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Barefootsies 09-08-2011 05:11 PM

HD Camera Recommendations
 
I still prefer working with tape versus disk.

Content shooters, fire away with what you've got.

:pimp

Jey p 09-08-2011 05:13 PM

bump for you , I am looking for the same info :)

mattz 09-08-2011 05:14 PM

HD camera guide

Barefootsies 09-08-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jey p (Post 18413345)
bump for you , I am looking for the same info :)

Thanks top notch.
:thumbsup

icymelon 09-08-2011 06:04 PM

I have panasonic hvx-200 which has a dv tape option

MaDalton 09-08-2011 06:06 PM

we just bought a Sony NEX FS100 - it's simply amazing. but not for point and shoot

Caligari 09-08-2011 06:37 PM

Love the tape option too but the Sony NEX-VG10 is stunning for the price, actually for 2x the price. if it had tape option i'd buy it, will still try it out when i get a chance-
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...andyc am.html

candyflip 09-08-2011 08:10 PM

I'm getting the one that MaDalton mentioned above in December from my school. Can't wait to get my hands on it. The FS100 is the shit. But totally digital, no tape.

In the meantime I have a 5D MK2 and a 60D and a nice rig.

amateurcanada 09-08-2011 08:38 PM

I agree on the tape! However, like all media, things degrade the second its complete. Storing all tapes in a cool area without moisture is ideal. OFFLOADING OUR TAPE IMMEDIATELY IS IDEAL - and should be common practice for all producers. After that a few backups via external drives and its no different then tape. Cost might be a bit more but you have that extra level of protection just in case you need to do a re-encode.

Barefootsies 09-09-2011 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amateurcanada (Post 18413680)
I agree on the tape! However, like all media, things degrade the second its complete. Storing all tapes in a cool area without moisture is ideal. OFFLOADING OUR TAPE IMMEDIATELY IS IDEAL - and should be common practice for all producers. After that a few backups via external drives and its no different then tape. Cost might be a bit more but you have that extra level of protection just in case you need to do a re-encode.

Oh yeah. Having multiple copies is a must.

Both the original tape, and hard drives.

Barefootsies 09-09-2011 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18413498)
Love the tape option too but the Sony NEX-VG10 is stunning for the price, actually for 2x the price. if it had tape option i'd buy it, will still try it out when i get a chance-
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...andyc am.html

Nice looking cam.
:thumbsup

Barefootsies 09-19-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18413457)
we just bought a Sony NEX FS100 - it's simply amazing. but not for point and shoot

It sounds magical.
:thumbsup

tony286 09-19-2011 04:48 AM

What are you looking to spend?

candyflip 09-19-2011 06:18 AM

I've got a Sony HDR-HC5 that takes tape. It's a few years old and was probably used for less than 10 hours total.

I'd sell it for a few hundred bucks if it might be of interest.

Grapesoda 09-19-2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18413340)
I still prefer working with tape versus disk.

Content shooters, fire away with what you've got.

:pimp

http://www.hdcameraguide.com/camcord...v-hd-camcorder

if you want a tape, print a copy to tape :2 cents:

Barefootsies 12-30-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18436726)
What are you looking to spend?

Right now I am looking at a few decent camera(s) to tinker with.

We will be getting ready to shoot more content in Jan after the local colleges are back in session, and return from Vegas. For myself, it's a dead zone from middle of November through mid Jan every year.

Fire away ladies.
:winkwink:

Jim_Gunn 12-30-2011 02:24 PM

I used to like the Sony 1080i HDV cams like the FX-1 that I used for years or the smaller FX-7. But I feel they are outdated now that I have adapted to media only cameras and workflow. I was totally fed up with deinterlacing anymore anyway. Plus having a full HD 1920 x 1080 progressive resolution with multiple 1/2 inch or bigger sensors like with a Sony EX-1 or Canon 5D Mark II creates such a superior image and opens up so many more possibilities that I could never go back to tape.

V_RocKs 12-30-2011 02:50 PM

My G2 phone... people want grainy bullshit anyway.

HDADULT 12-30-2011 04:52 PM

I would love to get my hands on the Canon 5D Mark II SLR to play with.

TrashyContent 12-30-2011 05:18 PM

Sony Pro HVR Z5E
 
We shoot with this... guess it depends what your needs are...

http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...=0CIABEPMCMAU#

Lassitor 12-30-2011 05:18 PM

I have been shooting on the Panasonic HPX 300 and HVX 200 on P2 cards. I then have one computer render all the raw video on a H.264 MP4 with a 2000K then burn it on a DVD or blu-ray and stick it in the archival file box that is taken off site.

There are times when I just shoot DV with the HVX 200 and that tends to be low low budget shoots where it is just a quick turn around from production to website where HD is not offered.

JustDaveXxx 12-30-2011 05:37 PM

All of the above non-Tape Cameras are fine.


Its funny, how so many people get so into the camera that they neglect or never spend the money on proper lighting. I like to use a combo of Kinos and HMI's depending on what and where I am shooting.


Lighting, Lighting, Lighting.....:2 cents:

Jim_Gunn 12-30-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 18660913)
All of the above non-Tape Cameras are fine.


Its funny, how so many people get so into the camera that they neglect or never spend the money on proper lighting. I like to use a combo of Kinos and HMI's depending on what and where I am shooting.


