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theking 01-30-2003 11:59 PM

Countries committed to assist USA
 
I am watching C-Span and there is a Senate hearing taking place and for those of you that think the USA will be acting alone against Iraq, think again. It was just stated that at this point in time 9 countries are committing troops and 22 countries are assisting in other ways. When the time actually comes, I suspect that there will be more countries offering assistence.

FlyingIguana 01-31-2003 12:01 AM

its about the UN giving the ok, which i think it will.

rooster 01-31-2003 12:01 AM

Yea, I tried to tell people this before, but they rather spout off some far left rhetoric that we are acting alone and nobody supports us, rather than deal with truth.

ChrisH 01-31-2003 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
Yea, I tried to tell people this before, but they rather spout off some far left rhetoric that we are acting alone and nobody supports us, rather than deal with truth.
I heard a pundit refer to the head of the Democrat party as Jacques Chirac...

I laughed for a good 5 minutes.

directfiesta 01-31-2003 12:11 AM

Here are the countries:

The newspaper article signed by Britain's Tony Blair, Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, Spain's Jose Maria Aznar, Portugal's Jose Barroso, Denmark's Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Czech Republic's Vaclav Havel, Poland's Leszek Miller and Hungary's Peter Medgyessy was hailed by the Bush administration as evidence of wider support in Europe than had been reported.


There are some important countries present, and quite a few missing....

theking 01-31-2003 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Here are the countries:

The newspaper article signed by Britain's Tony Blair, Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, Spain's Jose Maria Aznar, Portugal's Jose Barroso, Denmark's Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Czech Republic's Vaclav Havel, Poland's Leszek Miller and Hungary's Peter Medgyessy was hailed by the Bush administration as evidence of wider support in Europe than had been reported.


There are some important countries present, and quite a few missing....

There will be more come on board before all is said and done and France will probably be one of them as well as Russia, though they may not offer troops and I suspect that Germany will do an about face also.

Wildman 01-31-2003 12:20 AM

Australia has been with US since day 1....we dont even get a mention!

I guess thats the good and bad about living in Australia....nobody gives a shit about us, but at least we wont get attacked any time soon!

Sly_RJ 01-31-2003 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildman
Australia has been with US since day 1....we dont even get a mention!

I guess thats the good and bad about living in Australia....nobody gives a shit about us, but at least we wont get attacked any time soon!

Thanks Australia! I love those fucking Aussies...

:thumbsup

bhutocracy 01-31-2003 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildman
Australia has been with US since day 1....we dont even get a mention!

I guess thats the good and bad about living in Australia....nobody gives a shit about us, but at least we wont get attacked any time soon!

*cough* bali *cough*

Wildman 01-31-2003 12:29 AM

Bali is part of Indonesia last time I checked.

Its only our media saying 'Australians' were targeted....i think more likely Westerners were attacked.

juicybucks 01-31-2003 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Wildman
....i think more likely Westerners were attacked.
I totally agree, there were like of Brits there too in that bar !

juicybucks 01-31-2003 12:37 AM

lots of Brits I mean !
bloody lefthanded keyboard

directfiesta 01-31-2003 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildman
Australia has been with US since day 1....we dont even get a mention!

I

That list is Europe . That's why Australia is not there .

bhutocracy 01-31-2003 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Wildman
Bali is part of Indonesia last time I checked.
gee thanks.. pearl harbour is in hawaii.

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Its only our media saying 'Australians' were targeted....i think more likely Westerners were attacked.
yeah right. which country was it that pissed off indonesian militants in east timor? which country has osama singled out as anti-islamic in the area?? which country sees bali as it's personal getaway as evidenced by the sheer weight of australian's vs other nationals?
by your rationale sept 11 was an attack on "Westerners" then not America. I mean it affected the whole western world of which america is the financial heart.
sure bali was against Westerners in the broad sense.. but mainly against Australians in the same way that in other areas it's attacks against Americans.. we're seen as a regional arm of America.. which is natural.. thats kind of what we are..

bhutocracy 01-31-2003 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by juicybucks


I totally agree, there were like of Brits there too in that bar !

no where NEAR the amount as aussies. I think Australian's fail to see that we're viewed as western imperialists by islamic fundamentalists in the area.

