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raymor 01-12-2012 04:38 PM

Republicans say "we'll enforce the law, whatever" as democrats ponder CDA III
 
In the news -
When asked, republican candidates said sure, we'll enforce the existing laws.

Meanwhile, the democrats haven't yet declared whether they will pass a third unconstitional ban on porn after the supreme court struck down Clinton's first two efforts, CDA and CDA II, as unconstitutional.

edgeprod 01-12-2012 04:39 PM

I assume you accidentally made this thread early? Hehe. Waiting on the edit, this should be an interesting one.

porno jew 01-12-2012 04:42 PM

where is obama's war on porn? it's 2012 not 1996.

edgeprod 01-12-2012 04:44 PM

Ok, much better, thanks for the heads up, raymor.

stocktrader23 01-12-2012 04:46 PM

Just think, 2 more years of listening to conservatives apologize for the idiotic stance their party takes on every single important issue. The cognitive dissonance required is almost unbelievable.

Quentin 01-12-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18685476)
In the news -
When asked, republican candidates said sure, we'll enforce the existing laws.

Meanwhile, the democrats haven't yet declared whether they will pass a third unconstitional ban on porn after the supreme court struck down Clinton's first two efforts, CDA and CDA II, as unconstitutional.

I think you mean "COPA" and "COPA II."

There was only one Communications Decency Act, and while the part of it that would have been most detrimental to the adult industry has been permanently enjoined by the court, the rest of the Act, including Section 230 (a rather important part of the immunity from liability enjoyed by ISPs/OSPs) is very much still in effect. :2 cents:

porno jew 01-12-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18685492)
Just think, 2 more years of listening to conservatives apologize for the idiotic stance their party takes on every single important issue. The cognitive dissonance required is almost unbelievable.

and the sheer delusion that the bulk of the party is made up of small government pro-business south park republicans instead of mouth breathing science hating dark ages religious idiots ... that have to be pandered to.

raymor 01-12-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 18685498)
I think you mean "COPA" and "COPA II."

There was only one Communications Decency Act, and while the part of it that would have been most detrimental to the adult industry has been permanently enjoined by the court, the rest of the Act, including Section 230 (a rather important part of the immunity from liability enjoyed by ISPs/OSPs) is very much still in effect. :2 cents:

As I recall COPA is known as CDA II because it was basically Clinton trying to do CDA again after the court already ruled it unconstitutional.

Shotsie 01-12-2012 07:40 PM

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Some members of Congress are up in arms at the news that the Justice Department has dismantled a Bush-era Obscenity Prosecution Task Force to go after hard-core material on the Internet. No fewer than 42 senators, most of them Republicans, have written Attorney General Eric Holder to urge tougher enforcement of obscenity laws.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/04/2...st-pornography

Stop it. There's only one party that feels the need to appease their constituents by pledging to attack "sin"

Joshua G 01-12-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 18685752)
http://reason.com/archives/2011/04/2...st-pornography

Stop it. There's only one party that feels the need to appease their constituents by pledging to attack "sin"

not exactly. clinton signed COPA. Put most democrats that run for election on the record, they will vote for family values. Only the democrat judges protect free speech.

this is exactly what happened with COPA.

tony286 01-12-2012 09:07 PM

I posted a morality in the media article how weak Clinton was on porn. Janet Reno thought going after adult porn was a waste of resources. if u look at history the right love fucking with porn.

Barry-xlovecam 01-12-2012 11:31 PM

Pass a law regulating the use of;
Code:

<meta name="RATING" content="RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-RTA" />
or similar on all adult content websites

Pass a law requiring parental filters for all children under 14 years old -- make it an administrative offense for a parent not to comply; Furthermore, repeat non compliance is proof of parental negligence with that offense's implications. We could have Federal Parental Courts :1orglaugh:1orglaugh This would just create evidence for the State Courts.

Phase 3: Listen to all the non-compliant parents whine ... I would guess that the vast majority of the operators of adult website would label them without much complaint. The labeling would not be ex post facto but for all pages created after the law's enactment -- the labeling requirement would be constitutional.

Why it won't happen?

The interest is not in passing an effective law but in rehashing the old problem over and over to get the votes of the "family oriented voter."

Mr Pheer 01-12-2012 11:46 PM

What does that meta tag do?

CYF 01-12-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 18685992)
What does that meta tag do?

presumably add a rating tag to web pages so parents can use netnanny etc to block them.

Quentin 01-13-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18685665)
As I recall COPA is known as CDA II because it was basically Clinton trying to do CDA again after the court already ruled it unconstitutional.

Ah, it may be the case that some people have referred to COPA as "CDA II," I've just never heard it positioned that way before.

When I discussed this with the ACLU attorneys who handled the case (I covered ACLU v. Mukasey for a couple of publications and I'm good friends with one of the expert witnesses called in the case), they used "COPA II" to refer to the second adjudication of COPA, which resulted in the 3rd Circuit holding it to be unconstitutional in 2008, to differentiate it from the 2004 case (Ashcroft v. ACLU) which resulted in the Supreme Court upholding the injunction issued by the Circuit court.

Since you consider it "Clinton trying to do it again," I have to ask: does the Bush Administration simply get a pass on defending COPA in court, repeatedly?

I don't see being anti-porn as an exclusively Republican, or exclusively Democratic, position. It has been a bipartisan majority position, unfortunately, where Congress, the White House, the DOJ, various State Assemblies, nearly all County Supervisors, virtually every City Council, etc. etc. are concerned, dating back to the dawn of obscenity prosecutions.

IMO, the ONLY 'ally' the porn industry has in the U.S. government is the Court -- and not because the Court has any sort of favorable view of porn. It is because the Court has an expansive view of the scope of the First Amendment.... as it should, and as is consistent with the last 40 years of case law. :2 cents:

Vendzilla 01-13-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18685852)
I posted a morality in the media article how weak Clinton was on porn. Janet Reno thought going after adult porn was a waste of resources. if u look at history the right love fucking with porn.

Not all of them, one did a lot of good for us
http://www.ynot.com/content/117421-d...aved-porn.html

nation-x 01-13-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 18685498)
I think you mean "COPA" and "COPA II."

There was only one Communications Decency Act, and while the part of it that would have been most detrimental to the adult industry has been permanently enjoined by the court, the rest of the Act, including Section 230 (a rather important part of the immunity from liability enjoyed by ISPs/OSPs) is very much still in effect. :2 cents:

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