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Va2k 07-09-2011 03:28 PM

Need help for kid playing with fire!
 
Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

Tom

porno jew 07-09-2011 03:30 PM

please elaborate.

Va2k 07-09-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18271387)
please elaborate.

um... he took a lighter and burned some small pieces of wood, and some fur from the dog, THE FUR was NOT ON THE DOG at the time!

porno jew 07-09-2011 03:37 PM

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Va2k 07-09-2011 03:38 PM

*pukes* thanks knew you wouldn't let me down brother! Thanks keep them coming please or send to me at [email protected] this I prey will help scare the shit out of him enough not to play with fire!

PornStarToys 07-09-2011 03:41 PM

Have you ever watched Arrested Development?

Make an actual event that scares the crap out of him :)

Or in the movie Shallow Hal it shows kids who were burn victims.

Va2k 07-09-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PornStarToys (Post 18271401)
Have you ever watched Arrested Development?

Make an actual event that scares the crap out of him :)

Or in the movie Shallow Hal it shows kids who were burn victims.

Yea im waiting for the fire dept to call me back, going to try that route as well!

PornStarToys 07-09-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18271397)

That's Harlequin-type ichthyosis

If you really wanted to you could find a bunch of scary pics like that. It's not burn victims but if you're just trying to scare him I guess it works

http://www.google.com/search?q=Harle...1681&bi h=952

Va2k 07-09-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornStarToys (Post 18271405)
That's Harlequin-type ichthyosis

If you really wanted to you could find a bunch of scary pics like that. It's not burn victims but if you're just trying to scare him I guess it works

http://www.google.com/search?q=Harle...1681&bi h=952

Thanks that's the shit I was looking for! Im going to talk with the capt at the fire dept first before I show my 11 year old this, don't want to fuck him up for life, see what they say I should and shouldn't do ya know?

Si 07-09-2011 04:16 PM

Set something he really likes on fire and make him watch it.

Something he thinks wouldn't be replaceable (but is)

The other thing you could do, start teaching him stunts :1orglaugh

beerptrol 07-09-2011 04:28 PM

if you live in a good size city take him to a pediatric burn unit to volunteer for a day or two

Grapesoda 07-09-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 18271384)
Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

Tom

if he still wets the bed.... serial killer :(

Spunky 07-09-2011 05:37 PM

My old man would burn my finger tips,not so they would blister but hurt like hell

woj 07-09-2011 05:42 PM

What's wrong with playing with fire anyway? At least he is doing something active instead of sitting in front of a tv the whole day like most the kids these days...:2 cents:

Coup 07-09-2011 05:46 PM

Search the area for mutilated animals...

MrMaxwell 07-09-2011 06:50 PM

I always burned everything when I was younger. Nothing will scare the kid. Give him a place where he can burn anything he wants. That will do it!!

MrMaxwell 07-09-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 18271412)
Thanks that's the shit I was looking for! Im going to talk with the capt at the fire dept first before I show my 11 year old this, don't want to fuck him up for life, see what they say I should and shouldn't do ya know?


The guy at the fire department will have good information for you, but, he doesn't know what you should or should not expose your kid to - YOU should make that call.

v4 media 07-10-2011 01:17 AM

Don't all kids play with fire?

Sign him up for the scouts, then he can do it safely.

twistyneck 07-10-2011 01:38 AM

All kids are firebugs. Only the dumb ones get caught. You need to teach him better.

raymor 07-10-2011 02:13 AM

I'm more on the teach than just scare side of this. He's at the age where he's supposed to be learning how to build a fire, learn about fireworks, etc. So he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. It's only up to you whether in scouts or in the basement. A healthy respect for fire is part of the learning it's time for, of course. You can choose to teach him how to properly build a safe camp fire, clearing all flammable items well out of area. You can teach him about drought and dry grass. You could also just teach him that dad is an asshole. Learning nothing more than "dad is mean", you'll raise a dumb ass who is also an asshole, just like dad.

Sure make clear to him the damage fire can do, but mainly to make clear what he SHOULD do - learn about fire under adult supervision only, move lighter fluid away before lighting a grill, etc. Teaching SHOULDS serves a man his whole life.