Lighting, Lighting, Lighting.....:2 cents:

Agreed. I only use daylight balanced lights myself. A pair of Kino-Flo four-foot four banks are my usual key lights and I have both a 1000-watt and a 500-watt Lowell Riffa softbox light with CTB gels inside them to add some fill or back light. Plus oftentimes some windows and sunlight of course!

shimmy2 12-30-2011 06:46 PM

i spent 5years using dv tapes and can't go back to that now. i dont know if you film gonzo amateurs but if you do just remember the best camera is the one you have on you at all times. it does you no good if its at home. use to use canon GL1/GL2 then went tapeless with a $1000 Canon T3i SLR for video, that got stolen (see story here) now I carry a canon vixia with me everywhere and love it

SmutHammer 12-30-2011 08:20 PM

I use the canon 7d, great quality but don't recommend for gonzo. I end up having to cut alot out of my vids because of focusing or camera shake etc. I have been searching youtube and built a pretty nice camera rig today. still waiting for the paint to dry but this new set up should make filming much easier!

digitaldivas 12-30-2011 09:14 PM

...I will buy a Maserati, for the deliciousness that I have captured on my Canon T3i

digitaldivas 12-30-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 18660913)
All of the above non-Tape Cameras are fine.


Its funny, how so many people get so into the camera that they neglect or never spend the money on proper lighting. I like to use a combo of Kinos and HMI's depending on what and where I am shooting.


Lighting, Lighting, Lighting.....:2 cents:

Well said, Sir :thumbsup

adendreams 12-30-2011 09:28 PM

I feel you, I held on to my 8 track for years... ah the good ol days :)

adendreams 12-30-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 18660913)
All of the above non-Tape Cameras are fine.


Its funny, how so many people get so into the camera that they neglect or never spend the money on proper lighting. I like to use a combo of Kinos and HMI's depending on what and where I am shooting.


Lighting, Lighting, Lighting.....:2 cents:

sorry but I dont concur.. lighting is going the way of the horse n buggy... iso killed lights they just havn't claimed the body yet. :thumbsup

borked 12-30-2011 09:38 PM

GoPro HD Hero2 ;)

digitaldivas 12-30-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 18661159)
sorry but I dont concur.. lighting is going the way of the horse n buggy... iso killed lights they just havn't claimed the body yet. :thumbsup

...really? Imho, at least from a DSLR perspective, good lighting is so key. Even when I had my tape driven HV-30, much less grain when CCD sensitivity is not so strained that they are pulling artifacts from the image sensor. Just my 2~ :)

dgraves 12-31-2011 01:24 AM

i've been using a Canon Vixia HF S200 for the past few years and like it a lot. i'd like to play around with the Vixia G10 to see how well it works in low light.

i've never lost content but i back everything up on a RAID and i back that up with another drive.

tape will eventually be obsolete.

DWB 12-31-2011 05:37 AM

Sony FX-1
Sony HDR-XR500 (smaller cam for more amateur footage)

And I agree with Dave and Jim, you need to know something about lighting. And it isn't so much to blow out the whole room, but it's good to know how to deal away with shadows you don't want, or create ones you do.

Caligari 12-31-2011 06:40 AM

I am typically a Sony fanatic but I recently ordered a Canon HF m40-
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...M40_Flash.html

This camera has been highly touted for not only the image quality, but the insane amount of options it has for the price (350-400 bucks)
1)microphone IN
2)wireless mic capability
3)24p & 30p Frame Modes

granted it is tapeless, but after reading customer and critic reviews i figured i would have to see just how good this thing is.

This could be the perfect go anywhere camera, and if it gets stolen or destroyed it's no big deal.

Will post results when i run some tests in feb.

.

JustDaveXxx 12-31-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 18661159)
sorry but I dont concur.. lighting is going the way of the horse n buggy... iso killed lights they just havn't claimed the body yet. :thumbsup

hahahahahha!!! That is a funny post.


and you would have a "Kinda-Point" if you only shot in the same room day in and day out knowing the sweet spots or shooting Ex-girlfrind content.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18661526)

And I agree with Dave and Jim, you need to know something about lighting. And it isn't so much to blow out the whole room, but it's good to know how to deal away with shadows you don't want, or create ones you do.


:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Had an out door scene I shot 2 weeks ago. Over head Scrimed the couch outside with a 12x12 to get rid of the direct harsh shadows that the sun caused. Then front lit it with HMIs and used a 200 watt HMI as a c-light.


Could have gotten away with not front lighting it, but everything pops with a front light. And when you can match daylight and nobody can tell, its that much better.




OHHH adendreams, ISO could not have helped you out of harsh shadows caused by the sun.


Knowing and understanding basic lighting principals is key to every shoot. :thumbsup

Barefootsies 01-02-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18661558)
I am typically a Sony fanatic but I recently ordered a Canon HF m40-
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...M40_Flash.html

This camera has been highly touted for not only the image quality, but the insane amount of options it has for the price (350-400 bucks)
1)microphone IN
2)wireless mic capability
3)24p & 30p Frame Modes

granted it is tapeless, but after reading customer and critic reviews i figured i would have to see just how good this thing is.

This could be the perfect go anywhere camera, and if it gets stolen or destroyed it's no big deal.

Will post results when i run some tests in feb.

.

Make sure and post your feedback.
:thumbsup

Nikki_Licks 01-02-2012 08:17 AM

I am still real happy with my Z1U Sony.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...3_CCD_HDV.html

dgraves 02-17-2012 03:10 PM

i just got a Canon XA10 and i'm very pleased so far.

Cherry7 02-17-2012 04:00 PM

http://wideopencamera.com/wp-content...dd9330a13a.jpg

Full HD, Super 35mm sensor at $600 plus lens adapter and any Canon or Nikon lens

http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uplo...-fd-50mm-l.jpg

Then for those under water nude shots

http://goprohdhero960.com/wp-content...nd-670x670.jpg

And for the full Hollywood Dolly shots with fill light

http://wolfangdigital.com/blog_stuff...o_dolly_03.jpg


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