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  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609
    #1

    is this the end of YOUTUBE ?!!!

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s978/show

    "Makes unauthorized web streaming of copyrighted content a felony with a possible penalty of up to 5 years in prison. Illegal streaming of copyrighted content is defined in the bill as an offense that "consists of 10 or more public performances by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copyrighted works" and has a total economic value, either to the copyright holder or the infringer, of at least $2,500."


    it hasn't passed yet , but wouldn't youtube be guilty of this right now ?

    How would/could youtube alter its model to abide by this law ?
    hatisblack at yahoo.com
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    • porno jew
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2006
      • 10166
      #2
      Top recipients for ALL supporting interest groups

      Name Amount Received Vote On Passage
      Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] $2,335,183
      Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY] $2,016,955
      Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY] $1,650,251
      Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA] $1,163,223
      Sen. Michael Bennet [D, CO] $767,772
      Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, VT] $737,110
      Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH] $714,176
      Sen. Mark Kirk [R, IL] $471,721
      Sen. Ron Wyden [D, OR] $423,313
      Sen. Patty Murray [D, WA] $413,000

      Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28] $454,598
      Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1] $360,989
      Rep. Michael Capuano [D, MA-8] $320,580
      Rep. Patrick Meehan [R, PA-7] $249,800
      Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13] $243,319
      Rep. Eric Cantor [R, VA-7] $239,300
      Rep. John Barrow [D, GA-12] $218,080
      Rep. Gary Peters [D, MI-9] $216,748
      Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8] $213,550
      Rep. Carolyn Maloney [D, NY-14] $209,610
      Specific Organizations Supporting S.978

      American Federation of Television and Radio Artists
      Directors Guild of America
      International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States
      Screen Actors Guild
      Motion Picture Association of America
      Recording Industry Association of America
      Independent Film and Television Alliance
      National Association of Theatre Owners
      Ultimate Fighting Championship
      American Federation of Musicians
      American Intellectual Property Law Association
      NBC Universal
      Viacom
      Sony Pictures Entertainment
      American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers
      Association of American Publishers
      Association of Independent Music Publishers
      American Photographic Artists
      AT&T
      Broadcast Music, Inc.
      Business Software Alliance
      CBS Corporation
      Church Music Publishers Association
      Entertainment Software Association
      Graphic Artists Guild
      National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing
      National Association of Broadcasters
      National Collegiate Athletic Association
      National Music Publishers' Association
      National Basketball Association
      News America Holdings
      Newspaper Association of America
      Picture Archive Council of America
      Professional Photographers of America
      Professional School Photographers Association
      Reed Elsevier
      PPL & VPL
      SESAC
      Software & Information Industry Association
      Time Warner
      Universal Music Group
      Magazine Publishers of America
      The Walt Disney Company
      Writers Guild of America, West
      U. S. Chamber of Commerce
      International Brotherhood of Teamsters
      Entertainment Merchants Association
      Global Intellectual Property Center

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        • drmadcat
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2011
          • 2024
          #3
          copyright is a load of crap youtube.com is great
          asiamoviepass.com

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            • bronco67
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2006
              • 29032
              #4
              Wouldn't this shut down most tube sites? Who the fuck really believes that a 40 minute clip from the latest Elegant Angel movie is there legally?

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                • L-Pink
                  working on my tan
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 39151
                  #5
                  Originally posted by drmadcat
                  copyright is a load of crap youtube.com is great
                  Without the content uploaded by non copyright owners there isn't shit worth watching on youtube. Who cares if youtube makes it or not.


                  .

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                    • 96ukssob
                      So Fucking Banananananas
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 12991
                      #6
                      this will be a disaster to manage
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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151
                          #7
                          Originally posted by bossku69
                          this will be a disaster to manage
                          It will manage itself once people start getting in deep shit for their behavior. I mean really, fuck people that mess with the property of others. Just because someone can afford a computer and internet service doesn't give them the right to use the property of others without permission.


                          .

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                            • brassmonkey
                              Pay It Forward
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 77396
                              #8
                              soon the government will control everything you do.
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                                • L-Pink
                                  working on my tan
                                  • Mar 2005
                                  • 39151
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                  soon the government will control everything you do.
                                  "soon" where you been hiding Willis?

                                  .

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                                    • Love Sex
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 1905
                                      #10
                                      its only bad for american uploaders the rest of the world is saying ..|..

