GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   PayPal now asking for your Tax Info. Seems those wars are strating to cost! (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1040927)

pornguy 10-07-2011 10:59 AM

PayPal now asking for your Tax Info. Seems those wars are strating to cost!
 
Now Paypal is asking for Tax ID info.. I guess the wars are catching up and they want the money.

Lots of people are going to get slammed this way.

seeandsee 10-07-2011 11:02 AM

US tax system probably want to know that...

onedree 10-07-2011 11:03 AM

To launch a new account ... ?

I just logged on and wasn't advised to supply any additional financial info ...
They do have my banking #'s so perhaps that is why ... :)

MaDalton 10-07-2011 11:04 AM

whoever thought that Paypal is a safe way for tax evasion until now was wrong anyways

pornguy 10-07-2011 11:04 AM

It came up when we logged in. Are you in the US? Not sure whats going on with it.

pornguy 10-07-2011 11:05 AM

paypal.com/irs

https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/ma...ng_us/IRS6050W

Some of you wont have to worry about it as you are not moving enough.

onedree 10-07-2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18475721)
It came up when we logged in. Are you in the US? Not sure whats going on with it.

I reside the US ...
I have been associated with Pay Pal and E-Bay for many many years now ...

I just logged on and my limits are still approved ... :)

cherrylula 10-07-2011 11:14 AM

Only if you do 20k or more in a year...

But this is no surprise? Who the hell is dumb enough to hide paypal revenue?

pornguy 10-07-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18475742)
I reside the US ...
I have been associated with Pay Pal and E-Bay for many many years now ...

I just logged on and my limits are still approved ... :)

Did you see the link to the IRS page? You have to do X $ in sales or transactions.

Might be that you have not hit the limit this year.

AzteK 10-07-2011 11:18 AM

I pay taxes on my Paypal anyways. It doesn't matter.

pornguy 10-07-2011 11:20 AM

We pay on over all income as well so it wont effect us but I know a lot of people use them like Epass.

topsiteking 10-07-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18475751)
Only if you do 20k or more in a year...

But this is no surprise? Who the hell is dumb enough to hide paypal revenue?

Never was an issue.
But,I never was receiving "over $20,000 in gross payment volume AND over 200 payments"

96ukssob 10-07-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18475704)
Now Paypal is asking for Tax ID info.. I guess the wars are catching up and they want the money.

Lots of people are going to get slammed this way.

paypal is a great way to launder money. people selling goods and services all day long and there is no records that get sent to the IRS. I have friends that only do business on paypal and make $100k+ but only report they make about $15,000 a year in taxes :1orglaugh

DWB 10-07-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18475771)
We pay on over all income as well so it wont effect us but I know a lot of people use them like Epass.

Can't you file for Foreign Income Exclusion? Get over 90k tax break.

blackmonsters 10-07-2011 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18475819)
paypal is a great way to launder money. people selling goods and services all day long and there is no records that get sent to the IRS. I have friends that only do business on paypal and make $100k+ but only report they make about $15,000 a year in taxes :1orglaugh

That's only the same as running a pizza place and throwing out the cash register
receipts.

So it's not like paypal has some kind of system that is helping people hide money more
than any other business.

pornguy 10-07-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18475835)
Can't you file for Foreign Income Exclusion? Get over 90k tax break.

No the money has to be earned OUTside the US. What we do earn from outside is excluded.

cherrylula 10-07-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18475819)
paypal is a great way to launder money. people selling goods and services all day long and there is no records that get sent to the IRS. I have friends that only do business on paypal and make $100k+ but only report they make about $15,000 a year in taxes :1orglaugh

Not anymore! :1orglaugh

IllTestYourGirls 10-07-2011 12:14 PM

// edit, nevermind, I don't do 200 payments a year.

porno jew 10-07-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18475819)
paypal is a great way to launder money. people selling goods and services all day long and there is no records that get sent to the IRS. I have friends that only do business on paypal and make $100k+ but only report they make about $15,000 a year in taxes :1orglaugh

that is stupid. paypal would hand over that info in a heartbeat if asked by the irs, like ebay did to revenue canada for all canadian power sellers.

Chris 10-07-2011 12:36 PM

they told everyone about that a few years ago when the laws changed that this coming up tax season it would apply

onedree 10-07-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18475752)
Did you see the link to the IRS page? You have to do X $ in sales or transactions.

Might be that you have not hit the limit this year.

Yes I fully understand ... I exhaust a considerable amount of finances through Ebay / Pay Pal ...

Eg :

Purchased my Boehm Ram
( http://boehmporcelain.com/ )
Extremely expensive ...

I purchased this peice for $500.00 from E-Bay and it is estimated at around $3500.00
...

http://i.imgur.com/wK5sg.jpg

Not to mention the antique Brunswick radio it is sitting on for $300.00
(Est value $700.00)

So I am not to sure of additional tax info that is needed on individuals that are very well established with pay Pal ...

Eyeball 10-07-2011 01:20 PM

If only Paxum/payoneer and other evasion methods were forced to comply.

Barry-xlovecam 10-07-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/...03/abu0258/s03
IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions

Providing Your Tax ID Number to Processors
Merchants will have to provide their federal tax identification numbers to the companies processing their transactions. If they fail to do so, they may become subject to "backup withholding," which means these companies will have to deduct and withhold income tax from reportable payments. Backup withholding won't go into effect until 2012.
Makes sense but unknown source

pornguy 10-07-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18476000)
Yes I fully understand ... I exhaust a considerable amount of finances through Ebay / Pay Pal ...

