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BBC Report "Should access to online pornography be blocked?"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16670628
"22 January 2012 Last updated at 10:36 GMT Help If you switch to a new provider for your internet access later this year, you will be forced to make a choice: do you want access to adult content or not? If you are with one of the big four providers, you won't be able to get online until you answer. It's a fresh step taken to protect younger teenagers from hardcore material, which is sometimes seen by children who have barely started secondary school. But the move is controversial, alarming firms which say they run lawful sites already restricted to adults - and those who fear for the free nature of the internet. Nick Ravenscroft reports." Oppinions? Is it just the normal well... "special approach to the worlds things" by british people or does this makes any sense? |
I think this a GREAT step forward, and I will be one of the first to sign up and vocally support this ! :2 cents:
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Btw this is a video follow up of it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15256993
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Its a good idea and they allready do this if you buy a dongle or a new mobile phone. You have to phone up and ask them to remove it. I had to do it. The only problem I did find is that it blocked mainstream sites like youtube and some game sites as well as all adult sites. But yep I think its a good idea and will support it
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Hungary is now being targeted that, for instance: - Our media is censored, state controlled and the media is not free - We are not a democracy - We are controlled by the government closely - We are not free in general and we have a dictatorship. Whilst: - Media is not controlled at all, on some stations open speaking about how bad is the government goes on 24/7 - I can do whatever I want, anywhere I want, nobody will bother - I can go wherever I want, nobody blocks me doing this And this includes that I have free access to anything on the internet, data protection laws are in fact weakend this jan 1. so the ISPs no longer keeping any data about anybody regarding surfing behaviours and so. So... why the UK is not attacked by these EU politics about freedom and stuff? Just used my logic ... if we are attacked for bogus stuff, whiches are not exists then why the UK is not attacked for things that exists? |
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Its a good idea for dumb parents who dont know how to block porn sites from kids |
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I have children - I dont want tem watching filth ! Adults with credit cards however are a different matter.. After all, muy children (despite their pocket money) cant pay ! Think about it!!! |
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Same with porn I believe; it is obviously a bad thing for them. Their soul is not prepared for most of the stuff which is available porn related on the net - honestly, some stuff even not for my disguse, and I experienced a lot in the last 3-4 months. BUT - as the report pointed out that some teenagers are starting their sex life in a way inapropriate way - this ban only works if everybody and everything is banned, as sex life has two sides, two humans (at least). So if one has not clue about what is going to happen when the other part is just about do stuff he (or she maybe...) saw in the internet and thinks that this is normal as breathing air, there will be confusion and maybe a bigger harm done. Hope that my point is clear in that, sorry if my english is bad or anything to express my thoughts :) |
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With so many free sites and porn tube sites you dont even need a credit card to view porn so even if a child hasent got access to a credit card it dosent stop them from viewing it. |
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Well they do have sex education at school and yes a lot they do pick up from their mates, but to have a kid watching had core porn on the internet is a big no no and they have plenty of time as they become an adult to explore and find out more about sex whether that be online or from their friends. |
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Blocked by default is bad. Giving a free choice is good.
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Difficult for a human, even more difficult for a computer program. There are going to be a ton of false positives (sites that shouldn't be blocked) and probably a fair few false negatives (adult sites that SHOULD be blocked) The best way to protect your kids from the big bad internet is to supervise them. |
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We just went through this shit in Australia, and the "oh my god, won't SOMEONE please think of the children?" mentality is sickening. You cannot use flawed technical "solutions" to replace education and supervision of your kids. |
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Lots of teenage boys will be shitting their pants over this, but then again most will easily find a way around it. When I was a teeanger I was the go-to-guy for anything technical, like setting up the VCR or tuning in the TV.