WarChild 01-31-2003 01:09 AM

Maybe France should consider changing their flag to the ifle tower with a big white flag waving around the top and a giant peace sign banner?

Of course they're going to do what German wants, hell 50 years ago they basically just rolled over and said "here take Paris" .. probably terrified still.

Daymon

bhutocracy 01-31-2003 01:10 AM

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LiveDose 01-31-2003 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/1999/...ttimor9999.gif
That guy in the middle looks like an umpa lumpa...

Matt_WildCash 01-31-2003 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildman
Australia has been with US since day 1....we dont even get a mention!

I guess thats the good and bad about living in Australia....nobody gives a shit about us, but at least we wont get attacked any time soon!

Australia being USA's best friend and trying to be a good Ally cause apparently Indoniseia considers Australia part of there terriotory and if they one day decided to invade Australia we wouldn't have enough bullets to shoot them all.

I'm all for support of the IRAQ conflict, Just hope the troops that get sent over are given proper protective gear for bio and chem warfare.

.:Frog:. 01-31-2003 01:21 AM

Its clear Bush wants to attack Iraq no matter what. At least provide the world with some proof, and explain what Iraq is doing wrong.

theking 01-31-2003 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by LiveDose


That guy in the middle looks like an umpa lumpa...

By golly I think you are right. It is Umpa Lumpa.

theking 01-31-2003 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by .:Frog:.
Its clear Bush wants to attack Iraq no matter what. At least provide the world with some proof, and explain what Iraq is doing wrong.
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Originally posted by theking


During the first round of inspections after after the first gulf war, Iraq admitted that they had x number of tons/liters etc. of different types of chemical and different types of biological materials on hand as well as x number of chemical rockets/artillary rounds. The first round of inspections over saw the destruction of much of this material and weapons, but they were not allowed to finish the job. Iraq has now said that they took it upon themselves to destroy the remaining weapons and materials since 1998. They do not have the documentation to prove this and said that they destroyed the documentation when they destroyed the materials and weapons. Even if it were true that they destroyed the documentation of the destruction of the materials and weapons there would still be the physical evidence of the destruction of the these materials and weapons, which they have failed to present evidence of. There would also be those scientists and engineers etc. that would have been involved in the destruction of these materials and Iraq has failed to present these people that would have been involved in the destruction of the materials and weapons. Bottom line is they had chemical and biological materials and weapons, admitted that they had them, the first round of inpsections oversaw the destruction of much of the materials and weapons, but they were kicked out before the remaining materials and weapons were destroyed, and Iraq has yet to present one iota of proof that they in fact took it upon themselves to destroy the remaining chemical and biological materials and weapons, thus without proof that they did in fact destroy them (which is their burden as imposed in the last UN resolution) we the US and anyone with an ounce of brains must assume that they still have them, and may have even produced more of them since 1998.


bhutocracy 01-31-2003 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Driven


Australia being USA's best friend and trying to be a good Ally cause apparently Indoniseia considers Australia part of there terriotory and if they one day decided to invade Australia we wouldn't have enough bullets to shoot them all.

I'm all for support of the IRAQ conflict, Just hope the troops that get sent over are given proper protective gear for bio and chem warfare.

Indonesia probably couldn't invade Australia.. we don't need any bullets at all. The whole point of our defense strategy is to take them out on the way over... hence the size of our army in comparison to the navy and airforce.
the only thing we have to worry about with Indonesia is terrorism.. which is part of the reason I don't believe in sending troops over to Iraq... we have the largest muslim nation in the world to our north with PROVEN terrorist capabilities and we're worrying about some guy on the over side of the planet when we're already helping America out with our navy?
Australia really should have come to an agreement with the states that we'll take care of our own backyard and help them logistically in Iraq. Iraqi's haven't done anything to us except be our biggest wheat importer.
I guess though America helping out with Indonesia wouldn't be a bad thing either.. sharing the stick in the hornets nest in reciprocation for the same in Iraq.. *shrugs*

I just think Australia has bigger fish to fry in Indonesia.. the US should just nuke all of saddam's palaces at once instead of nailing half of Bagdad and a bunch of innocent people in the process.. they don't need us.. I guess we're there to show that it's not just the US.. oh yeah and the new regime better buy our wheat. The US can keep the oil. :)

bhutocracy 01-31-2003 01:51 AM

for the record I believe Saddam does have some chemical and biological weapons tucked away for a rainy day somewhere... But I don't believe he supports Al quaeda.

