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BFT3K 02-01-2012 07:45 AM

Today's Presidential Poll - Who Do You Choose?
 
I know this field will shrink by November, but if you had to vote right now, who do you choose?

DWB 02-01-2012 08:11 AM

It's going to be four more years of the same. Enjoy it. Hope you're all still around at the end of his 2nd term. Probably 1/2 of you won't be.

pornguy 02-01-2012 08:31 AM

Man I can not believe people would actually vote this guy in again.

Tom_PM 02-01-2012 08:36 AM

The real battles will be for congress and senate IMO. Congress could be an easy takeover for the dems, but the senate is tougher.

L-Pink 02-01-2012 08:40 AM

That's it ...? That's all America can dig up ... ? I feel like sticking a pen thru my eyes.

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pornmasta 02-01-2012 09:33 AM

sick rantorum ftw ! ;)

Rochard 02-01-2012 10:00 AM

The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. Obama isn't half bad - He's taken a bad situation and made it some what better. Seriously, no one in recent times has been handed a worse situation - Two wars, the worst economy since the 1930s, and a complete lack of confidence in our government at all levels...

Here's how I think it's gonna play out - Mitt Romney will become the GOP nominee and will loose to Obama.

nextri 02-01-2012 11:09 AM

0 of 31 votes to romney so far.. And he's the front runner..

raymor 02-01-2012 11:09 AM

From 1776 to 2008 the US racked up $10 trillion in debt.
Just three years later, it's $17 trillion.

Not half bad?! He's got each and every one of us tens of thousands of dollars in the hole - about $60,000 per household.

Over the next few years, when you start getting the bills for that $60,000 you now owe, you might feel differently.

(Some calculate $122,00 per household, I gave him the benefit of using the more favorable number.)

candyflip 02-01-2012 11:18 AM

Ron Paul running as a true Third Party candidate or independent could be the shake up our political system needs.

BFT3K 02-01-2012 11:18 AM

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...41680550_n.jpg

raymor 02-01-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18726473)

A) Your graph is outdated by over a year. Add another $3 trillion to Obama to update it.

B) your graphic says Bush was president in 2009. Correct that by moving $1.7 trillion from Bush to Obama.

Then note that nearly half of the entire debt in the whole history of the country was incurred in just three years, from 2009-2012.

raymor 02-01-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18726500)
A) Your graph is outdated by over a year. Add another $3 trillion to Obama to update it.

B) your graphic says Bush was president in 2009. Correct that by moving $1.7 trillion from Bush to Obama.

Then note that nearly half of the entire debt in the whole history of the country was incurred in just three years, from 2009-2012.

Ps - Based on the numbers, the conclusion is that Bush really sucked, yet Obama sucks twice as bad. That's pretty impressive to be twice as fucked up as Bush.

Vendzilla 02-01-2012 11:42 AM

so what we have learned is Bush and Obama spent too much money, time for a change?

BFT3K 02-01-2012 11:50 AM

This looks like a good place to start...

http://www.cbpp.org/images/4-13-11TopTenTaxCharts6.jpg

http://www.cbpp.org/images/cms/9-27-06tax-f1.jpg

BFT3K 02-01-2012 12:14 PM

Amazing commentary...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...e-ride-is-over

Rothstein 02-01-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18725456)
Man I can not believe people would actually vote this guy in again.

Man I can not believe there are people that think Obama some how screwed everything up. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 02-01-2012 12:16 PM

fuck all of them

BFT3K 02-01-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextri (Post 18726385)
0 of 31 votes to romney so far.. And he's the front runner..

Yeah, but no one likes him - not even Hitler! :1orglaugh



https://youtube.com/watch?v=dIDPtL5qT9A

chaze 02-01-2012 02:20 PM

Barack by far but I don't like him much either.

spazlabz 02-01-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaze (Post 18727958)
Barack by far but I don't like him much either.

+1 :2 cents:

L-Pink 02-01-2012 03:50 PM

50% Obama? How many times did brassmonkey vote?

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tonyparra 02-01-2012 06:12 PM

i would vote for Obama, i couldnt give a shit about the national debt, it will never be paid, never go away, and never be collected on.

StickyGreen 02-01-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18727217)
Man I can not believe there are people that think Obama some how screwed everything up. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Obama signed the NDAA which allows for the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial.

That single thing is enough to vote his ass out of office...

Oh wait, that's right, you fools don't care about your rights and freedoms anymore... carry on...

D Ghost 02-01-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18725456)
Man I can not believe people would actually vote this guy in again.

Totally. And anyone who votes for Romney or Gingrich are pretty much tallying up another vote for Obama to win again.

ErectMedia 02-01-2012 07:03 PM

Ron Paul :thumbsup

stocktrader23 02-01-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18726500)
A) Your graph is outdated by over a year. Add another $3 trillion to Obama to update it.

B) your graphic says Bush was president in 2009. Correct that by moving $1.7 trillion from Bush to Obama.

