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Hey Obama Haters...
I keep forgetting, which of your GOP retards is gonna beat Obama in 2012?
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
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It also got a war criminal reelected. |
Why do people think that if you don't approve of Obama's policies, you automatically favor the GOP?
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Obama did this with the internet, just like JFK was the first president to get elected off TV. people don't seem to remember that is was not a landslide vote for JFK and that Nikon came across poorly on the TV debates while on paper he came across as a more popular... the new media has allowed the the population to be accessed by 'hucksters' like never before ;) |
as soon as us progressives get complacent and assume another 4 years for Obama, Romney (or someone else) will step up and kick his teeth in. Be ever vigilant and critical about the opposition. Be assured they are of Obama
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"In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities effectively exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason." |
I know that video has nothing to do with this thread, but I wanted to put some music background so the guys should not be nervous:
http://www.eastafricantube.com/media...erres_Moi_bis/ |
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yes of course if you read and understood the book instead of cherry picking quotes that confirm your bias you would known he desires and argues for the opposite. that quote is an observation and a warning.
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Had to chime in because I can't stand the man in office right now. But no doubt the GOP has got a bunch a duds running. Should be interesting to see which shitty politician gets elected next time.
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I was thinking earlier this morning while I was fondling myself in the shower....
It seems that potential candidates climb their way to the top, only to be knocked down. Bachman, Perry, and now Cain. Next up is Newt. However, one guy seems to be constant - Mitt. That's my guess. |
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Have you any idea at how many people there are over 40 that post here. And more importantly pay your meager salary. Do you pay attention at all Richard? |
Im going to end up with no one to vote for is what i see
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Here we go again... "your side sucks, my side is great" vica versa.. round and round the wheels of ignorance turn.. while nothing gets done by any "side".
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I, like many other business owners here, don't really pay that much attention to the hundreds of posters on this board. However, you're one of the few who stand out. Sadly, its not for anything good. As far as I can tell, you're a job hopper jumping from low level job to low level job as each employer discovers your actual worth in this business. You take shots at potential future employers and equals to your current employer. This may make you a hero of the trolls here but it does nothing good for your future here. None of us think your shtick is interesting or intelligent. In fact, with every post you make, you decrease the likelihood that you'll continue to work in this business as you expose your deficient mind for all to see. If you look at the actions of those employees who've been employed long term, you'll note that NONE of them act the way you do. I know you think you're incredibly intelligent but that is just not born out by your station in life. You're one or two hops from your last stop here and if you don't carefully reconsider your actions and the way they're perceived, you'll end up as a 30something, out of work, porn slinger looking for work in a very tight mainstream job market. The only question will be whether or not you make a "I'm taking an opportunity in mainstream" post or simply disappear one day. but I'm sure you're way too smart to take advice from someone with my experience. you know better.:thumbsup |
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So, did anyone answer the original question?
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I think that, if Mitt Romney is the nominee, Obama is toast because some Democrats who are not happy with Obama will vote for Romney... believe it or not... flip flopping can be a great general election strategy... it has worked for every President in recent memory.
If the nominee is someone like Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, Perry or Gingrich... Obama will win. |
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any why the fuck do we keep starting these threads? we have better things to fight over. neither of these parties or candidates give a shit about us |
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You seem to think that everyone hates Obama because you do... that isn't true... I am not happy with how he pandered to Republicans... but he has accomplished A LOT in the last 3 years that every real Democrat supports. |
Obama got elected because after Bush anyone different and promising change would be guaranteed to win. It just so happens that he's also black. His speech is very articulate persuasive. Compare Obama's way of handling himself and speaking to the press/public to Bush and the difference is abominable.
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Job Losses from August 2008 to December 2009 - data: http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutput...=CES0500000001
August 2008: 84,000 - Unemployment Rate 6.2% September 2008: 159,000 October 2008: 240,000 November 2008: 533,000 December 2008: 524,000 January 2009: 598,000 February 2009: 651,000 March 2009: 663,000 April 2009: 539,000 May 2009: 345,000 June 2009: 467,000 July 2009: 247,000 August 2009: 216,000 September 2009: 263,000 October 2009: 190,000 November 2009: 11,000 December 2009: 85,000 - Unemployment rate 10% October 2011 - 8.3% |
Here is the reality... we have 2 parties right now, and one of them will win in 2012.
Does it suck? Of course, but it is what it is, at least as far as the 2012 elections go. So you have a few options... 1) vote D 2) vote R 3) vote for someone who doesn't have a chance 4) don't vote at all (same thing as number 3) So everyone can say there is no difference, and both parties are the same, etc... but in 2012 a president will get elected, and it will be a D or an R, so like it or not, that's where we are. So the question remains, who will the R's run against Obama, and what makes you think he or she stands a chance of beating him? |
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Traditionally, GOP candidates are simply the one who's "turn" it is to be candidate. That's sort of how they do things. You say things that the party wants for some time, not rocking the boat much, and your turn won't be forfeit. So it's Romney's turn.
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I will be the first one to admit I am not rich... but I am not an asshole either... and I would rather be a me than him. I sincerely doubt that anyone who shows such disrespect to people he doesn't know has that many great friends... he probably has a lot of associates and people who are trying to get something from him. I have a lot of rich friends... and none of them are assholes. I have made a lot of money at times in my life... I have made a lot of mistakes in my life... I have had a lot of business failures and some successes... I got right back up and moved on to the next thing... I will continue to do the same thing for as long as I live... move on to whatever is next... even if I end up wealthy... I will never put down anyone else because they aren't. Money doesn't make anyone better than anyone else... it just means they have more money. As long as my bills get paid on time every month, that defines success for me. Being here at home with my 5 year old daughter almost every day of her life defines success for me. |
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As much as Obama has been a complete and utter FAIL, none of the GOP candidates really excite me either. Ron Paul is looking better than before. There are things to likes about him. I had started to like Cain. He's very much not a typical politician, but he's said some dumb things lately. Given that we're all tired of the same old politicians and we're all tired of the FAIL that has been the last four years under Bush and Obama, I put the best odds on yhe guy who a) isn't a career politician and b) has actually successfully accomplished things. So Cain it is, though I'd like to see someone better. |
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I don't expect everyone to loathe what he does, I just love to hear the excuses from his loyal followers as to why things are the way they are today! And yes, the left is mad when he gave into some of the gop's demands, UM, democracy means he's suppose to do that, those GOP people represent part of the country that votes, many have forgotten that. Quote:
I admit it, can't stand the currrent administration, if we had a better democrat running, I would vote for them, I didn't like Barry since day one, more and more people are starting to agree with me. Everything else here is just discussion Although I'm waiting to see how far Cain gets, that could be fun! |
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Romney will not be the nominee. :2 cents:
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trolls like yourself think I'm an asshole because I've taken your measure and wasn't impressed by it. I really don't treat the unintelligent very kindly. Its a flaw I'm working on.:thumbsup |
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