Seaz 01-31-2003 02:11 AM

i didint take the time to read everyone post but didint Canada get on board to help. I mean we wont be a huge milatary work but we got allot of diplomatic weight and good support and commando units.....

ADL Colin 01-31-2003 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
Yea, I tried to tell people this before, but they rather spout off some far left rhetoric that we are acting alone and nobody supports us, rather than deal with truth.
That's because they are brainwashed by their local governments and media. :thumbsup

ADL Colin 01-31-2003 03:45 AM

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Originally posted by LiveDose


That guy in the middle looks like an umpa lumpa...

:thumbsup

Tuga 01-31-2003 05:52 AM

The portuguese government is with the USA. That is sad because the portuguese people are not in favour of this stupid war.
The prime minister is trying to explain is point of view on parlament right now, but there is no explanation. I hope he'll go down for this.

jimmyf 01-31-2003 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Thanks Australia! I love those fucking Aussies...

:thumbsup

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

directfiesta 01-31-2003 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Tuga
The portuguese government is with the USA. That is sad because the portuguese people are not in favour of this stupid war.
The prime minister is trying to explain is point of view on parlament right now, but there is no explanation. I hope he'll go down for this.

This is really peculiar about the situation. Of the countries supporting war or the Us, the governments are going ahead even tough the population is against it ( Australia, Portugal, UK, ...).

Isn't that political suicide?

jfkpt 01-31-2003 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Tuga
The portuguese government is with the USA. That is sad because the portuguese people are not in favour of this stupid war.
The prime minister is trying to explain is point of view on parlament right now, but there is no explanation. I hope he'll go down for this.

You're right about that.

And for the record, the mere signing of that paper IS NOT a commitment that Portugal will send troops and weapons to fight Iraq, for severall reasons:

1 - The mother fucker Portuguese PM didn't tell anybody here that he was going to sign it, we took knowledge of it through TV and newspapers, Parliament was not consulted.

2 - Our PM is a brainless cocksucker who likes and needs to lick some ass to get somebody noticing him.

3 - Most important of all, Portugal has no troops or belic capacities whatsoever to fight anything, we can't even defend ourselves.

4 - By signing that document he exposed our country to terrorists cause they'll see it as an act of war.

In the Gulf war i was all by American side, today i'm not.
I'll refuse to fight this stupid war even if i'll get drafted to it.

And for the record, Durao Barroso, our PM should choke to death in his own drool after being hit by a train.

McAttack 01-31-2003 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seaz
i didint take the time to read everyone post but didint Canada get on board to help. I mean we wont be a huge milatary work but we got allot of diplomatic weight and good support and commando units.....
Not really. Our government is on the edge. The reason is simple. Bush is insane. Blair will follow the USA to the end of the world for economics reasons. There's a lot of financial transactions between the countries. As for Canada, I'm glad that the PM is finally thinking about sending troops, and not just doing it automatically cause the USA said to.

I will probably take a lot of shit for this, but I am against this war. The reason is simple. It started out with an act of terrorism. Then Bush stated that any country that harbours Terrorists is an ennemy. Fine, aggressive but ok I understand it. THen they spread a Rumour that Bin Laden was in Iraq and was hidden by Saddam. When it was later proven by the Military inteligence that he probably was never in Iraq, the USA's reason for invading Iraq suddenly changed and all of a sudden there is talk about proof that there's weapons of mass destruction.