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                                        • retards
                                          Registered User
                                          • Apr 2008
                                          • 55
                                          #11
                                          OUCH! I can't believe it's taken this long.
                                          Always looking for non adult sponsors !

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                                            • seeandsee
                                              Check SIG!
                                              • Mar 2006
                                              • 50945
                                              #12
                                              we all expected this, but this opens all new problems about who, when, what, how
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                                                • Captain Kawaii
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Oct 2007
                                                  • 6748
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                  It will manage itself once people start getting in deep shit for their behavior. I mean really, fuck people that mess with the property of others. Just because someone can afford a computer and internet service doesn't give them the right to use the property of others without permission.


                                                  .
                                                  RIGHT ON! Tubes can choke on it! Only THIEVES have complaints about this one.

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                                                    • BFT3K
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                      • 10764
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                      "soon" where you been hiding Willis?.


                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17lMr0j2D8

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                                                        • Captain Kawaii
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Oct 2007
                                                          • 6748
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                                          soon the government will control everything you do.
                                                          You're a bit late on that...

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                                                            • iSpyCams
                                                              Amateur Gynecologist
                                                              • May 2009
                                                              • 4436
                                                              #16
                                                              This would make the majority of the internet either illegal or or useless.
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                                                                • lazycash
                                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 15214
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I'm sure Gideongallery can find a loophole.
                                                                  "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                  Its crazy..."

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                                                                    • dan@noof
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                      • 278
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Google is compiling a file of incriminating evidence, of various wrongdoings committed by these politicians, that its spiders found while crawling the web. Each one will be contacted with copies of those files. This will subsequently die.

                                                                      (my grammar seems fucked, but you get what I'm saying)

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                                                                        • porno jew
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                          • 10166
                                                                          #19
                                                                          people would rather destroy the internet and go back to the dark ages in order to protect their garbage content.

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                                                                            • Nathan
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 3108
                                                                              #20
                                                                              sorry guys, I know you hate me saying this... but USC 17 §512 (DMCA Safe Harbor) limits the other paragraphs, including §506 that this extends to make it a criminal act.

                                                                              So no, this is not the end of youtube.
                                                                              "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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                                                                                • Adwank Pro
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2011
                                                                                  • 141
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by BFT3K


                                                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v17lMr0j2D8
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                                                                                    • brassmonkey
                                                                                      Pay It Forward
                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                      • 77396
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                      "soon" where you been hiding Willis?

                                                                                      .
                                                                                      bullshit wait till they have the id that carries all your info so the government can scan it without confronting you. their already testing a technology that can view items in your car remotely . internet access that has your id # maybe 5 years out?

                                                                                      http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/09...-snooping.html
                                                                                      Last edited by brassmonkey; 06-30-2011, 09:58 AM.
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                                                                                        • cooldude7
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Nov 2009
                                                                                          • 4306
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          never gonna happen.

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                                                                                            • CurrentlySober
                                                                                              Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 38946
                                                                                              #24
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                                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                  • 28609
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nathan
                                                                                                  sorry guys, I know you hate me saying this... but USC 17 §512 (DMCA Safe Harbor) limits the other paragraphs, including §506 that this extends to make it a criminal act.

                                                                                                  So no, this is not the end of youtube.
                                                                                                  i don't pretend to understand the law very well but can you explain/elaborate a bit ?

                                                                                                  In a nutshell are you saying as long as someone abides by dmca then this doesn't apply ? i.e. this only applies to people who ignore dmca ?

                                                                                                  i can prove youtube has ignored dmca requests that would fit the criteria of the above law. i.e. safe harbor would not apply for youtube in my case because they did not abide by the rules, thus as it stands they would be guilty .

                                                                                                  In my case i noticed someone had copied an original video of mine and reposted it under a different account, they did this with several videos. Upon recieving the dmca request they banned my account for copyright violations ( my own original videos ) and left the infringers account open with all my videos.

                                                                                                  seems to me an open and shut case.
                                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                    • Wizzo
                                                                                                      2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                      • Nov 2000
                                                                                                      • 15224
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                                                                                      i bought a pair of levis 501s today...
                                                                                                      Try not to poo in them this time.
                                                                                                      Last edited by Wizzo; 06-30-2011, 10:44 AM.
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                                                                                                        • gideongallery
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                          • 7082
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                          i don't pretend to understand the law very well but can you explain/elaborate a bit ?