Eg :

Purchased my Boehm Ram
( http://boehmporcelain.com/ )
Extremely expensive ...

I purchased this peice for $500.00 from E-Bay and it is estimated at around $3500.00
...

http://i.imgur.com/wK5sg.jpg

Not to mention the antique Brunswick radio it is sitting on for $300.00
(Est value $700.00)

So I am not to sure of additional tax info that is needed on individuals that are very well established with pay Pal ...



Its not because if what you BOUGHT. Its what you sold. Income. Not outgo.

INever 10-07-2011 02:18 PM

At the end of last year it was announce that all 2011 US income at paypal will generate a 1099 report to the IRS.

Barefootsies 10-07-2011 02:20 PM

None of this is "news".

The law in regards to the 'paypal' (and alike) services was changed at least two years ago, and set to go into effect this year. Your accountant, or CPA should have advised you of this already as going into effect in 2011.

:2 cents:

signupdamnit 10-07-2011 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18475819)
paypal is a great way to launder money. people selling goods and services all day long and there is no records that get sent to the IRS. I have friends that only do business on paypal and make $100k+ but only report they make about $15,000 a year in taxes :1orglaugh

I hope they have fun when the IRS gets their Paypal records for the last ten years and threatens them with prison time and back taxes and penalties of $500,000.

famous 10-07-2011 03:56 PM

I pay my taxes so this is nothing new for me :) Instead of "other income" it will now have a official name ;) Pay your taxes honest and you sleep better at night hehe

onedree 10-07-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18476104)
Its not because if what you BOUGHT. Its what you sold. Income. Not outgo.

Oh okay ... well then I am safe ... I do not sell items on E-Bay only purchase ...
But
I do have a least $1400.00 on account ...

Quote:

Last log in October 7, 2011 11:01 AM PDT

* Account Type: Personal Upgrade
* Status: Verified
* Account Limits: View Limits

* PayPal balance: $1400.09 USD

* My recent activity
* Payments received
* Payments sent

Should I pull these funds and only add in the event of a purchase ?
or just leave as it is ?

V_RocKs 10-07-2011 04:24 PM

I like trying to explain to the IRS guys about sending $100 paxum to someone and receiving $100 on paypal is not making income on my part..

EukerVoorn 10-07-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18475719)
whoever thought that Paypal is a safe way for tax evasion until now was wrong anyways

There's only one safe way for that and that's cash :1orglaugh

u-Bob 10-07-2011 05:34 PM

I hate taxes, but I still pay them and declare all of my paypal, paxum, okpay etc income.

If you don't, those guys can make your life a living hell...

u-Bob 10-07-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18475967)
they told everyone about that a few years ago when the laws changed that this coming up tax season it would apply

what he said.

DBS.US 10-07-2011 05:49 PM

$20,000 USD in gross payment volume from sales of goods or services in a single year
200 payments for goods or services in the same year

Ron Bennett 10-07-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18476583)
$20,000 USD in gross payment volume from sales of goods or services in a single year
200 payments for goods or services in the same year

Yep. And to emphasize, BOTH those above thresholds must be met ... $20K payments AND 200 transactions.

Very few PayPal users do that much in gross sales and volume in the same year.

onedree- no need to withdraw. It wouldn't help anyways in regards to the reporting requirements.

In the fine-print, all PayPal payments for goods and services, both on and off eBay, count, including, if my understanding is correct, even those payments later refunded / credited back. As for personal payments, those supposedly aren't counted towards the thresholds, but it may be PayPal's discretion in edge cases.

Ron

Choker 10-07-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett (Post 18476689)
Yep. And to emphasize, BOTH those above thresholds must be met ... $20K payments AND 200 transactions.

Very few PayPal users do that much in gross sales and volume in the same year.

onedree- no need to withdraw. It wouldn't help anyways in regards to the reporting requirements.

In the fine-print, all PayPal payments for goods and services, both on and off eBay, count, including, if my understanding is correct, even those payments later refunded / credited back. As for personal payments, those supposedly aren't counted towards the thresholds, but it may be PayPal's discretion in edge cases.

Ron

I thought thier email said either or. In any case anyone who does not report their paypal earnings to the IRS is asking for trouble anyway. People who do not pay taxes have a unfair advantage over people who do.

Coup 10-07-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18476000)
Yes I fully understand ... I exhaust a considerable amount of finances through Ebay / Pay Pal ...

Eg :

Purchased my Boehm Ram
( http://boehmporcelain.com/ )
Extremely expensive ...

I purchased this peice for $500.00 from E-Bay and it is estimated at around $3500.00
...

http://i.imgur.com/wK5sg.jpg

Not to mention the antique Brunswick radio it is sitting on for $300.00
(Est value $700.00)

So I am not to sure of additional tax info that is needed on individuals that are very well established with pay Pal ...

Nice home decor. I'm sure your grandkids get a real hoot outta that ram.

GAMEFINEST 10-07-2011 09:30 PM

if its over 20 k or 200 transactions, paypal will automaticaly ask you..

Ron Bennett 10-07-2011 10:15 PM

It's not OR, it's AND ...

"Applies to sellers receiving over $20,000 in gross payment volume AND over 200 payments"

https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/ma...ng_us/IRS6050W

When reading the first section "What is Internal Revenue Code (IRC) Section 6050W?" note the word both ... some people see the thresholds bullet points and assume each are separate - no, both thresholds must be met ... $20K AND 200 transactions.

Ron


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123