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$5 submissions 07-18-2011 05:24 PM

Science news: If you're not African, you're part NEANDERTHAL - scientists confirm
 
If you don't trace your ancestry to Africa, you're part Neanderthal according to the July issue of Molecular Biology and Evolution scientific journal.

See: http://news.discovery.com/human/gene...al-110718.html

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Damian Labuda of the University of Montreal's Department of Pediatrics and the CHU Sainte-Justine Research Center conducted the study with his colleagues. They determined some of the human X chromosome originates from Neanderthals, but only in people of non-African heritage.

"This confirms recent findings suggesting that the two populations interbred," Labuda was quoted as saying in a press release. His team believes most, if not all, of the interbreeding took place in the Middle East, while modern humans were migrating out of Africa and spreading to other regions.

The ancestors of Neanderthals left Africa about 400,000 to 800,000 years ago. They evolved over the millennia mostly in what are now France, Spain, Germany and Russia. They went extinct, or were simply absorbed into the modern human population, about 30,000 years ago.

Neanderthals possessed the gene for language and had sophisticated music, art and tool craftsmanship skills, so they must have not been all that unattractive to modern humans at the time.

u-Bob 07-18-2011 05:51 PM

new interracial niche? :)

$5 submissions 07-18-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18290761)
new interracial niche? :)

Geico caveman niche?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__Rt973W_bl...00/Cavemen.jpg

L-Pink 07-18-2011 05:59 PM

Neanderthal means you're from the Netherlands right?

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Brujah 07-18-2011 06:06 PM

Fascinating

alias 07-18-2011 06:17 PM

Non African=white?

_Richard_ 07-18-2011 06:27 PM

not to be the resident naysayer

but if science was to be believed, isn't EVERYONE decendants from neanderthals?

Deputy Chief Command 07-18-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18290803)
not to be the resident naysayer

but if science was to be believed, isn't EVERYONE decendants from neanderthals?

fill us in .. what did we miss ..

ilnjscb 07-18-2011 06:43 PM

No, africans developed from Homo Heidelbergensis. Non africans, including asians, have 4% neanderthal dna

$5 submissions 07-18-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 18290832)
No, africans developed from Homo Heidelbergensis. Non africans, including asians, have 4% neanderthal dna

Yep, I'm Asian so I've got some Neanderthal DNA. Still a mystery why they died out. Supposedly they had larger brains but maybe this was offset by some other factor that didn't contribute to their survival chances -- as a group.

Deputy Chief Command 07-18-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18290836)
Yep, I'm Asian so I've got some Neanderthal DNA. Still a mystery why they died out. Supposedly they had larger brains but maybe this was offset by some other factor that didn't contribute to their survival chances -- as a group.

doesn't the article you link state that they might not have died out at all ?

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They went extinct, or were simply absorbed into the modern human population, about 30,000 years ago.

also the fact that non Africans all have Neanderthal DNA only further backs up the claim that they did not die out ...

in other words .. if Neanderthalers died out . ;then so did the Human Being with no Neanderthal DNA .. except for Africans though ..

so you could take it one step further and the only PURE BRED Humans are Africans ? all the rest of us are inbred bastards ?? :upsidedow:pimp

Bill8 07-18-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18290803)
not to be the resident naysayer

but if science was to be believed, isn't EVERYONE decendants from neanderthals?

No, it's not a direct line. The neandertal line died out, but not before some interbreeding with homo sapiens.

Homo sapiens appears to have originated in north africa, and spread out from there to dominate the planet.

We moved north and lived alongside neadertalis for some 40-60K years.

Neadertal was adapted to cold and megafauna and as the earth warmed after the last ice age they went extinct.

Bill8 07-18-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18290840)
so you could take it one step further and the only PURE BRED Humans are Africans ? all the rest of us are inbred bastards ?? :upsidedow:pimp

Sure, you could take that line of argument.

Except it's not inbred, you are using the wrong word.

Techniically we are hybrids. Crossbred is also accurate. Inbred implies breeding only inside a limited moiety, that is, only with close relatives.

brassmonkey 07-18-2011 06:58 PM

so easy a caveman could do it.

DirtyDanza 07-18-2011 09:30 PM

strange I always Africans looked more like Neanderthals than we did.... go's to show

BVF 07-18-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 18291020)
strange I always Africans looked more like Neanderthals than we did.... go's to show

Take a look at your avatar Mr. Cro Magnon man.

96ukssob 07-18-2011 09:51 PM

well, thats fucking interesting

Far-L 07-19-2011 01:41 AM

Homegrown is to funky amateur porn as Maceo Parker is to funky Sax riffs
 
I'm black and I'm proud...


calvinawe 07-19-2011 02:00 AM

wait, wasn't Africa the cradle of today's entire humanity?

DamianJ 07-19-2011 02:04 AM

I am not bloody Dutch.