                                                                                                          In a nutshell are you saying as long as someone abides by dmca then this doesn't apply ? i.e. this only applies to people who ignore dmca ?

                                                                                                          i can prove youtube has ignored dmca requests that would fit the criteria of the above law. i.e. safe harbor would not apply for youtube in my case because they did not abide by the rules, thus as it stands they would be guilty .

                                                                                                          In my case i noticed someone had copied an original video of mine and reposted it under a different account, they did this with several videos. Upon recieving the dmca request they banned my account for copyright violations ( my own original videos ) and left the infringers account open with all my videos.

                                                                                                          seems to me an open and shut case.
                                                                                                          i call bullshit

                                                                                                          you made a DMCA take down request which specifically identified the EXACT video to take down, and they ignored that info and took down your account instead

                                                                                                          i am betting you made a generic "you need to police every account because i am not going to " BS arguement and they reviewed your account and took your shit down because of another TOS violation.

                                                                                                          “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                                                                                            • cooldude7
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2009
                                                                                                              • 4306
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                                                              Try not to poo in them this time.
                                                                                                              lmao....

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                                                                                                                • halfpint
                                                                                                                  GFY's Halfpint
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                  • 15223
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I wish Google along with everything it owns would just curl up and die, They are one of the worst copyright infringers on the whole of the interwebs, and they are very happy making $$$$$$$ from it with thier bullshit ads everywhere

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                                                                                                                    • DWB
                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                      • 31779
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                                      I'm sure Gideongallery can find a loophole.
                                                                                                                      Last I heard he was expected at Google to provide legal council, then he was headed off to speak at TED.

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                                                                                                                        • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                          Porn Meister
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                          • 16443
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                          i call bullshit

                                                                                                                          you made a DMCA take down request which specifically identified the EXACT video to take down, and they ignored that info and took down your account instead

                                                                                                                          i am betting you made a generic "you need to police every account because i am not going to " BS arguement and they reviewed your account and took your shit down because of another TOS violation.
                                                                                                                          You think he had a video copied and reposted and then turned into a 4 year old and whined via email? Then you think youtube decided to punish the whiner so deleted their account?

                                                                                                                          Which is worse, a youtube who doesnt remove copyrighted materials or a youtube who deletes complainers accounts?
                                                                                                                          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                              • 28609
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                              you made a DMCA take down request which specifically identified the EXACT video to take down, and they ignored that info and took down your account instead
                                                                                                                              yes , thank you for repeating what was already made clear to most people.
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                              i am betting you made a generic "you need to police every account because i am not going to
                                                                                                                              perhaps you have a problem reading or don't understand how the dmca process works..

                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                              they reviewed your account and took your shit down because of another TOS violation.
                                                                                                                              next time read the thread before making foolish shots in the dark. they send users notice if you violate tos, they sent me 2 copyright violations on my original videos then shutdown the account because of "multiple" copyright violations

                                                                                                                              They sent me copyright violations on the original videos of the ones i complained about after i sent them a dmca notice.

                                                                                                                              Basically they got it backwards..

                                                                                                                              I can only assume 1 of 2 things happened.
                                                                                                                              1) the person reviewing the notice actually did make a mistake and did it backwards.
                                                                                                                              2) the person who stole the videos sent a dmca request on my videos once he recieved the violations from youtube ?

                                                                                                                              either way i have sent multiple dmca requests since then and the videos are still up.

                                                                                                                              The account in question is made up of copied videos and is quite obvious they are just reuploading existing videos with alternate descriptions.
                                                                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                                                • NetHorse
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 3526
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Interesting, but definitely not the end of youtube.
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                                                                                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 18208
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by drmadcat
                                                                                                                                      copyright is a load of crap youtube.com is great
                                                                                                                                      you're in this business right?

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                                                                                                                                        • kane
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 20684
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                          yes , thank you for repeating what was already made clear to most people.


                                                                                                                                          perhaps you have a problem reading or don't understand how the dmca process works..



                                                                                                                                          next time read the thread before making foolish shots in the dark. they send users notice if you violate tos, they sent me 2 copyright violations on my original videos then shutdown the account because of "multiple" copyright violations

                                                                                                                                          They sent me copyright violations on the original videos of the ones i complained about after i sent them a dmca notice.

                                                                                                                                          Basically they got it backwards..

