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shimmy2 10-29-2011 06:07 AM

Camgirl hustle: streaming a girl on multiple cam sites Q/A
 
gonna do an cam experiment over the next few weeks. assuming bandwidth will not be an issue (have multiple ISPs in my home) i want to try running a camgirl on 3 sites at the same time with a triple monitor/cam setup to see which works best/pays best etc. if successful and feasible i would obviously duplicate it. just curious has anyone done this before or is 1 live camsite per girl the standard?

TheSquealer 10-29-2011 06:12 AM

You're the first one to ever think of this.

Game changer, my man.

It's a game changer.

I'll forever remember this day.

Barry-xlovecam 10-29-2011 06:19 AM

Compare the results split camming into 3 sites and working each site dedicated -- that might be a valid comparison.

Split camming into 3 websites and just paying partial attention to each versus giving each site your best attention -- that is a real comparison ...

Split camming (appearing on multiple sites) is the norm these days.

tical 10-29-2011 06:19 AM

Just make sure she knows to pause her video on the other sites when she gets a private or else she'll give away a free show and probably get a warning... most sites (as far as I know) don't like their models to be on multiple sites (even though a lot are). This is because it just causes complaints... models inadvertently ignore members because they're focused on another chat... sometimes people even jump into a private and the model is totally clueless.

Just make sure you keep an eye on that and you should be fine.

JOKER 10-29-2011 06:19 AM

manycam / splitcam :2 cents:

every cam chick out there is working multiple sites at the same time.

slapass 10-29-2011 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc. (Post 18523030)
manycam / splitcam :2 cents:

every cam chick out there is working multiple sites at the same time.

Quoted for truth.

LatinaCrazy 10-29-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18523010)
gonna do an cam experiment over the next few weeks. assuming bandwidth will not be an issue (have multiple ISPs in my home) i want to try running a camgirl on 3 sites at the same time with a triple monitor/cam setup to see which works best/pays best etc. if successful and feasible i would obviously duplicate it. just curious has anyone done this before or is 1 live camsite per girl the standard?

Ok, I am not sure if I am understanding you correctly. From what I read you are planning on working one girl on multiple sites at the same time.

This has been done for years, same ISP, same internet connection, same mode, same camera, same computer... It is called multi casting and is done with the use of cam splitting software.

It can be a very succesful model to use if it is done correctly, if it is not done correctly it is a total desaster.

In my opion done correctly would be a good Free chat site, and one or two direct chat sites. You could have 2 free chat sites and one direct site but the model would have to be very good at multi casting.. When the model hits 15 or 20% conversion on free site pull other sites o model will stop growing.. It is another consideration when the free site is also a cheap site.

Incorrectly is what many models do. they will work F4F, MFC, PVT, and another free chat site and maintain a 3% conversion, but are happy becuse they know no better.

Well that is my 2 cents..:2 cents:

I hope I understood your post.

RyuLion 10-29-2011 09:24 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

shimmy2 10-29-2011 11:45 AM

appreciate the inputs, sending out some icqs now

DWB 10-29-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaCrazy (Post 18523270)
When the model hits 15 or 20% conversion on free site pull other sites or model will stop growing.

How do you figure this?

Interesting full post btw. Solid info there.

TheSquealer 10-29-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18523860)
How do you figure this?

Interesting full post btw. Solid info there.

He/she means time online vs. time in private.

lazycash 10-29-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tical (Post 18523029)
Just make sure she knows to pause her video on the other sites when she gets a private or else she'll give away a free show and probably get a warning... most sites (as far as I know) don't like their models to be on multiple sites (even though a lot are). This is because it just causes complaints... models inadvertently ignore members because they're focused on another chat... sometimes people even jump into a private and the model is totally clueless.

Just make sure you keep an eye on that and you should be fine.

I've seen models who are very good at juggling multiple rooms and can really work the tips because of it. Also, a model can do a private on a site such as streamate or cams.com and leave it going on a site like MFC and pull in a ton of tips simultaneously. I'm not familiar with broadcaster policies these days, I know years ago some had rules against multi camming, but I think these days most know almost every girl is doing it.

DWB 10-29-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18523862)
He/she means time online vs. time in private.

I mean, why pull the other sites at that ratio?