Then note that nearly half of the entire debt in the whole history of the country was incurred in just three years, from 2009-2012.

Bush was President *until* 2009, the fucking graph is accurate. Is it really necessary to lie to make your point?

Edit: And you want to make up numbers for it being a year out of date, one month into 2012 isn't a year so I'd wager you're numbers are wrong there too.

acrylix 02-01-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18728565)
i would vote for Obama, i couldnt give a shit about the national debt, it will never be paid, never go away, and never be collected on.

I think any webmaster being paid in U.S. dollars should be concerned. One of the reasons the United States has gotten away with this scheme for so long is the USD's status as the world's main reserve currency. However, it's well known that many countries are tired of holding onto this mounting debt, and are actively looking into alternatives. Guess what happens to the value of all webmasters' paychecks in U.S. dollars when that happens?

Would be nice if more programs started paying out in other currencies. But the majority of porn sales still come from America.

The mounting national debt is a huge problem which needs to be addressed. A few tax hikes in an already bad economy will not do the trick. Neither will the Fed's ability to create more money out of thin air and lend it to their cronies. The issue is spending, and I see only one candidate who's proposing any serious cuts in this regard: Ron Paul. That is the top reason why he gets my vote.

DaddyHalbucks 02-01-2012 10:05 PM

Dr. Paul !!!

brassmonkey 02-01-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18728294)
50% Obama? How many times did brassmonkey vote?

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:1orglaugh im not voting this time around. Im voting for Mrs Clinton if she runs.

uno 02-01-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18726388)
From 1776 to 2008 the US racked up $10 trillion in debt.
Just three years later, it's $17 trillion.

Not half bad?! He's got each and every one of us tens of thousands of dollars in the hole - about $60,000 per household.

Over the next few years, when you start getting the bills for that $60,000 you now owe, you might feel differently.

(Some calculate $122,00 per household, I gave him the benefit of using the more favorable number.)

Know what a lot of that debt is from? Putting the wars, medicare part d, etc on the books.

BIGTYMER 02-01-2012 10:50 PM

America is long over due for a revolution.

Chosen 02-02-2012 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18727218)
fuck all of them

:2 cents:

u-Bob 02-02-2012 06:34 AM

I'm not an American so I can't vote. and even if I could, I still wouldn't vote. But Ron Paul gets my sympathy.

tony286 02-02-2012 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18726388)
From 1776 to 2008 the US racked up $10 trillion in debt.
Just three years later, it's $17 trillion.

Not half bad?! He's got each and every one of us tens of thousands of dollars in the hole - about $60,000 per household.

Over the next few years, when you start getting the bills for that $60,000 you now owe, you might feel differently.

(Some calculate $122,00 per household, I gave him the benefit of using the more favorable number.)

sorry only 2.4 trillion of it was during Obama. He put the wars and medicare part D on the books, Mr Bush played accounting games. Also where were you when Dick Cheney said with a smirk deficits don't matter?

http://www.connectthedotsusa.com/pdf...OhMySlides.pdf

tony286 02-02-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18726500)
A) Your graph is outdated by over a year. Add another $3 trillion to Obama to update it.

B) your graphic says Bush was president in 2009. Correct that by moving $1.7 trillion from Bush to Obama.

Then note that nearly half of the entire debt in the whole history of the country was incurred in just three years, from 2009-2012.

Bush's budget is til 2009 just like Obama's will be one year after his term.

tony286 02-02-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18726726)
so what we have learned is Bush and Obama spent too much money, time for a change?

But you were very quiet during Bush Hmmm

tony286 02-02-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrylix (Post 18728783)
I think any webmaster being paid in U.S. dollars should be concerned. One of the reasons the United States has gotten away with this scheme for so long is the USD's status as the world's main reserve currency. However, it's well known that many countries are tired of holding onto this mounting debt, and are actively looking into alternatives. Guess what happens to the value of all webmasters' paychecks in U.S. dollars when that happens?

Would be nice if more programs started paying out in other currencies. But the majority of porn sales still come from America.

The mounting national debt is a huge problem which needs to be addressed. A few tax hikes in an already bad economy will not do the trick. Neither will the Fed's ability to create more money out of thin air and lend it to their cronies. The issue is spending, and I see only one candidate who's proposing any serious cuts in this regard: Ron Paul. That is the top reason why he gets my vote.

The debt can be handled raise taxes and make it expensive to import jobs. After ww2 the debt was 120% of GDP.

tony286 02-02-2012 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18727217)
Man I can not believe there are people that think Obama some how screwed everything up. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well when you got the rights noise machine running around the clock. They own talk radio. people believe the bullshit after hearing it over and over.

tony286 02-02-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18725419)
It's going to be four more years of the same. Enjoy it. Hope you're all still around at the end of his 2nd term. Probably 1/2 of you won't be.

If you think they are all going to be here if Ron Paul is President your kidding yourself. lol


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