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DVTimes 09-01-2011 11:44 AM

my idea for electric cars
 
http://www.b4ev.com/

Rochard 09-01-2011 12:00 PM

You know what... He might just be on to something there. Cars would be more like the old slot cars, getting power to them as they drive... Now we would just have to set up large tracks.

DVTimes 09-01-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18396917)
You know what... He might just be on to something there. Cars would be more like the old slot cars, getting power to them as they drive... Now we would just have to set up large tracks.

i do not think the tracks would need to be that big.

seeandsee 09-01-2011 12:19 PM

you think they can make Electro car, 10x better than they show us now, yeah they are crazy to sell it, and OIL to find them ...

bronco67 09-01-2011 12:40 PM

What happens when you need to make a turn, but there's no tracks on that particular street because it would be logistically and technically impossible to retrofit every street in the world with these fantasy tracks? Every street, with all of its degrading due to weather, slopes, cracks, pits and potholes. Yeah that would work.

Great drawings.

DVTimes 09-01-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18397124)
What happens when you need to make a turn, but there's no tracks on that particular street because it would be logistically and technically impossible to retrofit every street in the world with these fantasy tracks? Every street, with all of its degrading due to weather, slopes, cracks, pits and potholes. Yeah that would work.

Great drawings.

if you read what i put, i clearly state that you still need batteries.

the system is for motorways or as you call them in the usa, highways.

but your not needing lots of batteries, only enough for say 20 to 40 miles.

when your in town your using battery power - but when you stop at a shop you should be charging.

ottopottomouse 09-01-2011 01:16 PM

or, if you weren't a dafty

tiny petrol/diesel engines combined in a hybrid with standardised battery design, with petrol station style battery changing points.

DVTimes 09-01-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18397237)
or, if you weren't a dafty

tiny petrol/diesel engines combined in a hybrid with standardised battery design, with petrol station style battery changing points.

the truble with that is they add weight.

by cutting out as much battery as you can, meand you can build lighter cars.

though a duel system could work, say with trucks/vans/hgv's, that off the motorways (highways) could use a standered diesel engines, but once on the motorway could be powered by the system.

this could reduce there costs, as such it means the stuff they move lowers in costs. so such as food could become cheaper.

2MuchMark 09-01-2011 01:45 PM

His idea would not work well as it would be impractical. The voltage requirements to support even a few cars would be very high and therefore dangerous. Power would be lost due to shear distance. The power would have to be AC so that step-up transformers could boost the electricity lost every few miles, which would require cars to have voltage inverters (Gadgets that convert AC to DC) , adding weight.

This idea of course also shifts the responsibility of electric card infrastructure to the state. THey would never pay for it.

RebelR 09-01-2011 01:56 PM

the biggest issue that you face with that system is the infrastructure needed on motorways. Combine that with the fact that it would only be practical for specific climates. Here in Canada we cant even use cats eyes on the road since the plows would rip them up.

Grapesoda 09-01-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18396917)
You know what... He might just be on to something there. Cars would be more like the old slot cars, getting power to them as they drive... Now we would just have to set up large tracks.

never happen.... liberal weenies will make sure that never happens because some dumb mother fucker will get killed walking around on the road :2 cents:

Grapesoda 09-01-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 18397361)
the biggest issue that you face with that system is the infrastructure needed on motorways. Combine that with the fact that it would only be practical for specific climates. Here in Canada we cant even use cats eyes on the road since the plows would rip them up.

it would only be for icars :2 cents:

DVTimes 09-01-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 18397361)
the biggest issue that you face with that system is the infrastructure needed on motorways. Combine that with the fact that it would only be practical for specific climates. Here in Canada we cant even use cats eyes on the road since the plows would rip them up.

i think your cats eyes in the usa are different to those in the uk.

in the uk ours drop into the road. this saves them from breaking and also get clean in the rain in the wholes they drop into.

DVTimes 09-01-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18397322)
His idea would not work well as it would be impractical. The voltage requirements to support even a few cars would be very high and therefore dangerous. Power would be lost due to shear distance. The power would have to be AC so that step-up transformers could boost the electricity lost every few miles, which would require cars to have voltage inverters (Gadgets that convert AC to DC) , adding weight.

This idea of course also shifts the responsibility of electric card infrastructure to the state. THey would never pay for it.

you say that, but i am sure they would work out how to get around the problem.

DVTimes 09-01-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18397365)
never happen.... liberal weenies will make sure that never happens because some dumb mother fucker will get killed walking around on the road :2 cents:

this is why i said they would only be on such as motorways with huge traffic, but long roads.

in the uk if you went on a motorway your going to be squished.

however my sugestion is that the system is in sections that would switch on and off when cars are on it. this way if the road is not used, the tracks would switch off, so it would be safe.

chaze 09-01-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18397202)
if you read what i put, i clearly state that you still need batteries.

the system is for motorways or as you call them in the usa, highways.

but your not needing lots of batteries, only enough for say 20 to 40 miles.

when your in town your using battery power - but when you stop at a shop you should be charging.

Sounds good, get a patent and sell it.

I invented the only true renewable energy source on planet earth but no one cares, maybe yours is more practical.

DVTimes 09-01-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chaze (Post 18397519)
Sounds good, get a patent and sell it.

