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Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 06:49 PM

DSLR video of RILEE MARKS
 
Just a little edit I did today to show of some of my new DSLR shooting. I can shoot just about anything in this style now.

http://jayrockcontent.com/blog/flash/rilee1.jpg

fris 10-12-2011 06:55 PM

nice work

devilspost 10-12-2011 07:01 PM

you link is fucked up it has [URL] in it

devilspost 10-12-2011 07:02 PM

http://www.jayrockcontent.com/blog/?p=281

Robbie 10-12-2011 07:07 PM

It looks cool for what it is. I'm sure you already know the focus limitations. But there are some dedicated video cams that are out now that can do this AND keep good focus for doing hand held hardcore shooting.

I'm probably gonna get one of those this next year. :)

Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487367)
It looks cool for what it is. I'm sure you already know the focus limitations. But there are some dedicated video cams that are out now that can do this AND keep good focus for doing hand held hardcore shooting.

I'm probably gonna get one of those this next year. :)

Im going for very short depth of field on these shots. I can shoot and ISO 1250 and use F11 to shoot hardcore and it works well. You have to be good at focusing though and I have had a few months to practice and I am shooting all my scenes this way now. If you are thinking about getting into shooting DSLR and have any questions hit me up. I have already made most of the mistakes you can make and althought I was very leery about shooting sex scenes this way I now wont shoot any other way unless I am shooting POV of course :)

Pseudonymous 10-12-2011 07:30 PM

Looks great, I shot my entire new site coming out with one and it was definitely tough at first. I can see myself only wanting to shoot this way also. Keeping it focused was very tough at first and I did get better but still have a ways to go. I like the challenge though.

Good thing solo girl sites don't need high quality videos because it allowed me do alot of trial and error.

NaughtyRob 10-12-2011 07:33 PM

Looks great and she is the cutest thing going these days... but I just don't see how that looks any different that how it would be shot using a regular HD video camera.

Robbie 10-12-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18487406)
Looks great and she is the cutest thing going these days... but I just don't see how that looks any different that how it would be shot using a regular HD video camera.

Because it has depth of field. She is in focus and the background is not. Just like in "real" movies shot in Hollywood. That's probably the most desired effect in video (not film) shooting to try and get that film look.

Pseudonymous 10-12-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18487406)
Looks great and she is the cutest thing going these days... but I just don't see how that looks any different that how it would be shot using a regular HD video camera.

While im no expert yet, its the depth of field you can create with these 2.8 lenses, the beautiful bokeh too. This is high quality glass.

Robbie 10-12-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 18487409)
While im no expert yet, its the depth of field you can create with these 2.8 lenses, the beautiful bokeh too. This is high quality glass.

Well, you can sort of fake it with a video cam by opening it up all the way, zooming up all the way, and placing the girl in a position with the background far in the distance.

But to do what he is doing on that vid...you would need one of the DSLR's (like the Canon 5 Mk2?)

But the problem with shooting with a DSLR is keeping it in focus. Check out the vid on Naughty Americas new "Tonights Girlfriend" and you'll see what I'm talking about:
http://www.tonightsgirlfriend.com/in...alexisjohnn y

That's why I was saying that there are some new dedicated vid cams that can get that same effect without the focus issues that you can plainly see in that Naughty America vid.

Shedevils 10-12-2011 07:42 PM

Is this with 5D MKII?

Grapesoda 10-12-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487421)
That's why I was saying that there are some new dedicated vid cams that can get that same effect without the focus issues that you can plainly see in that Naughty America vid.

which cams?

Grapesoda 10-12-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487386)
Im going for very short depth of field on these shots. I can shoot and ISO 1250 and use F11 to shoot hardcore and it works well. You have to be good at focusing though and I have had a few months to practice and I am shooting all my scenes this way now. If you are thinking about getting into shooting DSLR and have any questions hit me up. I have already made most of the mistakes you can make and althought I was very leery about shooting sex scenes this way I now wont shoot any other way unless I am shooting POV of course :)

good job

Robbie 10-12-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18487425)
which cams?

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...0&displayTab=O

Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18487426)
good job

Thanks buddy I shot it with 2 5D Mark IIs with 70-200 2.8 L lenses.

ALL HANDHELD!!!!!!

Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 07:49 PM

Check it out in FULL HD

http:/jay-rock.com/twitter/rilee1.mp4

Pseudonymous 10-12-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487430)
Thanks buddy I shot it with 2 5D Mark IIs with 70-200 2.8 L lenses.

ALL HANDHELD!!!!!!

With image stabilizer on though, theres no way you could do that with something other than a trailer because you most likely wouldn't have music overlaying the sound that the image stabilizer creates.

That was an issue for me anyhow

NaughtyRob 10-12-2011 07:52 PM

Ah yes, that makes sense. I only get that effect when doing a video closeup of a girl fucking a toy and her face etc is blurred. :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487407)
Because it has depth of field. She is in focus and the background is not. Just like in "real" movies shot in Hollywood. That's probably the most desired effect in video (not film) shooting to try and get that film look.


Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 18487435)
With image stabilizer on though, theres no way you could do that with something other than a trailer because you most likely wouldn't have music overlaying the sound that the image stabilizer creates.

That was an issue for me anyhow

I got a Rode Video Mic Pro that is designed to work well with the 5D. The preamps on them are weird it takes a mic with a +DB setting to get a low signal to noise ratio. There is a +10 DB setting on this mic that works very well.

Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487428)

I had the AF100 and although I thought it was more practicle you didnt get the skin tones and depth that I wanted plus the color was very difficult to deal with. I sold my AF100 and I still have like $4000 worth of lenses I need to sell. I will stick with 2 5Ds for now and use the good shotgun mics. Seperate audio is way too much of a pain. With these clips I wasn't going for the natural audio that would be pretty boring but hey its softcore LOL

icymelon 10-12-2011 08:14 PM

I tested out a few DSLR cameras that was a kit and came with a lens. You don't get much depth of field with the standard lens that those kits come with. Have you tried anything something similar to a prime. Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Camera Lens probably wouldn't work for handheld.

dgraves 10-12-2011 08:14 PM

nice video!

you can create this same affect with a standard video camera that has a face detection/tracking feature. i use a Canon Vixia HF S200 and when i want to create this affect i just touch the screen where the subject is and it will blur the background. if something comes into the background that i want to focus on, i just touch the screen where the subject is and it comes into focus and blurs out the first (closer) subject.

JimmyStephans 10-12-2011 08:17 PM

That, I like alot!

Good work.

Robbie 10-12-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487456)
I had the AF100 and although I thought it was more practicle you didnt get the skin tones and depth that I wanted plus the color was very difficult to deal with.

Interesting. I've never used one so I can't comment.

But I did read that there are some more vid cams coming out in the next year that also are able to do this. That AF100 sure looks good for the price...but from what you're saying it might be wise to wait a few months for some newer ones to come out.

I think it's going to be the next "standard" with vid cams and by this time next year all of them will have that capability.

candyflip 10-12-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487428)

Sony's competing product is quite nice.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-bro...ct-NEXFS100UK/

Jay-Rock 10-12-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18487514)
Sony's competing product is quite nice.

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-bro...ct-NEXFS100UK/

Thats fucking nice !

candyflip 10-12-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487531)
Thats fucking nice !

They've got custom mounts for pretty much any lens you might have to put on them. Including you current stash.

I'm getting mine in January from my school.

Canon will also have a competing camera in this market soon. There will be an announcement in November.

twinkpay 10-12-2011 08:58 PM

We've used 2 hacked Panasonic GH1 with 20mm F1.7 for the last 6 months or so. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities where you can film guerilla style in quite dark locations and yet get great video with beautiful bokeh. The GH2 is supposed to be even better.

Pseudonymous 10-12-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487444)
I got a Rode Video Mic Pro that is designed to work well with the 5D. The preamps on them are weird it takes a mic with a +DB setting to get a low signal to noise ratio. There is a +10 DB setting on this mic that works very well.

Ahh, great :) I got to look into that

rock-reed 10-12-2011 11:44 PM

It's all about the Bokeh baby, 2 loked out niggaz going crazy.

EukerVoorn 10-13-2011 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 18487435)
With image stabilizer on though, theres no way you could do that with something other than a trailer because you most likely wouldn't have music overlaying the sound that the image stabilizer creates.

Use an external audio recorder like the Tascam DR100 and keep your XLR mikes off the cam, there is software to synchronize video and audio on the timeline in Mac and PC edit applications or sync manually, it's quite easy.

EukerVoorn 10-13-2011 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487456)
I had the AF100 and although I thought it was more practicle you didnt get the skin tones and depth that I wanted plus the color was very difficult to deal with. I sold my AF100 and I still have like $4000 worth of lenses I need to sell. I will stick with 2 5Ds for now and use the good shotgun mics. Seperate audio is way too much of a pain. With these clips I wasn't going for the natural audio that would be pretty boring but hey its softcore LOL

Hey Jay high-five man, I also had the AF100 for a while and not happy with it either and sold it again after a few months. Apart from the colors I found the image a bit blurry, the only thing I liked was the crankup to 60fps to create awesome slow motion. I'm now using two GH2s and from time to time a Canon 7D. I prefer the 7D look (apart from the moire problem) but find the GH2 much more practical to work with. Also the GH2 was hacked, it's now possible to record 66MB/s or higher, terminating h264 compression artifacts.

EukerVoorn 10-13-2011 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487484)
Interesting. I've never used one so I can't comment.

But I did read that there are some more vid cams coming out in the next year that also are able to do this. That AF100 sure looks good for the price...but from what you're saying it might be wise to wait a few months for some newer ones to come out.

I think it's going to be the next "standard" with vid cams and by this time next year all of them will have that capability.