Simple facts here. Saddam is in charge of a country that exports a LOT of oil to the USA. The Bush family has made their money in Oil and still own a lot of stock in the Oil industry. A lot of the funding for their campaigns was paid for by Oil companies. Now if Saddam is ousted and is replaced with a government that is "western friendly" then maybe taxes and costs of exportation can be lowered, all while keeping the price of oil in the USA at the same price. This means more profit for the oil companies.

And to any gun happy American that thinks the world should hate Muslims and all that, remember one thing. THE CIA TRAINED OSSAMA BIN LADDEN AND AL QUEDA

theking 02-08-2003 04:21 PM

We are now up to 34 countries, and counting, supporting the USA in the overthrow of Saddam.

nemesis 02-08-2003 06:33 PM

Turkey will be actively supporting. Army said Turkey will have more soldiers on north Iraq than Usa. Turkish army on north Iraq rıght next to Kurdısh fuckers will bring a lot of heat to the area. I hope turkish amry will take the revenge from kurds in North ıraq for their terrorist actions...

Army went crazy ın Turkey. We keep most of our shit close to the Greek border and now they are moving everything to the Iraq border. Also newspapers said Army will be sending out letters to the 4X4 owners to let them know that their vehicles might be needed. They also send out papers to people who had been in the army in the last 5 years saying that they should be on alert for a call...


Our army has always been paranoid, but I think this time Saddam will try attack Turkey for supporting the war...

BigFish 02-08-2003 06:41 PM

And the time is near... Drudgereport says the Bush & Blair is giving Saddam 48 hours to vacate or suffer the consequences.

ChrisH 02-08-2003 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by McAttack


Not really. Our government is on the edge. The reason is simple. Bush is insane. Blair will follow the USA to the end of the world for economics reasons. There's a lot of financial transactions between the countries. As for Canada, I'm glad that the PM is finally thinking about sending troops, and not just doing it automatically cause the USA said to.

I will probably take a lot of shit for this, but I am against this war. The reason is simple. It started out with an act of terrorism. Then Bush stated that any country that harbours Terrorists is an ennemy. Fine, aggressive but ok I understand it. THen they spread a Rumour that Bin Laden was in Iraq and was hidden by Saddam. When it was later proven by the Military inteligence that he probably was never in Iraq, the USA's reason for invading Iraq suddenly changed and all of a sudden there is talk about proof that there's weapons of mass destruction.

Simple facts here. Saddam is in charge of a country that exports a LOT of oil to the USA. The Bush family has made their money in Oil and still own a lot of stock in the Oil industry. A lot of the funding for their campaigns was paid for by Oil companies. Now if Saddam is ousted and is replaced with a government that is "western friendly" then maybe taxes and costs of exportation can be lowered, all while keeping the price of oil in the USA at the same price. This means more profit for the oil companies.

And to any gun happy American that thinks the world should hate Muslims and all that, remember one thing. THE CIA TRAINED OSSAMA BIN LADDEN AND AL QUEDA

The US gets approx. 3 million barrels of oil a year from Iraq. In contrast we get almost 1.5 million barrels per DAY from Venuzella. So your SIMPLE FACTS, are to say the least simply wrong.

Sly_RJ 02-08-2003 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
We are now up to 34 countries, and counting, supporting the USA in the overthrow of Saddam.
Are you surprised? I'm not.

:thumbsup

theking 02-08-2003 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Are you surprised? I'm not.

:thumbsup

Not at all and I fully expect some more to climb aboard, including some that are currently against an invasion.

XXXManager 02-09-2003 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildman
Bali is part of Indonesia last time I checked.
Its only our media saying 'Australians' were targeted....i think more likely Westerners were attacked.

"He is not spitting on me mama.. Its just raining" :helpme :1orglaugh

directfiesta 02-09-2003 12:42 AM

Power of money: Turkey will get 6 billions for the use of their territory, along with 350 millions to renovate air bases.
They will probably also take advantage of the war to seize and occupy territories...
Iraq will be split among the invaders, the Iraquis will become a population without a country like the Palestinians ...

Transformed in terrorists , they will asim all american citizens and interest around the world as much as in the US.

