Will Hillary Clinton ever be President?
 

Do you believe that Hillary Clinton will ever be President?

She has been busting ass to get that title for a long time.

nay

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I would like to see Hillary succeed Obama in 2016... :flagface :thumbsup

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She said it herself, that she's not going to run again. So unfortunately, no - she will not be POTUS.

I think her role she has now is probably more important.

Lets face it, her role means meeting all the big wigs.

Why be president and have to put up with the great unwashed.

Hillary will be sixty-nine years old in 2016. I don't see her running. Also, I predict 2016 will be like 1980 - a horribly unpopular democrat incumbent who drove the nation bankrupt will nearly guarantee a republican landslide. Better republican candidates like Chris Christie seem to be betting on that.

Yeah she is kind of old. But old Senator Bird was like 93 when he kicked it.

I think if timing and environment is right she might jump back in.

If you know the history of our nation's suffrage you will grasp the reasoning.

Uh, how is there going to be a Dem incumbent in 2016?

If Obama's next four years are good or even great, Hillary has a really good shot.

No fucking chance

voted no

I like her so I voted yes - However, I suspect it is wishful thinking....

There needs to be a few more options in the poll, but if she runs, and no one says they are going to run this far out, its a definite maybe.

I predict a win for Obama in 2012. Between 2012 and 2016, the bills will come due for trillions in completely out of control spending over the last three years. Obamacare will kick in all the way and health insurance rates will rise 80% or more. These facts are a mathematical certainty because the money has already been spent. The bill ($30,000 per taxpayer) will arrive.

Unable to kick the can any further down the road, I predict Obama will see approval ratings in the 30s and a republican landslide in 2016.

If Obama loses in 2012, it's the same math, switch the parties. The borrowed money still has to be repaid. The voters will suddenly realize medicare was trashed. Though that's part of Obamacare, if a republican is in the whitehouse when it takes effect they'll be blamed and it'll be a democrat landslide in 2016. In other words, whoever wins in 2012 will lose big in 2016, and I think Obama will win in 2012 because no republican with a brain is campaigning to be the guy who takes the heat when this shitstorm blows up. Anyone who can do basic arithmetic can see that the next four years we're fucked - we racked up more debt in just the last three years than the combined total of the first 230 years of our existence.

Her big run at it was in 2008. I suspect that may have been her only shot and it just wasn't in the cards for her. Lately she doesn't seem very interested in trying another year-long grueling campaign trail.

Then again women have been known to change their minds from time to time. :D

I can't see it happening.

Assuming Obama win reelection one of two things will happen. Either things will continue to improve and Obama will be popular or they will get worse and he will have a terrible approval rating. Even if he is popular and Hillary decides to run it doesn't mean she is a shoe in. Look at Gore. Clinton was very popular when he left office. The economy was good, the world was at relative peace and things look great and yet Gore still lost. A lot of that can be blamed on Gore himself, but it goes to show that often after 8 years of one party people want a change.

Er, she's already said she won't run for president in the future. Source

I bet she would have a really good chance of winning if she runs in 2016.

Any neutral sourcres of any of that?

Know why the budget is so high? This admin actually put the wars and medicare part D on the books, as opposed to Bush.

It sitll makes 0 sense how an incumbent would lose aftare his term in office. You really don't seem to pay attention to what's actually going on and I've corrected you time and time again. I'm glad you still don't spew that stupid Pelosi line you trotted out whenever you thought it would make a point. Kudos for that, seirously.

just about every politician says that till they announce.

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Don't think so.

I don't know...

She was probably told, in order to keep her current position, to put her ambitions on the back burner, so as not to distract from what she's doing now.:2 cents:

She said for Obama "He's our President. He represents all of the United States, and he will be reelected President"

Who knows ...

Thre's some truth to that. Also with Gore remember Clinton's first few years the economy was hot, it was fast and loose money whiten Clinton came in and his first few years. His LAST couple years, election time, the economy had started to drop significantly. Today we remember the good years early in the Clinton presidency, but at election time things weren't so great and the argument was made that the dems ruined a great economy.

Given the doubling of the debt and the gutting of medicare to pay for Obamacare, I don't see how his second term, if he has one, can possibly be anything but horrible. We've overspent by $20,000 per taxpayer and we WILL have to pay the piper. Trillions in debt simply don't just disappear. To me, it's like a guy making $80,000 / year salary who has just put $40,000 on credit cards saying "if next year is good I can have a nice vacation." It ain't happening. We've already spent the next ten tears worth of lucky breaks. If we're lucky, we'll be able to survive the debt and not go completely bankrupt ala Greece.

no...
hate that bitch...
she's pure evil...

She's too old i guess

You are correct, we have a ton of debt and no end to the debt and the deficit spending anywhere in site.

But those things don't really matter that much in an election. I have been hearing about how the national debt will cripple this country since I was a little kid yet we keep on moving forward. What people care about in an election is how they personally are doing. If people have a job, a decent place to live and things are looking personally good for them, they don't really worry about the debt because it is something that is out of their control and that they have been hearing about for 30 years.

If Obama wins a second term and at the end of it the unemployment rate is rate is at a reasonable level and Obamacare hasn't destroyed the healthcare system in this country most people will forgive him about the debt especially if he is putting forth budgets that look to slowly be working on shrinking it. He will be the guy who can say he made the hard choices that brought us back from the brink of economic collapse, saved the american auto industry, got Bin Laden, helped get Gadaffi out of power and brought the unemployment rate down from 10% to whatever it is as he leaves office and brought healthcare to millions that didn't have it and many people will love him for it.

People love Reagan because they see him as the guy who brought us out of recession and beat the Russians. They seem to forget that he raised taxes a dozen times and doubled the national debt. Obama could pull off a similar situation. Politics is all about perception not fact. So long as the debt doesn't collapse our system, Obama can walk away from it looking very good.

All that said, even if Obama is very popular after a second term it doesn't mean a democrat is a shoe in for the white house. The republicans will be pissed off and likely be organized and potentially could have better candidates than they have now and the people will be ready for a change.

No, .. Rick Sanatorium will though

I'd kill that bitch

True, but DOUBLING the total debt in just four years may very well bring about that very collapse people have been warning about. We're on track to spend about 20% of total revenues just paying interest on the debt. As that number rises due to further borrowing, there is no money left for government services. As the CBO has warned, unemployment checks won't go out, government workers will have to be laid off, etc. as all of the revenue goes to debt service. See Greece. The ordinary voters will notice when 20% of them are laid off. Can you imagine any possible math that avoids that?

With borrowing at 20% and debt service at 10% this year, spending would have to be cut by a full 30% just to.stop making the situation worse. I can't imagine Obama cutting all government spending by at least 30%, so therefore it can only get worse until it eventually implodes.

you have issues

she had her chance and lost.

Things are not good for sure, but the reality is nobody, not Obama, not Romney, not Santorum will cut spending by 30%. In the past when we ramp up the debt we hope the economy rebounds and that increased cash flow helps pay it back down some. that may not happen here so there is always a chance that something very bad could happen.

That said, I almost think we are too big to fail. So many countries have so much invested in us that if they let this country collapse they would go down in flames with us so I have a feeling they will just continue to prop us up and keep things going no matter how ugly they get.