over the whole world.

And seems a real big issue for people is kids getting bullied at school... Go Figure!!!

They are just getting them ready for the future.

L-Pink 02-28-2012 07:16 AM

I'm amazed he's still alive. The CIA is slipping.

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AdultKing 02-28-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18786621)
I'm amazed he's still alive. The CIA is slipping.

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I doubt the US would go that far. Losing Pine Gap would cripple their electronic intelligence gathering ability and if the US were to assassinate Assange I'd guarantee thousands of Australians would be on buses on their way to pull the fences down there.

L-Pink 02-28-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18786645)
I doubt the US would go that far. Losing Pine Gap would cripple their electronic intelligence gathering ability and if the US were to assassinate Assange I'd guarantee thousands of Australians would be on buses on their way to pull the fences down there.

I fully expected to read about a car crash or heart attack by now.

pornguy 02-28-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18786614)
If Assange is extradited to the US to face trumped up charges then I'll be amongst the protesters demanding all US bases be pulled the fuck out of Australia.

If Australia tried to extradite an American citizen or charge an American citizen for an alleged crime committed outside of our jurisdiction then the US would send the Marines to rescue him.

The US can't claim jurisdiction over the whole world.

Can't? they just did.

helterskelter808 02-28-2012 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18786621)
I'm amazed he's still alive. The CIA is slipping.

Not much use to Mossad if he's dead, is he?

L-Pink 02-28-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18786685)
Not much use to Mossad if he's dead, is he?

As opposed to sitting in prison?

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IllTestYourGirls 02-28-2012 08:01 AM



https://youtube.com/watch?v=8JANYT8FCik

Wikileaks confirms US gave the ok for Saddam to invade Kuwait.

2012 02-28-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18786730)



Wikileaks confirms US gave the ok for Saddam to invade Kuwait.



:thumbsup
FUCK YEAH !

DWB 02-28-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18786614)

The US can't claim jurisdiction over the whole world.

Watch them. They are doing exactly that. And not a single government out there is doing a damn thing about it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18786621)
I'm amazed he's still alive. The CIA is slipping.

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QFT! :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18786645)
I doubt the US would go that far. Losing Pine Gap would cripple their electronic intelligence gathering ability and if the US were to assassinate Assange I'd guarantee thousands of Australians would be on buses on their way to pull the fences down there.

If all else fails, they will kill him. They would even kill 500 innocent civilians from your country just to get to him. You can count n that. And what would be done about it? Nothing. They would issue a statement regretting the "accident" and that would be that.

If the USA is not put in check, and fast, the rest of the world may as well just start paying taxes to IRS.

DWB 02-28-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18786730)


https://youtube.com/watch?v=8JANYT8FCik

Wikileaks confirms US gave the ok for Saddam to invade Kuwait.

That is the amazing thing. Even with info like that leaking out, it doesn't even matter. The people don't care, other countries don't care, no one gives a shit no matter how corrupt it's found out they are.

No matter how bad these governments screw up or screw others over, it doesn't matter.

BIGTYMER 02-28-2012 08:59 AM

I'm for wikileaks but come one guys.. If you punch the biggest guy in the room expect to get your ass beat.

Rochard 02-28-2012 09:02 AM

I fail to understand how the US can charge Julian Assange with anything. He is not a US citizen, and the actions he took did not take place on US soil. US law does not apply outside of the US. It's like arresting a Russian spy in Moscow because he worked for their intelligence agency. He could be charged under US law if he committed the crime in the US and was arrested in the US, otherwise, it's not even a crime.

Now, with that said, why the CIA has allowed him to continue to operate is stunning. I'm really surprised he hasn't been shot dead yet.

AllAboutCams 02-28-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18786614)
The US can't claim jurisdiction over the whole world.

Just what i was thinking. Why every god dam time i watch the news the usa is trying to take control over someone's life/thorts/ideas/beliefs/actions. The usa is a great place to work/live but sometimes i wonder what the government is thinking.

L-Pink 02-28-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18786870)
Just what i was thinking. Why every god dam time i watch the news the usa is trying to take control over someone's life/thorts/ideas/beliefs/actions. The usa is a great place to work/live but sometimes i wonder what the government is thinking.

FYI ... I have no idea what you post, After 2 words I find myself mesmerized by your sig. Please keep posting.

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porno jew 02-28-2012 09:51 AM

old news. maybe he can share a cell with kim dotcom. sounds like a sitcom.