Robbie what are you talking about, "auto focus" or "auto follow focus"? You really don't want to use any automatic focus on these cams, in the current HD consumer cams you have things like face locking focus but what if you want to keep the pussy in focus and have the face blurred? Are you saying that Panasonic and Sony are going to release DSLR video cams with "pussy locking focus"? Will they have pussy recognition as well? :1orglaugh

Ok I'm trying to be funny again, I shouldn't do that... please enlighten me on what cams you're talking about rocker!

yuu.design 10-13-2011 07:50 AM

wow, she looks so fucking good

Sophie Delancey 10-13-2011 09:22 AM

Very nice! Shallow DOF is where it's at!

usnuke 10-13-2011 10:27 AM

Looks great Jay ! She's a Looker :)

SmutHammer 10-13-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487334)
Just a little edit I did today to show of some of my new DSLR shooting. I can shoot just about anything in this style now.

http://jayrockcontent.com/blog/flash/rilee1.jpg

looks good man, I also shoot with a dslr, mine is a canon eos 7d with L-series glass, any pointers you can give would be much apreciated! here are a few sample ones one one of my sites.

http://www.lilcandy.com/tour3/videosample.php

tony286 10-13-2011 10:49 AM

I heard canon is supposed to coming out a video camera this year.That takes different lens.

EukerVoorn 10-13-2011 11:02 AM

I've been hoping for Canon to come with a video cam like this for a very long time, can't wait, my cock is already leaking forejuices now.

JohnE 10-13-2011 12:21 PM

Beautiful work!

tony286 10-13-2011 12:23 PM

just got this is my email box
http://nofilmschool.com/2011/10/pana...oFilmSchool%29
Panasonic GH2 Hacked Further, Now Records to Advanced 176Mbit Codec

EukerVoorn 10-13-2011 12:26 PM

With that hack it's going to compete with the Red cams :) I haven't tried the hack yet but will soon.

Jay-Rock 10-13-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18489014)
With that hack it's going to compete with the Red cams :) I haven't tried the hack yet but will soon.

No way the 4/3 sensor can do that it has limitations. Doesnt matter over 25mbps for internet anyways. The most people are streaming is 10mbps on the norm and thats a bit overkill for internet viewing. If you are selling this shit on Blue Ray then maybe then it matters a little but the better sensor will always win. :2 cents:

Grapesoda 10-13-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18487428)

this kills what you have in mind as far as focus and movemet:

'utilize an array of low-cost, widely-available still camera lenses as well as film-style lenses with fixed focal lengths, prime lenses, and zoom lenses.'

the issue is dslr lenses don't have the servos needed to track focus for video... and I know this because..... spent a few hours down at the vendor that sells these as well as other cameras to cinnimatographers... BECAUSE I was intersted in the Sony fs100... and they quoted me about 35K+/- to get the fs100 to oporate as an eng camera which is basically what 'we' use to shoot video... the dslr's and fs100 and pannys are 'single' cam shooters with pulling focus and editing. basically for scripted wotk, which isn't what gonzo porn is...

ask ma dalton how he doing with his fs100 set up...

EukerVoorn 10-14-2011 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18489171)
No way the 4/3 sensor can do that it has limitations. Doesnt matter over 25mbps for internet anyways. The most people are streaming is 10mbps on the norm and thats a bit overkill for internet viewing. If you are selling this shit on Blue Ray then maybe then it matters a little but the better sensor will always win. :2 cents:

The 4/3 sensor isn't that much smaller as a Red s35 sensor... but of course the image processing in the Red is much better.

And I agree that 60mbs is overkill for the web today but with everything I shoot I keep the future in mind. I'm now streaming my full HD videos at 960 x 540 resolution and in 2 years I will start adding them in full HD resolution so past members have a reason to return. Then who knows what's possible in 5 years from now? It would make sense to start shooting in the new 4K resolution, stream now in HD of full HD and stream again in full resolution in a few years from now. And I may start doing Blu Ray DVDs.

The camera on top of my wish list is the Arri Alexa by the way. Check out samples on www.vimeo.com is is awesome and has the best light dynamic range imaginable.

SCOOTER 10-14-2011 05:03 AM

Very nice work Jay !!!

EukerVoorn 10-14-2011 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18489201)
this kills what you have in mind as far as focus and movemet:

'utilize an array of low-cost, widely-available still camera lenses as well as film-style lenses with fixed focal lengths, prime lenses, and zoom lenses.'

the issue is dslr lenses don't have the servos needed to track focus for video... and I know this because..... spent a few hours down at the vendor that sells these as well as other cameras to cinnimatographers...

I don't know if what you call track focus is the same as auto focus, but the AF100 does have auto-focus in combination with Limux lenses that have a built in focus motor for example the 14-140mm zoom and the 12mm and 20mm pancakes. I only use it as push focus though so don't know how it performs in continiously auto-focus but you can set the focus area on your LCD screen and I slighty remember that the AF100 has face focus tracking but I never used this so I'm not sure.

Basically the AF100 is a great cam, apart from its image. The biggest problem is the electronic noise, you have to put sharpness back to -7 and crush your blacks to get rid of that. That's another reason for me to chose for the GH2, there is much less noise even if the blacks aren't hitting zero.

TheDA 10-14-2011 05:40 AM

Nice. Where do you get your music clips from?

DeanCapture 10-14-2011 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 18487334)
Just a little edit I did today.....

Beautiful footage there JR :thumbsup


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