Nicky 07-19-2011 02:39 AM

I wonder what the next evolvement will be called, and when It will be said to "officially" had happened?

Bill8 07-19-2011 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by calvinawe (Post 18291258)
wait, wasn't Africa the cradle of today's entire humanity?

Several times over.

But we modern humans first appeared in north africa somewhere between 160k to 110k years ago, as far as we can tell now.

Neandertal, on the other hand, may have been truly european, evolved from the homo erectus line that migrated out of africa 1.8 to 1 million years ago.

We north africans took over their territory and liked it. Fewer parasites, and we had invented sewing.

Phoenix 07-19-2011 04:52 AM

i read a cool sci fi story where they postulated that Neanderthals died out because they were built too hardy. So they had bigger bones, weighed more and took more energy(food) to maintain.

They made some neanderthals in a lab in south korea in the book, who eventually get out and start being adopted by people. Later on the Neanderthals go on to dominate in sports, especially physical contact sports. They also were much smarter then the average human, and started to take over in the scientific arena as well.

anyway, cool book.

seeandsee 07-19-2011 04:57 AM

i am from future

magicmike 07-19-2011 07:18 AM

So now Neanderthals were these super smart, strong awesome people right?

And if its in the X chromosome only, does that mean human women were sleeping with neaderthal men then?

Or a daughter of a neaderthal father and human mother was the base for every one except sub saharan humans?

u-Bob 07-19-2011 07:20 AM

Maybe Bigfoot is a Neanderthal...

PR_Glen 07-19-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 18291026)
Take a look at your avatar Mr. Cro Magnon man.

ok now that was funny... :)

Barry-xlovecam 07-19-2011 07:40 AM

Anthropology Reloaded ...

JamesGw 07-19-2011 08:13 AM

It's been pretty clear for a while that cross breeding happened to some degree. The extent is up for debate. I don't know if I've ever read this study. I might have to check it out.

Agent 488 07-19-2011 08:34 AM

i don't think it's such a simple, black or white issue. it's more complex than that.

_Richard_ 07-19-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 18290832)
No, africans developed from Homo Heidelbergensis. Non africans, including asians, have 4% neanderthal dna

from a quick search i have discovered that homo heidelbergensis is a descendant of neanderthal and homo sapiens.. all the 'cross hybrids' aside, if evolution was to take form in terms of our dating, everyone ( and their dog haha) is a descendant of the neanderthal line.. some might be more or less, but how someone makes bullshit news out of this is kinda crazy

anyway, none of this bullshit makes any sense other than 'of course i knew neanderthals were still around.. mouth breathers..' the 30k year time line is funny, as if any of the structures being explored now are to be believed, we were building civilzations with the tech to build pyramids 20k years after the homo sapiens sapiens 'developed'

_Richard_ 07-19-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by calvinawe (Post 18291258)
wait, wasn't Africa the cradle of today's entire humanity?

cradle or testing ground

munki 07-19-2011 08:56 AM

So what you are trying to get as is everyone either has, or wants a lil' munki in 'em?

Chosen 07-19-2011 12:41 PM

Gotta love science :pimp

Mike Honcho 07-19-2011 03:00 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mNk3jAKpRB...ink-746183.jpg

bronco67 07-19-2011 03:40 PM

So then I guess Neanderthals run shit....

camperjohn64 07-19-2011 04:00 PM

So it's confirmed, n1ggas are a different species.

pornmasta 07-20-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18290764)

looks like me

Overload 07-20-2011 06:34 PM

hmm ... just ONE guy can go a long way ... did ya know about 30 MILLION people in asia share DNA parts with Gengis Khan (Djingis Khan)? and the smaller the population the easier it is to "get in the line of breed"

Phoenix 07-20-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18291874)
cradle or testing ground

ooooh...alien genetic experiments?

ilnjscb 07-20-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18291866)
from a quick search i have discovered that homo heidelbergensis is a descendant of neanderthal and homo sapiens.. all the 'cross hybrids' aside, if evolution was to take form in terms of our dating, everyone ( and their dog haha) is a descendant of the neanderthal line.. some might be more or less, but how someone makes bullshit news out of this is kinda crazy

anyway, none of this bullshit makes any sense other than 'of course i knew neanderthals were still around.. mouth breathers..' the 30k year time line is funny, as if any of the structures being explored now are to be believed, we were building civilzations with the tech to build pyramids 20k years after the homo sapiens sapiens 'developed'

You mean ancestor, not descendant.

ilnjscb 07-20-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18290714)
If you don't trace your ancestry to Africa, you're part Neanderthal according to the July issue of Molecular Biology and Evolution scientific journal.

See: http://news.discovery.com/human/gene...al-110718.html

This pretty much proves that Iblis was correct.

$5 submissions 07-21-2011 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18295860)
looks like me

The pre-Raphaelite look is making a comeback

xholly 07-21-2011 06:45 AM



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