                                                                                                                                          I can only assume 1 of 2 things happened.
                                                                                                                                          1) the person reviewing the notice actually did make a mistake and did it backwards.
                                                                                                                                          2) the person who stole the videos sent a dmca request on my videos once he recieved the violations from youtube ?

                                                                                                                                          either way i have sent multiple dmca requests since then and the videos are still up.

                                                                                                                                          The account in question is made up of copied videos and is quite obvious they are just reuploading existing videos with alternate descriptions.
                                                                                                                                          I listen to Howard Stern pretty regularly and one of their guys on the show had a similar situation on Twitter. He set up a twitter account and quickly there were several other people that set up fakes pretending to be him. Most of them were funny and he didn't care but one was saying some really offensive stuff so he contacts Twitter to complain about it and they ended up shutting his account down, but the fake stayed up. He had to jump through a lot of hoops to get his account back online.

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                                                                                                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 42635
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Do you have any idea the number of bills proposed that never pass?

                                                                                                                                              This one doesn't stand a chance.
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                                                                                                                                              Enough Said.

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                                                                                                                                                • u-Bob
                                                                                                                                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 33063
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  *insert hitler is not amused parody youtube video*

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                                                                                                                                                    • marlboroack
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                                                      • 9327
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      No because they don't own the content and they have very strict teams going at it 24.7 to limit all the videos that go viral. Good luck taking Youtube to court anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                        • gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 7082
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                          next time read the thread before making foolish shots in the dark. they send users notice if you violate tos, they sent me 2 copyright violations on my original videos then shutdown the account because of "multiple" copyright violations

                                                                                                                                                          They sent me copyright violations on the original videos of the ones i complained about after i sent them a dmca notice.

                                                                                                                                                          Basically they got it backwards..

                                                                                                                                                          I can only assume 1 of 2 things happened.
                                                                                                                                                          1) the person reviewing the notice actually did make a mistake and did it backwards.
                                                                                                                                                          2) the person who stole the videos sent a dmca request on my videos once he recieved the violations from youtube ?
                                                                                                                                                          seriously man if you filed a proper counter notice you would know exactly which one of these it was

                                                                                                                                                          and you would have the evidence to press charges for fraud if it was the second.


                                                                                                                                                          either way i have sent multiple dmca requests since then and the videos are still up.

                                                                                                                                                          The account in question is made up of copied videos and is quite obvious they are just reuploading existing videos with alternate descriptions.
                                                                                                                                                          leaving a video up after a valid takedown is completely different then having the video be re uploaded with a different description

                                                                                                                                                          especially when the "supposed" copyright holder doesn't file a counter notice when the work is DMCA ed.

                                                                                                                                                          “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                                                                                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 28609
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery

                                                                                                                                                              leaving a video up after a valid takedown is completely different then having the video be re uploaded with a different description
                                                                                                                                                              you obviously can't read very well gideon

                                                                                                                                                              I had an original video , i made myself, everything in it owned by me and created by me

                                                                                                                                                              Someone copied my videos and had them on their channel.

                                                                                                                                                              I noticed these copied videos and filed a valid dmca notice to youtube

                                                                                                                                                              their videos stayed up and i recieved 2 copyright violations on MY account and then a notice that my account was being turned off.

                                                                                                                                                              The law above says youtube committed a felony, they are not protected by dmca safe harbour as they did not remove the video after a valid dmca was filed ,they continue to stream the video.
                                                                                                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                                                                                • gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 7082
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                  you obviously can't read very well gideon

                                                                                                                                                                  I had an original video , i made myself, everything in it owned by me and created by me

                                                                                                                                                                  Someone copied my videos and had them on their channel.

                                                                                                                                                                  I noticed these copied videos and filed a valid dmca notice to youtube

                                                                                                                                                                  their videos stayed up and i recieved 2 copyright violations on MY account and then a notice that my account was being turned off.

                                                                                                                                                                  The law above says youtube committed a felony, they are not protected by dmca safe harbour as they did not remove the video after a valid dmca was filed ,they continue to stream the video.
                                                                                                                                                                  so sue youtube for 25k per view if they don't have safe harbor protection

                                                                                                                                                                  i suspect you did something wrong in your filling because you didn't even fille a counter notice your 2 complaints.


                                                                                                                                                                  and what about this statement do you not understand
                                                                                                                                                                  seriously man if you filed a proper counter notice you would know exactly which one of these it was

                                                                                                                                                                  and you would have the evidence to press charges for fraud if it was the second.
                                                                                                                                                                  your account got banned for multiple copyright violations and you never filed a counter notice.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by gideongallery; 06-30-2011, 08:01 PM.

