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Diomed 12-20-2011 07:09 PM

Question about using Wordpress for websites instead of blogs..
 
So if you decide to make a full fledged website in Wordpress instead of a blog that you update regularly, how will that effect SEO?

I'm under the impression that part of ranking well with SEO and blogs is the fact that you update them regularly with posts.. but if your using wordpress to make a stand alone website that you don't plan on updating regularly.. how will that effect rankings?

Anyone?

Much appreciation as always guys :thumbsup

AdultKing 12-20-2011 07:11 PM

Wordpress is good for creating websites as it offers a stable framework.

SEO considerations are the same as those with a blog. So long as your content is unique, of high quality, navigation is simple, then you'll be fine.

One benefit of using Wordpress as the basis of a website is that you can add supporting content easily in the form of posts which link to your main pages, thus increasing the chance people will find you through long tail keywords.

Handling members of a site is easy using plugins like Wishlist Member or Magic Members. You can also run your own affiliate program using Affiliat Royale or Magic Affiliate.

CyberHustler 12-20-2011 07:28 PM

Free your mind from this seo mumbo jumbo...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4RffhAER74...google-god.jpg

B.Barnato 12-20-2011 07:43 PM

Well google does not say "hey look this site is using wordpress, it must be a blog, update or else..."

I do have a site that ranks very well #1 for targeted 2 word phrase and #2 - #6 for single industry related words (in the German market,to be fair) using wordpress and headway. It has not been updated in at least a year.

candyflip 12-20-2011 07:47 PM

I love using theme frameworks like Headway, Thesis and Platform Pro for building simple static sites.

Diomed 12-20-2011 07:58 PM

Damn,

hell of informative.

I made this thread because I just became aware of Headway and Thesis.

For me, who is looking to make nice little web 2.0 sites and drop the endless amounts of money I spend on designers. I love them, but it's very hard to get exactly what I'm looking for.

It's a shame I'm just about to get started using Wordpress for the first time, I had no idea there was all this action.. head in the sand. Was using Blogger for my blogs because I assumed google favored them.

But Wordpress for perfect little web 2.0 sites is fucking ideal, I'm excited with the possibilities.

Anyways no need for me to rant,

just wanted to know if it was cool to use Wordpress for a still standing site that will not be getting updated frequently..

Thanks again guys!

Diomed 12-20-2011 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18643301)
Wordpress is good for creating websites as it offers a stable framework.

SEO considerations are the same as those with a blog. So long as your content is unique, of high quality, navigation is simple, then you'll be fine.

One benefit of using Wordpress as the basis of a website is that you can add supporting content easily in the form of posts which link to your main pages, thus increasing the chance people will find you through long tail keywords.

Handling members of a site is easy using plugins like Wishlist Member or Magic Members. You can also run your own affiliate program using Affiliat Royale or Magic Affiliate.


Yes,

I definitely focus on SEO the old fashion way.. being that I lack the SEO skills to do a ton of link trades and other little shortcuts, perhaps doing it organically will benefit me with the Panda updates in all.

No cookie cutter sites with me, all by the hand.

When you say long tailed keywords, how are those beneficial to target?

Also,

what is a solid foundation to go after one specific KW or phrase, if you had to just go for one. Where is a good place to start, and how long can you expect some results to take (I know it depends on the uniqueness of what kw's your after and competition, etc).

I have always done barely the basics with SEO, and have never ranked well for my sites (other than blogs) for any kw's other than the main theme of the site niche.

I myself personally am all about the pitch and traffic buys, all about the packaging and design, making it enticing as possible. I never learned SEO, I just think out the next man.

Meaning, I specialize in knowing what traffic to purchase, and how to make ultra converting landing pages/frontends. I am also guilty of over-hyping the product at times, which I'm not proud of. The benefit to this is, you don't have to know much coding and other detail oriented stuff, and if you push volume it's worth it, it's very short term thinking.. but I'm good at the creatives.