AllAboutCams 02-28-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18786941)
FYI ... I have no idea what you post, After 2 words I find myself mesmerized by your sig. Please keep posting.

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just for you :thumbsup

PR_Glen 02-28-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18786849)
I fail to understand how the US can charge Julian Assange with anything. He is not a US citizen, and the actions he took did not take place on US soil. US law does not apply outside of the US. It's like arresting a Russian spy in Moscow because he worked for their intelligence agency. He could be charged under US law if he committed the crime in the US and was arrested in the US, otherwise, it's not even a crime.

Now, with that said, why the CIA has allowed him to continue to operate is stunning. I'm really surprised he hasn't been shot dead yet.

that's not true, he is still breaking american law and is subject to their laws because of it. As it is the same with any country.

cia doesn't 'allow' shit.. you guys watch too many movies.. they aren't in control of everything and kill off people to suit their needs.. they tried meddling like that in the past and realized it just makes more of a mess than it does fixing the problem. This is the same organization that couldn't even kill Castro despite hundreds of attempts...

DWB 02-28-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18786849)
I fail to understand how the US can charge Julian Assange with anything. He is not a US citizen, and the actions he took did not take place on US soil. US law does not apply outside of the US. It's like arresting a Russian spy in Moscow because he worked for their intelligence agency. He could be charged under US law if he committed the crime in the US and was arrested in the US, otherwise, it's not even a crime.

Now, with that said, why the CIA has allowed him to continue to operate is stunning. I'm really surprised he hasn't been shot dead yet.

The USA does whatever it wants, whenever it wants. Period. You don't like it, you're a terrorist and a threat to our national security. We may just kidnap you, lock you up in Gitmo with no trial, and hold you there forever where you will be tortured.

America, fuck ya.

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18786870)
Just what i was thinking. Why every god dam time i watch the news the usa is trying to take control over someone's life/thorts/ideas/beliefs/actions. The usa is a great place to work/live but sometimes i wonder what the government is thinking.

Not "trying." They usually do it.

Just imagine the world in 20 more years. It's gonna be great.

DaddyHalbucks 02-28-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18786870)
Just what i was thinking. Why every god dam time i watch the news the usa is trying to take control over someone's life/thorts/ideas/beliefs/actions. The usa is a great place to work/live but sometimes i wonder what the government is thinking.

I know, the nerve of standing up to Hitler and then the Soviets!

:Oh crap

:upsidedow

:helpme

DaddyHalbucks 02-28-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18786870)
Just what i was thinking. Why every god dam time i watch the news the usa is trying to take control over someone's life/thorts/ideas/beliefs/actions.

Wow I am offended.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18786870)
The usa is a great place to work/live but sometimes i wonder what the government is thinking.

But I love the results.

:1orglaugh

DaddyHalbucks 02-28-2012 11:09 AM

In my view, the real question is not whether Julian Assange broke the law by disclosing classified information, but whether he was justified doing so under a whistleblower theory.

He's got big balls, that's for sure. US Government is one of the toughest adversaries on the planet.

I see both sides to the argument, but I probably side with the US. Who is Assange to make that call? If you can't prevent him, you can't prevent anyone else.

Ultimately, the problem is the US voters who vote-in officials who make bad decisions. The voters and the media and courts are supposed to keep a check on these elected and appointed folks, such as GWB and Obama and April Glaspie and Hillary Clinton. Today's media is a joke, they do anything Obama tells them to do. "Investigative journalism, what's that?!"

Just because some newfangled technology called the internet allows some low level military geek (with the aid of Assange, a foreign citizen) to download thousands of sensitive cables and distribute them worldwide in one click.. does not justify this action.

I don't want breaches of security. I want better, more trustworthy government.

Dirty Dane 02-28-2012 12:05 PM

Not charged. "drawn up secret charges" it says.
Big difference and old news.

sperbonzo 02-28-2012 02:02 PM

Obama has no problem executing US citizens without a trial, I'm surprised he doesn't just drop a bomb on him.



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AdultKing 02-28-2012 02:43 PM

It's this US behavior that incited a bunch of Muslims to fly planes into two buildings. People all over the world, not just the Arab or Muslim communities, are completely sick and tired of the unilateral actions of the USA.

Ask most Aussies in the street and they will tell you they'd like the US to get fucked. The USA is responsible for so many great things, has produced excellent ideas, discoveries, thinkers, inventions and good policies. However it has also completely over-reached it's jurisdiction and bullied peoples from all over the world.

If the US acted a little less arrogantly then it might have a few more friends.


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