TheSquealer 10-29-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18523898)
I mean, why pull the other sites at that ratio?

i think he's talking about the fact that a model has to be in private X% of her time online to make it worthwhile. For example, going back to simpler times and before working on multiple sites at time, a site like Claudia's (before she was kicked out of her biz) - www.camsathome.com - models might average 20-23% in private sessions. A super hot model that would do anything might be in privates 24% of the time, the average turd that was barely awake, 17% or something. There isn't a whole lot to do to be in private more if the traffic isn't there. If you threw your hottest girls on there with a 55 gallon drum of anal lube and a 20 foot container full of anal jackhammers and eye goggles and they couldn't do better than 15%.. then there is not enough traffic to do 20% or 25% in private no matter how great the models are.

That ratio is strongly indicative of traffic levels and prone to change as traffic levels change. As a model you either need your own repeat biz or you live and die by the site's traffic levels.

You can rough out how much traffic/revenue a site has by how many models are live... as that also indicates % of time in private for the average model.

helterskelter808 10-29-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18523028)
Split camming (appearing on multiple sites) is the norm these days.

It was the norm 5 years ago.

AmeliaG 10-29-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18523895)
I've seen models who are very good at juggling multiple rooms and can really work the tips because of it. Also, a model can do a private on a site such as streamate or cams.com and leave it going on a site like MFC and pull in a ton of tips simultaneously. I'm not familiar with broadcaster policies these days, I know years ago some had rules against multi camming, but I think these days most know almost every girl is doing it.

Interesting idea. I guess it would depend a bit on how chatty the private buyer was, whether it would be weird or rude or uncomfortable to do that way. But, if the private is mostly just performing what the buyer wants to see exactly, and then the free chatters on the other site can just see a hot show and tip, that is a nice double dip.

LatinaCrazy 10-29-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18523860)
Quote:

Originally Posted by LatinaCrazy (Post 18523270)
When the model hits 15 or 20% conversion on free site pull other sites o model will stop growing..

How do you figure this?

Interesting full post btw. Solid info there.

Conversion used to be time on line / time in pvt. Example girl works 360 minutes and earns a total of 68 minutes in pvt she would have a conversion of 68/360 = .1888 pr 18.89%

How ever now days the math is a little different Example girl works 360 minutes and earns 4,080 credits in pvt 1,500 credits in group, 2,300 credits in tip you would do the math like this. 4080 + 1500 + 2300 = 13,460 / 60 (assuming that there are 60 credits for each minute of standard pvt chat) = 224 minutes / 360 = .6231 or 62.31%

I am old fashioned but this is the best way for me to judge a performers real production.. Still cant get my head around credits per hour.

And btw thanks

lazycash 10-29-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 18523965)
Interesting idea. I guess it would depend a bit on how chatty the private buyer was, whether it would be weird or rude or uncomfortable to do that way. But, if the private is mostly just performing what the buyer wants to see exactly, and then the free chatters on the other site can just see a hot show and tip, that is a nice double dip.

I've seen a few girls on MFC that were clearly doing a private show and you could hear the guy on the other end of the private, who clearly had no idea his private conversation was being heard by a few hundred others.

epitome 10-29-2011 07:18 PM

Next you're going to tell us that you thought of filming girls naked and selling it to horny guys by DVD.

2MuchMark 10-30-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18523010)
gonna do an cam experiment over the next few weeks. assuming bandwidth will not be an issue (have multiple ISPs in my home) i want to try running a camgirl on 3 sites at the same time with a triple monitor/cam setup to see which works best/pays best etc. if successful and feasible i would obviously duplicate it. just curious has anyone done this before or is 1 live camsite per girl the standard?

This won't increase your sales much. The customers will see that she's on multiple sites, and her attention will be divided. As customers realize she's not really into them but more into just making money, they will lose interest and look for other models who can provide a more personal service.

ilnjscb 10-30-2011 12:26 PM

Rebecca Love had like 6 going the other night plus her own membership site

Just Alex 10-30-2011 12:30 PM

You are real visionary man.

AmeliaG 10-30-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18524211)
I've seen a few girls on MFC that were clearly doing a private show and you could hear the guy on the other end of the private, who clearly had no idea his private conversation was being heard by a few hundred others.


Wow, yeah, that would be my worry. I think, if someone is paying like five bucks a minute, he should get a bit more personal care and value.

I guess the technology might be tricky to have the sound off on the free site but on for the private. Is there software which just manages that? And, of course, tippers do like sound.


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