Warner Bros sued for Copyright fraud
 

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Source: http://gizmodo.com/5839739/warner-br...raud-and-abuse

I am conflicted. I don't know whether to salute them or flip them the bird

I'll go with salute.

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Hotfile was sued by five movie studios before they filed this counter claim against warner.

Sounds like a set up:2 cents:

It's funny when companies who blatantly skirt the law are so quick to sue.

Hopefully Hotfile will have to show financial damage done by having these links removed. Open their books on how much they're making by infringing on other people's copyrights. Then those companies should turn around and sue Hotfile. Hilarious!

Rogue deleter for sure.

that isn't warner being sued, that is hotfile's response to getting a rather complete reaming out by the courts and being orders to turn over all of their data, user information, and file infomation (everything except their source code) to the mpaa companies last week.

http://static.pokato.net/2010-12-08-...1660276920.jpg

ADG

Good luck with that shit. :1orglaugh

Warner had an economic motive to make these misrepresentations. As noted above, in early 2010, Warner proposed a business arrangement with Hotfile whereby Warner sought to present ecommerce links to Hotfile users who might purchase a Warner file for Warner's profit in place of links that Warner had deleted using its SRA tool.

By increasing the number of links it was taking down with [their] SRA, and indeed falsely inflating these numbers, Warner was increasing the number of times it could present ecommerce links to Hotfile's users for its own enrichment.

How do you have financial damage using other people stuff?? LOL

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Would do the same.

Here is the TorrentFreak cover of this story:

http://torrentfreak.com/hotfile-sues...-abuse-110913/

The most amazing part is this:

So they're basically saying "we KNOW that this stuff is stolen, the only problem we have with you is that it's not stolen from you but from some other guy who doesn't have that SRA thingy enabled for him and is not that quick to discover infringing links and send DMCAs. Now you need to pay us to compensate us the missed opportunity to monetize that stolen property".

WOW WOW WOW :eek7:eek7:eek7

That's some fucked up logic. However, under the current fucked up laws they may actually have some ground for such claims.

But they'll shoot themselves in the foot either way. If they cannot prove monetary loss from infringment, they'll lose. And if they can, Warner will stuff their asses with that proof in their another lawsuit.

And one last thing, a kinda open letter.

Dear Warner, if your next movie if going to have the word "ferro" in the title, I fully authorize you to remove any matches from Hotfile that will happen to be related to our program :pimp

"sorry, i selected ALL by mistake :Oh crap"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Salute them all you want, but aren't they abusing their power (what they're capable of) just like the file sharing companies are doing? Two wrongs don't make a right.

Ahh, and the plot thickens. :pimp

Actually, this looks more like they entered "the box" into a field, and hit find all/delete, thinking that should cover all their copyrighted material for that movie, ignorantly not knowing that there are plenty of other files with the phrase "the box" in it.

Indeed :upsidedow

Translation : Officer, my weed dealer just sold me a $20 bag but he is only putting
like $17 worth of weed in the bag. Can you weigh my weed on your scale and verify
this and take this guy down and get my money back. You can tell which money is
mine in his pocket because I gave him a fake $20.

:1orglaugh

you want to show where they said "we know that the this stuff is stolen"

it could be fair use (access shifting/ backup recovery/timeshifting) , authorized, or , a mislabelled file to get traffic, or infringing.

in all four cases they are not profiting from it directly, only from providing a service which could be used to infringe .

You don't hold the vcr responsible for the people who use it to make bootleg copies.

Same principle applies here.

Who is dumb enough to give movie studios the permission to DELETE files?
They should have just turned them OFF.. then Hotfile should have deleted them.

The problem could be fixed by deleting Hotfile.

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You mean Warner bros didn't buy advertising in hotfile instead, because let's face it if WB doesn't buy ads on hotfile someone else will ;-)

They must be stupid not to do that :pimp

Lame on both sides.

First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers.

You're a fucking idiot. The only thing protecting your sorry ass are lawyers these days.