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dazzling 06-23-2011 02:47 AM

DuckDuckGo Search Engine
 
Any Feedback on the new DuckDuckGo Search Engine? Im very impressed and think it is in a position to go to the number 1 search engine.....http://duckduckgo.com/

There is an interesting article here about how they are running a grass roots campaign against google....http://searchenginewatch.com/article...iltered-Search

Emil 06-23-2011 02:55 AM

I'm using it but the only reason is that I dont like Google to know everything about me.

ottopottomouse 06-23-2011 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18234724)
I'm using it but the only reason is that I dont like Google to know everything about me.

That's pretty much it's only selling point.

CurrentlySober 06-23-2011 03:46 AM

Well I WIN!

Never heard of it before, but I just put my chosen search term in and I am at NUMBER ONE !!! WOOT WOOT!

dazzling 06-23-2011 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18234724)
I'm using it but the only reason is that I dont like Google to know everything about me.

It is that selling point alone that may just make it the number 1 search engine. If you remember, Google started out in a similar way, promoting itself as the small guy verse the big brother yahoo and msn. The only problem with Google was it became the evil.

There are a lot of people who hate Google and using DuckDuckGo is a nice way of paying out on the google monster.

$5 submissions 06-23-2011 04:07 AM

I love it. I get some hits from it but more importantly I dig their philosophy. Webmasters should promote this SE hard because if you think Panda was rough, brace yourself for worse. The days of autopilot webmastering is over. Google's "quality" demands, while well meaning, just crashes head on with how 80% of webmasters operate. Remember the 80/20 rule :)

TheDoc 06-23-2011 04:47 AM

Nice search engine, I'm ranked well in it... I like http://blekko.com/ as well.

Stef. 06-23-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18234818)
Nice search engine, I'm ranked well in it... I like http://blekko.com/ as well.

yeah blekko is nice. It looks like it's actually giving more importance to keywords in domain name comparing to google.

Klen 06-23-2011 05:25 AM

i rank very good on it,but not a single hit from it yet.

Internet User 06-23-2011 05:26 AM

yeah, definitely looks like a google killer

dazzling 06-23-2011 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RSTGP_Stef (Post 18234863)
yeah blekko is nice. It looks like it's actually giving more importance to keywords in domain name comparing to google.

Blekko is bad news. If some teenager at Blekko decides they dont like your website it is blacklisted for ever. If one of the editors at Blekko has a website in competition with you then your website can get blacklisted. Blekko is the ultimate disaster for webmasters, stay right away from supporting it.

dazzling 06-23-2011 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18234794)
I love it. I get some hits from it but more importantly I dig their philosophy. Webmasters should promote this SE hard because if you think Panda was rough, brace yourself for worse. The days of autopilot webmastering is over. Google's "quality" demands, while well meaning, just crashes head on with how 80% of webmasters operate. Remember the 80/20 rule :)

I love DuckDuckGo too. And agreed, they have a great philosophy that is good news for small webmasters. We should as webmasters be promoting it, and I do. The problem is most webmasters complain about Google but do nothing. Here is a good opportunity for us to fight back and promote a quality search engine for us small webmasters, but the big question is how can we get webmasters organized here on this?

AdultKing 06-23-2011 05:41 AM

Blekko is actually a very poor search engine, DuckDuckGo however are much better.

Blekko, as mentioned, is open to abuse and there have been instances already of vote down wars between different groups to get rid of search results. It's a problem that goes outside what was intended by the developers however it's been difficult for them to solve without killing much of the idea behind Blekko.

DuckDuckGo uses a much more advanced system of filtering spam sites, it seems effective so far.

nico-t 06-23-2011 05:49 AM

damn. My positions are the same as the were a while ago in google, i am ruling the top in this search engine.... lets hope it grows...

TheDoc 06-23-2011 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18234875)
Blekko is bad news. If some teenager at Blekko decides they dont like your website it is blacklisted for ever. If one of the editors at Blekko has a website in competition with you then your website can get blacklisted. Blekko is the ultimate disaster for webmasters, stay right away from supporting it.

Lol... Blekko was created by one of the founders of the Open Directory Project. He's done work for Sun, Aol, Netscape, and other crap... him and his partner run Blekko and are far from teenagers.

It's MUCH more than a search engine, it's a research engine!

