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LightscapeMedia 02-16-2012 11:30 PM

I started a clips4sale store..
 
I don't know though.. most of the stuff I've shot is fairly mainstream. Cute girl masturbating, blowing a guy, stripping, etc..

Looking through the categories, there's some weird shit out there.

So I've decided.. I need to find a fetish. Can someone suggest a fetish for a fairly straight laced guy when it comes to porn? I need something I can feel good about shooting of course and I really don't want to hang out with a bunch of farting women or get my balls crushed.

globofun 02-16-2012 11:57 PM

Clown Midgets crushing Hot Wheels cars with old school roller skates while fingering hamsters' butts!

Is that weird enough?

papill0n 02-16-2012 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by globofun (Post 18764750)
Clown Midgets crushing Hot Wheels cars with old school roller skates while fingering hamsters' butts!

Is that weird enough?

roller skates!

you sick mother fucker :disgust

martinsc 02-17-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18764753)
roller skates!

you sick mother fucker :disgust

:1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 02-17-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by globofun (Post 18764750)
Clown Midgets crushing Hot Wheels cars with old school roller skates while fingering hamsters' butts!

Is that weird enough?

Thats so 2005...Chinchillas where its at baby...when you squish it has greater impact.:thumbsup

Brad Mitchell 02-17-2012 12:52 AM

I dont know.. as long as they're not wet farts its probably not obscene and I haven't yet seen that on a porn site. LMFAO

How about something specific apparel related.. particular panty or lingerie type(s).

Or..

Put all the models in moon boots and hang them upside down! Anyone else remember the 80s?

Or...

Do something specific with all the semen in the shoot.. what, I dont know, that's not usually my problem. LOL. Finger painting!

Or....

Bedazzle the talent

Or..... Pick real age and stick to talent that is precisely that. I suggest there are some men (cough) that don't want to see a tatooed high school dropout stripper with three kids at 18-25 on a MILF site just because they weren't neutered at the health department or smart enough to use condoms. Very likely even seperating milfs into age categories would convert but agreed that this concept isn't niche enough..

......god damn, I think moon boots are a winner. Ha!

Brad

xenigo 02-17-2012 01:24 AM

Urine drinking, ball crushing & snuff films. Backup plan should be poop eating, auto-felatio, self-mutilation, and self-amputation.

Sales will be off the charts.

Paul Markham 02-17-2012 01:43 AM

Find a star, like Tawney, and promote her as a personal entity rather than faceless porn churned out on a conveyor belt. We have 100,000s of scenes like that and no point in doing it again. Finding a niche a straight guy can get into is like me shooting Gay for Gays.

Use your personality to get a girl to do something extra.

Easy one is Acuvibes and Pifco Magic wands and tell them to keep it there till they faint with ecstasy.

bean-aid 02-17-2012 01:46 AM

The guy that works for clips4sale... think he still does... had an set around me. He used to shoot balloon popping...

They would wear makup with rosy cheeks and just film them bouncing on balloons till they popped. I think the "niche" is the "waiting" for the balloon to POP.

Hope that helps

StariaDaniel 02-17-2012 01:58 AM

Ok, serious reply ...

First of all you should browse the categories and see if there's anything you either find hot yourself (most easy to shoot). If there's nothing you personally like you should try to understand the different fetishes - you won't get all of them if you're not into it, but for some this will work ...

Save yourself some money by not shooting stuff you don't like/understand - 99% of the time the customers will instantly notice and don't buy your stuff (or you've one-time customers only at best) ... you just won't be able to shoot it in the right angles / write appealing descriptions / etc.

LightscapeMedia 02-17-2012 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 18764904)
Ok, serious reply ...

First of all you should browse the categories and see if there's anything you either find hot yourself (most easy to shoot). If there's nothing you personally like you should try to understand the different fetishes - you won't get all of them if you're not into it, but for some this will work ...

I've been sort of doing this.. I found a couple I could get into.

"Forced to Strip", "Girls Covered in Oil"... I could kinda get into those things.

xenigo 02-17-2012 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 18764904)
Save yourself some money by not shooting stuff you don't like/understand - 99% of the time the customers will instantly notice and don't buy your stuff (or you've one-time customers only at best) ... you just won't be able to shoot it in the right angles / write appealing descriptions / etc.