I invented the only true renewable energy source on planet earth but no one cares, maybe yours is more practical.

i am not sure what could be patended.

as the end of the day its simply using the same technology as trams and so on.

even if the track on the motorway is not the workabel, i think if its used to charge parked cars it may be a good idea.

i think it must be safter than plugging in a cord when its raining, or having kids pull them out. or people triping over them.

Godsmack 09-01-2011 03:11 PM

Edit.. sorry

bigluv 09-01-2011 03:38 PM

Did you really waste your time doing that in paint. And registering a domain?

Rochard 09-01-2011 03:45 PM

Don't they have something similar to this in cities on bus lines? Not below like a slot car, but instead they have a wire above the bus and the bus is hooked up to that...

StinkyPink 09-01-2011 03:56 PM

Looking at your concept here gave me an idea, it is a simple, logical idea and it would require no tracks, not even power... that is right... NO POWER!

http://t4bmotorsports.com/uploads/Pr...tor_dynamo.jpg

Anyone remember these?

Same concept only using DVtimes idea to charge the battery, and using less batteries etc. like uhhh, make one of these generators that are built right into the drivetrain, say one for each wheel insuring that as long as one wheel is on the ground the generator is sending power to the charging system. Hell all you need is enough power to start your car, then charge as you drive... the faste, longer, more you drive the more charge. Also large capacitors can help get that cranking HP going.

My Pimp 09-01-2011 04:10 PM

This is a great idea .

scarlettcontent 09-01-2011 04:46 PM

scalectrix?

raymor 09-01-2011 05:20 PM

If you reduced traffic by putting the new electric highways underneath existing roads you'd have the New York subway system / London underground. The success of the similarly pureed electric subway suggests such an idea could work.

High voltage is not required - high AMPERAGE is. Amperage is the capability to power many cars.
Low or medium voltage is not particularly dangerous just because of the amperage capability. DC is also not necessarily required. All kind of motors in home appliances run on AC. In fact, things like air conditioners convert AC to to DC and back to AC again for speed control.

It ours to me that diesel powered trains and some ships actually move using an electric motor. The diesel engine turns a generator which powers an electric motor. They do that not because it's green, but because it works better than using the diesel directly. A car could get electric from the highway and run diesel electric on side streets and/or have smaller batteries.

As to the generator mounted to the drive train, that's a great idea that's widely used and called regenerative braking. Turning the generator slows the car, so it's not suitable as the sole power source, but it does allow one to "recycle" the energy that would otherwise be lost during braking.

spazlabz 09-01-2011 05:25 PM

if I ever get a chance to cross the pond I want one of these
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...ault_Twizy.jpg

I may have to grease myself up to fit in it but it looks like fun
Hot linked source http://jalopnik.com/5361306/renault-...-square-wheels

RebelR 09-01-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyPink (Post 18397669)
Looking at your concept here gave me an idea, it is a simple, logical idea and it would require no tracks, not even power... that is right... NO POWER!

http://t4bmotorsports.com/uploads/Pr...tor_dynamo.jpg

Anyone remember these?

Same concept only using DVtimes idea to charge the battery, and using less batteries etc. like uhhh, make one of these generators that are built right into the drivetrain, say one for each wheel insuring that as long as one wheel is on the ground the generator is sending power to the charging system. Hell all you need is enough power to start your car, then charge as you drive... the faste, longer, more you drive the more charge. Also large capacitors can help get that cranking HP going.

If you get that to work then you would have solved the riddle of perpetual motion, and you would be a very, very rich man, either that, or the oil companies would snuff you out. I could be wrong, but I think most electric cars and hybrids already employ that system in the breaking, converting that breaking energy to recharge the batteries.

ottopottomouse 09-02-2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 18398340)
I could be wrong, but I think most electric cars and hybrids already employ that system in the breaking, converting that breaking energy to recharge the batteries.

They do. Its called regenerative braking.

chaze 09-02-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18398126)
if I ever get a chance to cross the pond I want one of these
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...ault_Twizy.jpg

I may have to grease myself up to fit in it but it looks like fun
Hot linked source http://jalopnik.com/5361306/renault-...-square-wheels

That is awesome that tires are bullet proof. :thumbsup

DBS.US 09-02-2011 06:02 PM

Just put a solar panel on the roof.

SallyRand 09-02-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18400468)
Just put a solar panel on the roof.

To run what?

The dash lights?

You can't put enough solar collector area on the roof of a car to do much good for anything.

2MuchMark 09-02-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyPink (Post 18397669)
Looking at your concept here gave me an idea, it is a simple, logical idea and it would require no tracks, not even power... that is right... NO POWER!

http://t4bmotorsports.com/uploads/Pr...tor_dynamo.jpg

Anyone remember these?

Same concept only using DVtimes idea to charge the battery, and using less batteries etc. like uhhh, make one of these generators that are built right into the drivetrain, say one for each wheel insuring that as long as one wheel is on the ground the generator is sending power to the charging system. Hell all you need is enough power to start your car, then charge as you drive... the faste, longer, more you drive the more charge. Also large capacitors can help get that cranking HP going.


That would definitely not work as it breaks the laws of thermodynamics. That is perpetual motion speak..


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