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stocktrader23 10-27-2011 06:32 PM

It may break the internet but new bill might finally end illegal tubes (in the USA?)
 
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter...1boDy&rd=1&t=3

[QUOTE]The rumors were true: The new Blacklist Bill could effectively destroy YouTube, Twitter, and other sites that rely on user-generated content by making the sites' owners legally responsible for content their users post.

It also includes provisions that would make it a felony to stream unlicensed content -- including cover band performances, karaoke videos, video game play-throughs, and more.

Time for a few here to hire some lobbyists. No idea what kind of support this has, just saw it.

:upsidedow

alias 10-27-2011 06:38 PM

Best to have permission before you stream anything.

bronco67 10-27-2011 06:41 PM

So this means they're going to arrest millions of people?

DBS.US 10-27-2011 06:43 PM

Never happen:2 cents:

FlexxAeon 10-27-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18520452)
So this means they're going to arrest millions of people?

no they just put the law in place and arrest a few as an example, to get everyone else scared. ex: 2257

blackmonsters 10-27-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18520452)
So this means they're going to arrest millions of people?

Did they arrest 60 million drugs users in America?

No.

Are people getting arrested and convicted for drugs?

Yes.

Did 100 million speeders get tickets?

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L-Pink 10-27-2011 07:11 PM

Should have been that way since day one.

hateman 10-27-2011 07:26 PM

nothing gonna happen

Viewfinder 10-27-2011 07:26 PM

Quote:

The new Blacklist Bill could effectively destroy YouTube, Twitter, and other sites that rely on user-generated content...
The president won't ever sign a law that would destroy Twitter :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 10-27-2011 07:28 PM

It's unconstitutionally overreaching -- if it passes as is the courts will strike it down.

It preempts lawful free speech e.g.; the twitter feeds ...

If it is narrowly constructed to prohibit the streaming of "copyrighted speech" and repealing the DMCA on copyrighted works -- it would fly -- the government has a responsibility to protect intellectual property rights.

L-Pink 10-27-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18520506)


If it is narrowly constructed to prohibit the streaming of "copyrighted speech" and repealing the DMCA on copyrighted works -- it would fly -- the government has a responsibility to protect intellectual property rights.

Not to mention the huge amount in taxes that is not collected on stolen content.

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Kelli58 10-27-2011 07:49 PM

They tried that before many years ago and it didn't work. I think they'll find to many legal loop holes and some judge will like last time find the law unconstitutional and move on.

oscer 10-27-2011 07:57 PM

They need to waste time somehow what better way then do something that doesn't help the country at all

L-Pink 10-27-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscer (Post 18520535)
They need to waste time somehow what better way then do something that doesn't help the country at all

Protecting intellectual property, the hundreds of millions in lost US profits and the taxes off those profits isn't important?

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blackmonsters 10-27-2011 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=stocktrader23;18520442]http://act.demandprogress.org/letter...1boDy&rd=1&t=3

Quote:

The rumors were true: The new Blacklist Bill could effectively destroy YouTube, Twitter, and other sites that rely on user-generated content by making the sites' owners legally responsible for content their users post.

It also includes provisions that would make it a felony to stream unlicensed content -- including cover band performances, karaoke videos, video game play-throughs, and more.

Time for a few here to hire some lobbyists. No idea what kind of support this has, just saw it.

:upsidedow

The only thing on that page is someone screaming "unfair unfair".

Why should it be legal for a cover band to put up youtube videos playing someone
else's music without permission? The original band can allow it if they want it.
Just ask. The cover band spends a week learning each song but they won't spend
5 minutes to make a form letter and mail it out for permission. Why?


It's wild how the same webmasters, who think they can broadcast anybody's music
and video they want for freedom of speech, will shit a brick if they think somebody
copied their website design. Why isn't that freedom of speech?
When's the last time someone filed a copyright for an HTML layout? :1orglaugh

bronco67 10-27-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18520506)
It's unconstitutionally overreaching -- if it passes as is the courts will strike it down.

It preempts lawful free speech e.g.; the twitter feeds ...

If it is narrowly constructed to prohibit the streaming of "copyrighted speech" and repealing the DMCA on copyrighted works -- it would fly -- the government has a responsibility to protect intellectual property rights.

I'm all for making an attempt to eliminate piracy, but it's so overreaching its not even funny. It's almost like cutting off your head to cure a runny nose. It's not even hyperbole to say it would destroy the internet.

L-Pink 10-27-2011 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=blackmonsters;18520556]
Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18520442)
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter...1boDy&rd=1&t=3




The only thing on that page is someone screaming "unfair unfair".

Why should it be legal for a cover band to put up youtube videos playing someone
else's music without permission? The original band can allow it if they want it.
Just ask. The cover band spends a week learning each song but they won't spend
5 minutes to make a form letter and mail it out for permission. Why?


It's wild how the same webmasters, who think they can broadcast anybody's music
and video they want for freedom of speech, will shit a brick if they think somebody
copied their website design. Why isn't that freedom of speech?
When's the last time someone filed a copyright for an HTML layout? :1orglaugh

And who gives a fuck if youtube loses most of their content and disappears. Someone will take their place and do so legally.

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zagi 10-27-2011 08:28 PM

http://savehosting.org/ a worthy cause

BIGTYMER 10-27-2011 08:32 PM

Google owns Obama. This bill doesn't have a chance in hell.

CyberHustler 10-27-2011 08:33 PM

:1orglaugh

JohnRingo 10-27-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18520453)
Never happen:2 cents:

bull shit

i found a site that last year was streaming a lot of live sports games... went to it this year and it had the confiscated by fbi jpg on the homepage just like the poker sites did...

you really think that you can fuck with biz business for very long before they cut your balls off?

if these porn producers get their shit together illegal tubes will vanish... only to be replaced by legal tubes run by the porn producers

Fob 10-27-2011 09:09 PM

omg, the tubes are going to be replaced with irc and newsgroups!

Phoenix 10-27-2011 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=L-Pink;18520569]
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18520556)

And who gives a fuck if youtube loses most of their content and disappears. Someone will take their place and do so legally.

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that is what im saying

we made a mainstream business to do just that...although not to compete with youtube, but you know get my slice of the pie

L-Pink 10-27-2011 09:47 PM

Hey thieves ... Adapt or die. Simple.

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BIGTYMER 10-27-2011 09:53 PM

P2P, File Lockers, Tor. Free content is not going anywhere.


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