Serious reply? I'm straight. I've shot a shit-ton of gay content over the course of many many years and sold thousands of memberships... and maintained a very consistent business shooting content for major gay websites. The differentiating factor is "are you a photographer that gives a shit?" Not "are you a fan of the niche?"

Any photographer who knows anything about lighting and composition can shoot any niche if they know what the niche is about, and be very very successful.

Now, whether they WANT to do it... that's another factor entirely.

LightscapeMedia 02-17-2012 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18764929)
Serious reply? I'm straight. I've shot a shit-ton of gay content over the course of many many years and sold thousands of memberships... and maintained a very consistent business shooting content for major gay websites. The differentiating factor is "are you a photographer that gives a shit?" Not "are you a fan of the niche?"

Any photographer who knows anything about lighting and composition can shoot any niche if they know what the niche is about, and be very very successful.

Now, whether they WANT to do it... that's another factor entirely.

One of the reasons I've never shot gay is that I'm not gay. I just don't know how I'd be able to look at a scene or a clip and say, "That's awesome"..

I actually am a photographer by trade. And I have a shit ton of stuff that's already been shot. I'm just not sure if it's what people on the site will be looking for. It's pretty tame by the standards of the other stuff I'm seeing on there.

DWB 02-17-2012 03:28 AM

Just have girls kick you in the nuts. Big seller.

StariaDaniel 02-17-2012 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18764929)
Serious reply? I'm straight. I've shot a shit-ton of gay content over the course of many many years and sold thousands of memberships... and maintained a very consistent business shooting content for major gay websites. The differentiating factor is "are you a photographer that gives a shit?" Not "are you a fan of the niche?"

Any photographer who knows anything about lighting and composition can shoot any niche if they know what the niche is about, and be very very successful.

Now, whether they WANT to do it... that's another factor entirely.

Well, you at least seem to understand gay porn then - which qualifies you to shoot it (although maybe a GAY photographer with the same skills and knowledge COULD shoot better content) and which kind of prooved my point ... as I said you either get off on the stuff yourself OR you understand it ...

Trust me, I've tried out various photographers and producers to produce micro niche content, all over the world, in house, etc. - only a very small % got it right. It's not about lighting or great photography - it's about understanding the niches, focus on the right details, shoot the right angles, noticing when the model isn't doing something right, etc.

To pick up the gay porn example - it's still porn. I don't know anything about it, but I'd assume it's not that MUCH different than straight porn ... now imagine you'd shoot a scene where a model crushes balloons like someone mentioned above - that has nothing to do with porn and only very few people would know how to shoot it - correct? (And that isn't even one of the "weirder" fetishes ...)

I've seen a ton of new producers on our own video sites and on sites like clips4sale that went online and disappeared a few weeks/months later - simply because they didn't earn what they expected to earn. On the other hand I've seen girls shooting their own crappy videos (quality wise), weren't "good" looking but got the niche 100% and earned a lot of cash over the time ...

Again, no pun intended, maybe you're one of the 1% that would be able to do it right :thumbsup

CurrentlySober 02-17-2012 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18764844)
wet farts...

i like... :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

CurrentlySober 02-17-2012 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 18764693)

So I've decided.. I need to find a fetish...

Welcome to 2012 !

Seriously, see my cig... :thumbsup

Nicky 02-17-2012 06:07 AM

You don't have some kind of thing you are into yourself that is considered niche? That is always the best bet.

CuddleKitty 02-17-2012 06:23 AM

Why not try having the woman being a submissive? If your not into the whole domme thing, with cock abuse, dildo up the guys ass and other things to do with humiliation, then having the woman be the sub is always a good way to go and loads of guys into that.

mikesinner 02-17-2012 06:51 AM

Street hookers seem to sell well on there.

SmutHammer 02-17-2012 07:07 AM

I have a few suggestions.

Handjobs are easy to shoot (pov) and sell very well on clips4sale.

Keep the clips around 5 minutes each, they usually sell better that way.

Natural light is always best, if possible try and shoot day time close to a window.