I remember getting my first computer then convincing my mom to sign up for a free month trial of AOL dial-up. One snag: credit card required. Well, being about 14 I had to convince my mom to use her card. We sat down at the computer together and went through the signup process together. I knew there was porn on the Internet. I can only imagine the excuses I would've come up with if we would've been asked "would you like to block adult content?" :1orglaugh Needless to say, when my parents went out a few hours later, I was spraying cum all over the place. Then I spent the next few weeks shitting myself, because I thought that the itemized phone bill might show all the sites I'd been visiting. For the next few weeks I rushed home from school hoping to intercept the bill before my parents got home. :1orglaugh :jerkoff ... and I've been whacking it online ever since. |
1984 was not written about America... We must fight the tyranny
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its too late the governments and corporations are taking over the internet, we are all fucked
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I assume you're single and old. So no experience of bringing up a child or memory of what you got up to as a child. Here's something from a Father. Eva and I were watching a comedy on the TV, our daughter was showering. When she came down two girls were kissing, it was a dare and part of the episode. Our 9 year old daughter blurted out "They're Gay". which surprised us as we had no idea she knew what it meant. So when she returned from school and before Eva got in, Dad had a little chat with her. Seems she knew more than we thought. Girls or boys that kiss each other are "in love with each other". She understands the sex act. Not fully but knows what the bits are for. Knew about sleeping, what Mums and Dads do. Where did she learn all this. At school, not in a lesson, from talking to her friends and reading a book one of them has. She got the book for Xmas and has had a further chat with Dad and will come back when she needs to know more. Which is very unlikely. Eva has already told her about puberty and periods and how her body will change. But not the person to openly discuss sex with her. We now all joke about it and when the dog starts bonking one of his stuffed toys, it's a joke and we all understand it. You can't wrap children in cotton wool. Have you seen a Lady Gaga concert or video? Prepare them for the world. But let them see what some of us produce? NO FUCKING WAY!!! If I can possibly stop it. This also gives the parents of your kids friends the same choice. :thumbsup |
All well said.
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You should have the 'choice' to block it if you like. But it should not be blocked by default. |
Mobile sales are massive over here, so it doesn't seem to be damaging the biz in anyway at all. Stops freeloaders and kids.
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I'm all for protecting my kids from the big bad internet, but you seem to be missing the point that the METHOD of blocking is flawed; it is still possible for sites to slip through the cracks. Censorship will lessen the chance of your kids stumbling onto something accidentally, but it's not an ironclad solution to ensure they'll never see adult content. That's why I am advocating education (tell your kids, in an appropriate way for their age, that they may find something bad on the internet, and encourage them to tell you if they do) and basic parental supervision. The internet isn't a babysitter. |
How can you guys not see this as pure BS
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When a site is blocked, does it say so clearly and unambigously, including some wording that indicates how to turn off the block?
If not, so that many less technically saavy people don't know that the reason they can't get to a site is because someone decided it's not appropriate for kids, that's bad. If the message you get doesn't make it clear that you can turn it on and off, it's interesting that the majority of webmasters seem to support blocking their own sites, but were radically opposed to blocking sites dedicated to theft. |
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I would welcome anything that allows parents to keep their children innocent for as long as possible.
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Currently the filters block so many ordinary sites that a lot of people end up removing it with no intention of looking at porn anyway. |
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I'm sure if those parents are really worried about porn, they have taken the time and made the effort to filter their internet connection (either by installing software themselves or asking a tech save friend/neighbor/technician to do it for them) instead of waiting 15 years for the government to come up with a solution. |
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it shouldn't be blocked by default
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I'm 'Grandad' these days :) |
I think people should be given a choice when they sign up for service. Do you want porn blocked or not. Then parents can decide what is best for their family.
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I don't know what to think about it.
Of course we don't want children to watch porn, hell it takes 2 secs to see some ! But blocking stuff and trying to manage internet is something that scares the hell out of me ! |
I'm actually satisfied with all the inputs I'm getting in this thread; exactly the stuff I wanted to get in return by starting this. "This thread delivers" - REALLY IS :thumbsup
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I support it if it can only be unblocked by a credit card.
Think about it. Freeloaders would be fucked! :1orglaugh |
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Education + filtering. :thumbsup Quote:
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Children need protecting from what some in this thread publish. And it should not be left to chance, educate them they might see something bad or relying on friends parents having the filtering programs. It's simple, do you strap a seat belt around your child because its the law or it's the best thing to do or both? Both covers more angles. :thumbsup |
It's not all about the kids. My grandmother should be able to search online for tan tights in the comfort of her wing backed chair without having to see nylon cumshots.
Not everyone is sitting at their computer with their dick in their hand and needs access to adult. If they want it on they will make the call or tick the box. |
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