All this to satisfy inflated balls of a low intellectual president. Shame on you!

theking 02-09-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Power of money: Turkey will get 6 billions for the use of their territory, along with 350 millions to renovate air bases.
They will probably also take advantage of the war to seize and occupy territories...
Iraq will be split among the invaders, the Iraquis will become a population without a country like the Palestinians ...

Transformed in terrorists , they will asim all american citizens and interest around the world as much as in the US.

All this to satisfy inflated balls of a low intellectual president. Shame on you!

You people keep singling on the President. I have repeatedly stated that the President does not and cannot act in a vaccum. You should not even be blaming the President. If you want to place blame then place it where the power of the US government resides and that is the Congress. The congress is composed of 535 people. 435 members of the house and 100 members of the Senate. Only they can make and pass laws. Only they control the purse strings. The President cannot wage war without the Congress granting him the power to do so. The President cannot wage war without funding. The Congress gave the power to the President to wage war several months ago. The Congress has agreed to fund the war. The Congress could stop the war tomorrow if they chose to do it using several methods and one of those would be to vote not to fund a war, just as they did during the Vietnam era. In addition the American people could stop the war tomorrow if they inundated their congressman with phone calls, faxes, letters, and E-mails. Regardless of what polls say and the various polls have various percentages of approval and/or disapproval, the American people approve of the war because they are not inundating their congressman with pleas to stop the war. So what is this obsession you people have with Bush. Place the blame where it lies and that begins with the American people and their duly elected Congressman and Senators.

ThunderBalls 02-09-2003 01:59 AM

You should have named this thread
"Right Wingers, lets suck each others dick"

theking 02-09-2003 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
You should have named this thread
"Right Wingers, lets suck each others dick"

So...you love the cock huh kid? Why am I not surprised?

ThunderBalls 02-09-2003 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by theking


So...you love the cock huh kid? Why am I not surprised?

Fuck off you piece of shit.

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


That is because your insight is as lacking as your gray matter kid.

Shows what a man you are. You think you can hurt me by bringing up the fact my 7 month old son is dead? You are a worthless piece of shit and I thank God my kid will never see the trash in this world such as you. I really would like to meet you.

Rui 02-09-2003 03:33 AM

Our stupid PM accepted to help the US...but hopefully looks like he open the eyes and will not send military help and not do shit until UN final word!

Hell he is even dumber than bush :2 cents:

Rui 02-09-2003 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta


This is really peculiar about the situation. Of the countries supporting war or the Us, the governments are going ahead even tough the population is against it ( Australia, Portugal, UK, ...).

Isn't that political suicide?

So freaking true....it sucks to have a asslicker as Prime-minister..gezzz :BangBang:

goBigtime 02-09-2003 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildman
Australia has been with US since day 1....we dont even get a mention!

I guess thats the good and bad about living in Australia....nobody gives a shit about us, but at least we wont get attacked any time soon!


Hmm yeah I think if we have that crocodile hunter guy on our side theres no chance we could lose.... Using some strange form of outback luckmagic that guy could get us through any minefield unscathed:

"...one wrong step and I'll be blown to smitherines!... heres one! Crikey! It's a big mother! Loook at it!"

ControlThy 02-09-2003 03:45 AM

Theking,

I always laugh when you use the words "we will attack Iraq", the "we" part is the most interesting. I am sure you will be sitting on your fat ass while the US military takes action against Iraq.

And congratulations to the US government for buying the approval of a couple of east-European nations. I wonder how much they cost? The governments that support the war against Iraq without the population being in favor, will pay a political price soon - especially if Golf war II ends up badly.

goBigtime 02-09-2003 03:46 AM

I mean between Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, Arnold schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Steven Segal, Jackie Chan etc.. we could have this middle east crisis thing rolled up in under 2 hours.

Hmm and there would be plenty more action heros left to send over to north korea.

Well now that I look at it that way, I'm not bothered or scared about the war anymore. I've seen those guys take on massive armies just by themselves.. if we were to band them together like that we would be UNSTOPPABLE.

goBigtime 02-09-2003 03:49 AM

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