The negative is if you stop buying traffic you get zero sales, can't do rev share always pps, spend hell of money on designers, have to invest more money period, never rank well in seo because of the method I drive my traffic, etc.

So I've finally got some time to do things properly for once, and I'm starting with wordpress. I want long term organic sales, even if it's just a constant dribble of income instead of the larger dollars I get from the daily pitch.

raymor 12-21-2011 09:49 AM

That's true, Google likes fresh content, and that's why it likes blogs. A non-blog built using Wordpress is just like a non-blog built using anything else. The only difference, perhaps, are the limitations imposed by Wordpress. Using straight HTML, for example, you can put exactly the keywords you want in exactly the spot you want, and have exactly the keyword density you want, exactly the tags you want around links, etc. using Wordpress you lose some of that control.

stocktrader23 12-21-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18644423)
A non-blog built using Wordpress is just like a non-blog built using anything else.

This is not true at all. Part of what makes WordPress work so well in SE's is the fact that everything is interlinked correctly. Tags, categories, archives, rss, the works. A static site almost always does better on WordPress than it would on regular html pages.

AdultKing 12-21-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 18643379)

When you say long tailed keywords, how are those beneficial to target?

If you have dozens of posts/pages each targeting specific long tails you'll land more people on those pages gaining additional opportunities to bring people to your main pages.

So create your site, once you're happy with make posts targeting favourable long tail keywords and then link those posts to your main site pages.

As far as SEO goes, on page SEO and quality content should be the focus.

Create a twitter account for the site, tweet about the site and subjects relevant, build a following and people will visit your site. Same with Facebook, create a Facebook page for the site and interact with your audience.

Colmike9 12-21-2011 10:12 AM

Just wondering, would creating a sitemap with a less frequent frequency for those types of WP sites help?

stocktrader23 12-21-2011 10:13 AM

WordPress doesn't really need a sitemap, and why would it?

Colmike9 12-21-2011 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18644492)
WordPress doesn't really need a sitemap, and why would it?

Oh yeah...:(

stocktrader23 12-21-2011 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 18644498)
Oh yeah...:(

To clarify, I've never had a sitemap help a WordPress site and I have had some make them worse. Google knows every single page on WordPress unless you are doing something crazy with it.

fris 12-21-2011 10:22 AM

you cold use static html with a tiny php template engine, but i would rather go the wp route, its easy to make non blog sites, ive done it in the past, its rather easy to do.

this would be a custom theme though, not your average post list type theme.

just a punk 12-21-2011 10:23 AM

Use it as the engine for your sites.

leg4 12-21-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18643301)
Wordpress is good for creating websites as it offers a stable framework.

SEO considerations are the same as those with a blog. So long as your content is unique, of high quality, navigation is simple, then you'll be fine.

One benefit of using Wordpress as the basis of a website is that you can add supporting content easily in the form of posts which link to your main pages, thus increasing the chance people will find you through long tail keywords.

Handling members of a site is easy using plugins like Wishlist Member or Magic Members. You can also run your own affiliate program using Affiliat Royale or Magic Affiliate.

^^ Great business related post, thanks for your time.

Si 12-21-2011 11:03 AM

Don't be scared to use it. I haven't updated some of my blogs for 2 years and they still sit in the same positions on google and other SEs.

There is absolutely no problem with using wordpress as a standard website.

stocktrader23 12-21-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 18644523)
you cold use static html with a tiny php template engine, but i would rather go the wp route, its easy to make non blog sites, ive done it in the past, its rather easy to do.

this would be a custom theme though, not your average post list type theme.

Or you can just turn it to show 1 page at a time and interlink your other pages in the post content.

XXXInsights 12-21-2011 11:28 AM

I use wordpress for all my sites, even for simple landers. It's a great framework to build something fast, saves a ton of time

baddog 12-21-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18644504)
To clarify, I've never had a sitemap help a WordPress site and I have had some make them worse. Google knows every single page on WordPress unless you are doing something crazy with it.

hmmm, Google still seems to encourage their use.

just a punk 12-21-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18644532)
Use it as the engine for your sites.

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