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BFT3K 10-11-2011 08:21 AM

7 Lies About the Economy, Debunked in Under 3 Minutes
 


https://youtube.com/watch?v=mM5Ep9fS7Z0

Gouge 10-11-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18483617)

BFT3K is still stuck on stupid :1orglaugh


devilspost 10-11-2011 08:30 AM

Don't punish the job creators ;)

12clicks 10-11-2011 08:31 AM

:1orglaugh

potter 10-11-2011 08:31 AM

That's not debunking. I mean, I agree with a few of the points he made - but they weren't all facts. A lot of what he said was opinion.

To debunk something you have to actually have to prove how it's wrong. Not point out a mostly relative event in history that correlates to your point.

Here, this is basically what he does. Ok, this is EXACTLY what he does.
http://statfail.com/wp-content/uploa...pirates_gw.png

He wants to make a point about global warming, he wants to debunk that global warming is caused by (insert something here). So, he takes a relevant point about history to coincide with his point. He says that "Look! As we've gone through history there are less pirates in the world while the average global temperature has increased. Therefore global warming is caused by having less pirates".

He doesn't actually debunk a damn thing. He just gives you a relevant piece of information that coincides with his side and opinion.

Come on man, this isn't rocket science to understand. Don't be so fucking gullible.

MaxCandy 10-11-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18483617)


very cool

seeandsee 10-11-2011 08:37 AM

he did prove nothing :) maybe few are ok

mafia_man 10-11-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18483637)
BFT3K is still stuck on stupid :1orglaugh


http://www.dmnews.com/fortune-top-50...article/91908/

So we could pay multiple times over with just corporate revenue.

devilspost 10-11-2011 09:17 AM

Hi, im biwwy wittle when i was a whittle boy i watched marwie poppinz

Gouge 10-11-2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18483741)
http://www.dmnews.com/fortune-top-50...article/91908/

So we could pay multiple times over with just corporate revenue.

Are you still living in 2006?

vsex 10-11-2011 10:36 AM

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...eubWhbm4e9Fijw

DWB 10-11-2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18483645)
That's not debunking. I mean, I agree with a few of the points he made - but they weren't all facts. A lot of what he said was opinion.

To debunk something you have to actually have to prove how it's wrong. Not point out a mostly relative event in history that correlates to your point.

Here, this is basically what he does. Ok, this is EXACTLY what he does.
http://statfail.com/wp-content/uploa...pirates_gw.png

He wants to make a point about global warming, he wants to debunk that global warming is caused by (insert something here). So, he takes a relevant point about history to coincide with his point. He says that "Look! As we've gone through history there are less pirates in the world while the average global temperature has increased. Therefore global warming is caused by having less pirates".

He doesn't actually debunk a damn thing. He just gives you a relevant piece of information that coincides with his side and opinion.

Come on man, this isn't rocket science to understand. Don't be so fucking gullible.

I can't argue your graph. Looks right to me.

raymor 10-11-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18483645)
That's not debunking. I mean, I agree with a few of the points he made - but they weren't all facts. A lot of what he said was opinion.

To debunk something you have to actually have to prove how it's wrong. Not point out a mostly relative event in history that correlates to your point.

Here, this is basically what he does. Ok, this is EXACTLY what he does.
http://statfail.com/wp-content/uploa...pirates_gw.png

He wants to make a point about global warming, he wants to debunk that global warming is caused by (insert something here). So, he takes a relevant point about history to coincide with his point. He says that "Look! As we've gone through history there are less pirates in the world while the average global temperature has increased. Therefore global warming is caused by having less pirates".

He doesn't actually debunk a damn thing. He just gives you a relevant piece of information that coincides with his side and opinion.

Come on man, this isn't rocket science to understand. Don't be so fucking gullible.

The pirates and global warming graph is an excellent illustration of a very common tactic. Combined with picking dates for comparison carefully and using words like "stagnated" to imply something went bad when it fact it didn't change at all, someone can make it look like the economic problems are caused by raisins.

One has to apply some common sense and ask themselves "is spending twice as much as you take in most likely going to improve your situation, or make you go bankrupt?" Simple common sense thinking cuts through the charts comparing unemployment in 1964 to the color of shoes and other irrelevant BS.

12clicks 10-11-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18484064)
The pirates and global warming graph is an excellent illustration of a very common tactic. Combined with picking dates for comparison carefully and using words like "stagnated" to imply something went bad when it fact it didn't change at all, someone can make it look like the economic problems are caused by raisins.

