First casualties of Manwin buying out Twistys?
 

Old time sites http://picwarehouse.com/, http://bigbreastlovers.com/ gone and converted to some crap sites that, at least with my limited testing, just send you off elsewhere... Old style CJ.. Those sites had great bookmark traffic and they loved to pull out their credit cards and buy porn.

Course, I don't know if those sites were actually part of the deal or not but it's a sad day seeing this.

looks like someone else bought them?

trade traffic goes to http://www.rawgonzo.com/trade.php

think it's the same people that bough mike bike's network and turned them in to skim tubes like these.

have they changed thumbzilla ...?

Not yet... but when you enter Thumbzilla there's a popup to sextube... Shap's old sexape.com redirects to sextube as well.

.... oh.. sextube was Shap's anyways...

thats too bad...another good trade down the tubes....

thumbzilla still the same.

i doubt you have any idea what a old school cj is i clicked 5 thumbs got 5 vids.

Literally :Oh crap

Yeah, as I said, I did some "limited" testing and was just getting other trade sites.. but when I looked again I found it was sending off to other sites video pages.. They don't seem to have any of their own content.

Shap used to send us a ton of traffic from bigbreastlovers.com

Damn. Didn't know he sold his sites. Maybe that's why I haven't heard back from him.

Ahhh the good ole days :thumbsup

wow thats a dumb move, those sites traffic were/are gold, always converted well.

and loads of bookmarkers.

looks like exxtra

It's all about roi. They did the same to trannytube and i wouldn't be surprised if they did it to sextube soon too

Gotta make back the money they paid Shap, its all about maximizing their dollars :)
WG

so manwin owns them or no? looks like someone is managing their trades.

Adapt or die. Stand up guys. Signs of the times. There is no money in porn. Congrats to the winners. Money in motion. Pibcash. iBill. Epassporte. Middle Men. How does the hun make money? Bros. Pete shishkabbab

funny as i suspect (pretty much know) manwin owns a bunch if traffic networks they keep on the downlow.

you can tell who they are because for example: someone who supposedly owns a tube company somehow will also be the affiliate rep for their dating program?

or someone who works for webcams.com also works for another tube network?

Shap never answers my emails anymore.

ya, i understand the "new hands on the wheel".... but is the driver as good as the old one...?

Apparently not. If you trade with a site, and they suddenly change it up? No fucking cool.

I always thought those old tgps/mgps just needed more backlinks to re-rank these days.

Their power was all of the recips back to their site from the submitters, but, with less submitters come less backlinks.

:1orglaugh

a few of us are listing blog style galleries now and that helps with the backlinks ...

Picwarehouse has been like that for a couple months now. And Sex Ape was redirecting to SexTube even before the buyout. Just noticed the BBL change though.

It's a sad day for us old TGP guys indeed! Also sad since even in this environment BBL could do close to 5 figures a month with some love and care. Though that's certainly a drop in the a bucket for Manwin.

Shap, you should have gave BBL to Brent! :1orglaugh

Backlinks on galleries don't give you the juice they did back in the day. Another thing that hurts TGPs is the fact they have tons of out links, high bounce rates (because of blind trades and because they're one page sites) and that also in turn results in low "time on site" stats. Every one of those factors really favors the tubes.

somebody should take a look at thumbzillas toplist...i saw a parked domain on there...
http://www.hioctane.com/

That site used to be big..

Also, those sites were converted to tubes when shap owned them too, but they looked much better than they do now.. seems like a waste of good sites to me

You do what you gotta do to get the big slice of cheese baby, even if that means short-term self-fucking.