Heck , while he's interested you could probably even suggest that he read up on what fire actually is and the three elements essential to fire and then explain to you what he learned. That's useful, practical knowledge and gets him interested in chemistry and physics.

ottopottomouse 07-10-2011 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 18271393)
um... he took a lighter and burned some small pieces of wood, and some fur from the dog, THE FUR was NOT ON THE DOG at the time!

Bit tame really. I was expecting it to be something like he'd burned someone's house down.

newB 07-10-2011 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media (Post 18271855)
Don't all kids play with fire?

Sign him up for the scouts, then he can do it safely.

I agree. The minimum age requirement is 10 1/2, so he's old enough. Teaching safety is a big part of scouting.

I assume you have already given him a lecture or otherwise reprimanded him for what he has already done. If you continue to dwell on it when he hasn't done anything more, you may be doing more harm than good.

Harmon 07-10-2011 05:02 AM

I'd whip his ass raw with a belt or a length of rubber hose.:2 cents:

BlackCrayon 07-10-2011 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 18271538)
What's wrong with playing with fire anyway? At least he is doing something active instead of sitting in front of a tv the whole day like most the kids these days...:2 cents:

kids need to learn there is a proper time and place and "repect" the power a fire has. kid wants to have a bonfire at night, fine but there is a proper place to do so, a proper way to set it up and a proper way to put it out. maybe put him in scouts or something like that.

Grapesoda 07-10-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18271611)
I always burned everything when I was younger. Nothing will scare the kid. Give him a place where he can burn anything he wants. That will do it!!

hell ya... a few gallons of gas, a lighter and a video camera that uploads to youtube :thumbsup

Va2k 07-10-2011 10:18 AM

Thanks guys, I went the way of grounding him, talking to him taken his games away and then more talk, even suggested we build a camp fire in the back yard. Thanks for all the help
Tom

Socks 07-10-2011 12:37 PM

There's a story in the book Emile by Jean Jacques Rousseau, goes something like this, paraphrased. Emile is about a tutor and his student.

To teach his student, the tutor works out an arrangement with a local farmer to use a small piece of his land for a summer. They go and plant a vegetable garden. Every few days they visit it, and care for the plants as they develop and produce vegetables.

Close to harvest time, the tutor makes sure to convey his excitement at their progress, culminating in harvest day.

The day before they're to harvest the vegetables, the tutor visits the farmer and asks him to cut everything down and save them for him, and that he's trying to teach his student a lesson.

The day arrives and the student is very excited to go and harvest his vegetables. They arrive, and there's nothing left. Everything has been stolen and destroyed. The child bursts into tears. The teacher says not to worry, but that people should respect other people's property. He suggests they should go and talk to the farmer.

The farmer explains that he's very sorry, but he wanted to save them the work and prepare the vegetables for them, a misunderstanding. The child is very happy to have the fruits of his labour back, and has learned really valuable lessons of what it's like to put time and care into something only for someone else to steal or destroy it.

Most importantly, he doesn't just say he understands, but knows exactly what it feels like to find your property destroyed.

There's almost always a sneaky way like this to teach your children by leading them to the solution rather than directly telling them your opinion.

Double trouble 07-10-2011 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media (Post 18271855)

Sign him up for the scouts, then he can do it safely.

good idea :pimp

AmeliaG 07-10-2011 04:00 PM

I played with fire as a kid and nothing terrible happened.

BVF 07-10-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 18271384)
Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

Tom

fuck a picture...use your fist and cave his chest in...that'll learn him!

DaddyHalbucks 07-10-2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 18271384)
Hey folks first back out of hospital once again had a P.E Tue night "Pulmonary embolism" thank god it was small but scared the hell out of me, it hurt worse then when I had my heart attack! They did find another tumor under my arm so have to go back to cancer Dr. sooner then later! Ok enough with that just letting folks know since I haven't been around a lot lately!

now here is the deal, my 11 year old son was caught playing with fire by his mom when he went to visit, I caught him once already! I tried looking for pictures of kids that are burned but can't seem to find any, can anyone point me to the right place to find pictures of kids burned and after they heal what they look like? Thanks a million.

Tom

Sit down with him and bring him up to speed on the arson laws, especially the typical prison sentences.

candyflip 07-10-2011 08:10 PM

Sounds like a real Boy Scout to me.

And I'm being serious. :1orglaugh

papill0n 07-10-2011 08:20 PM

man my brothers and I used to run around with jerry cans full of gas :1orglaugh

dont deprive the little dude!


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