One has to apply some common sense and ask themselves "is spending twice as much as you take in most likely going to improve your situation, or make you go bankrupt?" Simple common sense thinking cuts through the charts comparing unemployment in 1964 to the color of shoes and other irrelevant BS.

exactly right.
Just like the use of the 70% top tax rate is bogus. The loop holes available to the top tier are all gone for the most part.
They also conveniently leave out the fact that the bottom contributed back then too. There was none of this bottom 50% paying no income tax nonsense.

Tempest 10-11-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18483637)

This is one of the most moronic videos I've ever seen...

MediaGuy 10-11-2011 02:11 PM

Actually you can research the OP's video and confirm everything.

Why does everyone believe the GOP who just wants to protect the top 1% ???

Anyway, I'm Canadian so I'm a full of shit communist...

:D

GatorB 10-11-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 18483659)
he did prove nothing :) maybe few are ok

He proved a lot. It's simple. Trickle down economic has bene around for 30 years. If it wroked wher are the results? I think 30 years is more than enough time to get results.

GW Bush cut taxes on the rich. Supposedly this creates jobs. Why is unemployment 9.1%? Where are the jobs?

MediaGuy 10-11-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18484558)
He proved a lot. It's simple. Trickle down economic has bene around for 30 years. If it wroked wher are the results? I think 30 years is more than enough time to get results.

GW Bush cut taxes on the rich. Supposedly this creates jobs. Why is unemployment 9.1%? Where are the jobs?

Forget that - remember Reaganomics, where it all started...

:D

Cherry7 10-11-2011 02:46 PM

capitalism works - for the rich.

For the those with capital, other wise it would be called workerism .

nation-x 10-11-2011 03:13 PM

rabble rabble rabble

12clicks 10-11-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18484579)
capitalism works - for the rich.

For the those with capital, other wise it would be called workerism .

Odd that our richest are mostly self made from the middle class.
It's ok to be bitter about your failures but to pretend it's capitalism's fault is silly.
You simply didn't make good decisions nor did you work hard enough

DudeRick 10-11-2011 04:15 PM

What a moroon! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18483617)


Bill8 10-11-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18484106)
There was none of this bottom 50% paying no income tax nonsense.

You do realize that's an artifact of tax cutting, right?

There's a simple solution - raise the taxes on everyone - we started these wars, we dug ourselves into this economic shithole, we all have to pay for it.

Then you right wingers can stop your pathetic whining about how poor people dont pay income taxes.

Bill8 10-11-2011 06:10 PM

So, does anyone have criticisms of the actual points Reich makes?

Instead of this lameass partisan propaganda exchange?

I know we cant expect the right to actually discuss ideas, but if we hear their fox news narratives, it might be interesting to look at the numbers and see if there's any truth to them.

12clicks 10-11-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 18485006)
You do realize that's an artifact of tax cutting, right?

There's a simple solution - raise the taxes on everyone - we started these wars, we dug ourselves into this economic shithole, we all have to pay for it.

Then you right wingers can stop your pathetic whining about how poor people dont pay income taxes.

Hi loser.
I'm all for ALL of us paying taxes. Then scum like you, who pay almost nothing, just might stop voting for every idiot spending bill that comes down the pike, knowing it will cost YOU more and not just your betters.

Robbie 10-11-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 18485006)
we started these wars

Who is "we"?

The U.S. govt. has done all this stupid shit in it's grab for power. Occupying a couple of hundred countries world wide with troops (still occupying Japan and Germany almost 70 years after WW2)

We citizens didn't do any of that shit. It's the politicians in Washington D.C. that are responsible. Not me, not you, not "rich" people, and not even corporations (the current scapegoat). It was congressmen and Senators who have been setting the table for decades now.

Bush? Obama? LOL! Senators and Congressmen who are career politicians don't even give them a second thought. Remember....Congress made sure to place term limits on Presidents after Roosevelt. But there are NO term limits for Congress and The Senate.

The same crooks are running the show now in the Senate and Congress that ran it during Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and now Obama. Well, except the ones who died of old age.

We need to VOTE THEM ALL OUT. One term and DONE.

keysync 10-11-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18485057)
We need to VOTE THEM ALL OUT. One term and DONE.

Damn Right!

The Demon 10-11-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 18485006)
You do realize that's an artifact of tax cutting, right?

There's a simple solution - raise the taxes on everyone - we started these wars, we dug ourselves into this economic shithole, we all have to pay for it.

Then you right wingers can stop your pathetic whining about how poor people dont pay income taxes.

And you idiotic left wingers can stop blaming everybody else for your fuckups.

Quote:

I know we cant expect the left to actually discuss ideas, but if we hear their CNN narratives, it might be interesting to look at the numbers and see if there's any truth to them.
Fixed for the exact same idiotic meaning. Still pretending to be objective or is this your way of showing your brain on drugs?


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