                                                                                                                                                                  “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Diomed
                                                                                                                                                                      Converting like it's 1999
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2009
                                                                                                                                                                      • 6167
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Youtube,

                                                                                                                                                                      love it or hate it.. serves an incredibly necessary purpose. I'm sure politicians would love to see it go, and have it targeted for the near future.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Zorgman
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6103
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Tubes will end up showing 1-2 minutes then say "click to download" to your computer. Then it's not streaming.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 28609
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                              so sue youtube for 25k per view if they don't have safe harbor protection
                                                                                                                                                                              would rather see them do a 5yr prison stint
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                              i suspect you did something wrong in your filling
                                                                                                                                                                              you suspected wrong, twice.. after it being clearly explained to you..

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                              because you didn't even fille a counter notice your 2 complaints.
                                                                                                                                                                              has nothing to do with the law quoted nor would it invalidate a dmca. Thanks for playing irrelevant comments by gideon
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                              your account got banned for multiple copyright violations and you never filed a counter notice.
                                                                                                                                                                              i was not served with the dmca , youtube was. I never got to see it as my account was banned, all i got was an account notice. I replied to the account notice explaining the situation.

                                                                                                                                                                              You have to find some other reason for it to be ok to steal gideon.
                                                                                                                                                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Diomed
                                                                                                                                                                                  Youtube,

                                                                                                                                                                                  love it or hate it.. serves an incredibly necessary purpose.
                                                                                                                                                                                  what purpose is that?

                                                                                                                                                                                  there was life before youtube, there will be life after.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • pornguy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Love Sex
                                                                                                                                                                                      its only bad for american uploaders the rest of the world is saying ..|..
                                                                                                                                                                                      American people came up with a little quote and lots have found the actual truth of this.

                                                                                                                                                                                      The quote. " The Long Arm of the Law"

                                                                                                                                                                                      Trust me they can and will use it against ANYONE they please.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • gideongallery
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                          would rather see them do a 5yr prison stint


                                                                                                                                                                                          you suspected wrong, twice.. after it being clearly explained to you..



                                                                                                                                                                                          has nothing to do with the law quoted nor would it invalidate a dmca. Thanks for playing irrelevant comments by gideon

                                                                                                                                                                                          i was not served with the dmca , youtube was. I never got to see it as my account was banned, all i got was an account notice. I replied to the account notice explaining the situation.

                                                                                                                                                                                          You have to find some other reason for it to be ok to steal gideon.
                                                                                                                                                                                          there is a huge difference between claiming something and proving something

                                                                                                                                                                                          you claim a billion dollar company is doing something so wrong that it would open them up to an open and shut case for copyright infringement

                                                                                                                                                                                          you haven't proven that at all

                                                                                                                                                                                          i find it hard to believe your statement

                                                                                                                                                                                          especially when you could get paid 25k per hit to the video in question and you choose not to sue for that money.

                                                                                                                                                                                          “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Robbie
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                                                                                                                                                                              This would make the majority of the internet either illegal or or useless.
                                                                                                                                                                                              No...it would mean that the majority of the internet wouldn't be stolen.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Everything on the internet would still be there...but it would be on the OWNERS websites where it belongs.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • JamesGw
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2011
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  This could set a dangerous precedent, but we'll see where it goes.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                                                      there is a huge difference between claiming something and proving something
                                                                                                                                                                                                      thanks for that fucking brilliant observation dumbass

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gideongallery

                                                                                                                                                                                                      a billion dollar company is doing something so wrong that it would open them up to an open and shut case for copyright infringement
                                                                                                                                                                                                      umm glad it only took explaining it 3 times to you before you understand.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you haven't proven that at all
                                                                                                                                                                                                      this isn't a court, and youtube doesn't post here, it would be beyond stupid to give them a jump on the gun.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                                                      i find it hard to believe your statement
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you find it hard to follow simple english so it doesn't suprise me..
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                                                                                                      especially when you could get paid 25k per hit to the video in question and you choose not to sue for that money.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      when did i say i decided not to sue ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      this is where reading really helps gideon.. read the thread.. respond to what is written.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      You have a problem with not reading what is written , asking questions that have already been answered and making shit up out of thin air.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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