Ignore all the posts about Looner vids (Balloon popping etc.) I'm soon launching a Looner website less competition is better for me....lol

ilnjscb 02-17-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18764895)
The guy that works for clips4sale... think he still does... had an set around me. He used to shoot balloon popping...

They would wear makup with rosy cheeks and just film them bouncing on balloons till they popped. I think the "niche" is the "waiting" for the balloon to POP.

Hope that helps

balloons and puffy jackets, and smoking. The great thing (apparently) is you can pay models like $50 for an hour and since the raws have no "money shot" you can make 10 clips out of it.

ninavain 02-17-2012 08:49 AM

Ass worship, Ass grinding-lapdancing, Brat girl, handjobs, foot worship, Non nude mean girls, financial domination, any kind of verbal humiliation and Jerk Off encouragement..I have 16 stores on C4s..been there since 06
easy money..especially this girl ( over 250 vids..haven't shot anything new since Aug 2010 I just rotate the clips every 2 months) still my biggest store @ $x,xxx a month
http://clips4sale.com/studio/17010
http://image1234.clips4sale.com/acco...200631610M.gif

xholly 02-17-2012 09:11 AM

costume play

CIVMatt 02-20-2012 08:18 AM

I've always told people find something odd that you enjoy and work off of that.

duk75 02-10-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18764929)
Serious reply? I'm straight. I've shot a shit-ton of gay content over the course of many many years and sold thousands of memberships... and maintained a very consistent business shooting content for major gay websites. The differentiating factor is "are you a photographer that gives a shit?" Not "are you a fan of the niche?"

Any photographer who knows anything about lighting and composition can shoot any niche if they know what the niche is about, and be very very successful.

Now, whether they WANT to do it... that's another factor entirely.

DO you direct your shootings? DO you say what position to do, what to say, what rhythm should be taken?

You might have reason, you can do it acceptably if you know the common canons of that niche. But I doubt the production will be opera prima, if you don't like it.

duk75 02-10-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18765423)
Ass worship, Ass grinding-lapdancing, Brat girl, handjobs, foot worship, Non nude mean girls, financial domination, any kind of verbal humiliation and Jerk Off encouragement..I have 16 stores on C4s..been there since 06
easy money..especially this girl ( over 250 vids..haven't shot anything new since Aug 2010 I just rotate the clips every 2 months) still my biggest store @ $x,xxx a month
http://clips4sale.com/studio/17010
http://image1234.clips4sale.com/acco...200631610M.gif

You store is empty.

femdomdestiny 02-11-2013 05:40 AM

is there some software available for sites like clips4 sales?

pgmorin 02-11-2013 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 18765480)
costume play

That is a bad idea :P

Barefootsies 02-11-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18765860)
You need to devote it to a fetish you understand or they won't sell well at all. It's all about the titles, descriptions, look of the girl, lighting, when you update, how you structure it and so on.

Correct.

Quote:

JohnnyClips
So Fucking Banned

ninavain 02-11-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by duk75 (Post 19474382)
You store is empty.

I consolidated in 1 store http://badbrats.com it's easier to maintain and promote 1 place for everyone into multiple niches to purchase

CourtneyR 02-11-2013 09:08 AM

have her pop balloons. Yes i said that right! dress slutty and have her crush balloons with her thighs ass and by hugging them.

Penny24Seven 02-11-2013 09:37 AM

1248 visits to the clip store yesterday 1 clip sold lol. My stores have 7 months in a row with at least a 6% drop and some months 20%. Not sure if it is even worth the time anymore :(

bronco67 02-11-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 18764693)
I don't know though.. most of the stuff I've shot is fairly mainstream. Cute girl masturbating, blowing a guy, stripping, etc..

Looking through the categories, there's some weird shit out there.

So I've decided.. I need to find a fetish. Can someone suggest a fetish for a fairly straight laced guy when it comes to porn? I need something I can feel good about shooting of course and I really don't want to hang out with a bunch of farting women or get my balls crushed.

Usually a fetish finds you. What I'm saying is, why would try to do something you have no interest in? how good is a product going to be made by someone who knows nothing about it, or has no passion for it?


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