AdultKing 06-23-2011 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18234909)
Lol... Blekko was created by one of the founders of the Open Directory Project. He's done work for Sun, Aol, Netscape, and other crap... him and his partner run Blekko and are far from teenagers.

It's MUCH more than a search engine, it's a research engine!

I think he meant that if some people flag your site as spam, then you drop out of the results.

TheDoc 06-23-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18234921)
I think he meant that if some people flag your site as spam, then you drop out of the results.

Log in and and click spam. Then log out and check the results again. It's personal....

AdultKing 06-23-2011 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18234935)
Log in and and click spam. Then log out and check the results again. It's personal....

They must have changed that since I first looked at it, I had the impression it was universal initially.

Caligari 06-23-2011 06:18 AM

duckduckgo is great, i'm already putting it as search on sites replacing or trumping googly and boing in link placement.
i really hope this one catches on and they don't pull the same google crap once they get big.
btw fuck google and bing

ottopottomouse 06-23-2011 06:18 AM

How are they going to compete with "don't know something - Google it"?

"don't know something - DuckDuckGo it" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Caligari 06-23-2011 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18234968)
How are they going to compete with "don't know something - Google it"?

"don't know something - DuckDuckGo it" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Duck It ;)

dazzling 06-23-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18234987)
Duck It ;)

Actually that phrase, "Duck It" sounds catchy. I might post it in their forms.

Like many others im also ranking well in DuckDuckDo, in fact better then any other search engine. What im noticing is they seem to give preference to small webmasters. Maybe thats why people on this forum are ranking so well. But again, how can we collectively help to promote this search engine?

Im wondering if we could form some sort of supporters group? Any ideas?

Caligari 06-23-2011 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18235010)
Actually that phrase, "Duck It" sounds catchy. I might post it in their forms.

Like many others im also ranking well in DuckDuckDo, in fact better then any other search engine. What im noticing is they seem to give preference to small webmasters. Maybe thats why people on this forum are ranking so well. But again, how can we collectively help to promote this search engine?

Im wondering if we could form some sort of supporters group? Any ideas?

adult media outlets like AVN, Xbiz etc to do stories on it, that would help a bit to spread the word in this industry.
also as i said i am listing it on sites as a search method above the others, so on your enter page you have "Exit Here If you Are not of legal age" or whatever instead of linking to Google, link it to DuckDuckGo.com.

i need to check out their widgets to see what they have as well.

i'd love to see this one get very popular.

Brujah 06-23-2011 06:51 AM

It says powered by Bing, built with Yahoo!.

AdultKing 06-23-2011 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18235027)
It says powered by Bing, built with Yahoo!.

That's true, it is only an advanced meta search engine, Bing does the actual web crawling for the bulk of the index.

Brujah 06-23-2011 07:04 AM

I like the very simple API. Just need to find a way to use it now.

Caligari 06-23-2011 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18235027)
It says powered by Bing, built with Yahoo!.

fortunately results bear little or no resemblance to either:thumbsup

dazzling 06-23-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18235022)
adult media outlets like AVN, Xbiz etc to do stories on it, that would help a bit to spread the word in this industry.
also as i said i am listing it on sites as a search method above the others, so on your enter page you have "Exit Here If you Are not of legal age" or whatever instead of linking to Google, link it to DuckDuckGo.com.

i need to check out their widgets to see what they have as well.

i'd love to see this one get very popular.

Placing to link on the "Exit Here If you Are not of legal age" is a good idea. Thankyou. Hopefully others here might do the same. Lets try and give google some competition.

beks001 06-23-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18234721)
Any Feedback on the new DuckDuckGo Search Engine? Im very impressed and think it is in a position to go to the number 1 search engine.....http://duckduckgo.com/

There is an interesting article here about how they are running a grass roots campaign against google....http://searchenginewatch.com/article...iltered-Search


Is there a way to submit to this engine? I like this. :) Thanks for the share!

dazzling 06-23-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by beks001 (Post 18235179)
Is there a way to submit to this engine? I like this. :) Thanks for the share!

You can post a question on their forum about this and they should advice you. I have never submitted to it and all my websites are listed on it.

Just having a look at Alexa and it seems their traffic in the last few weeks is really taking off...http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/duckduckgo.com# I guess they must have been getting some good publicity.
What I can say about DuckDuckGo is that this is the first real search engine that I believe can overtake Google, Bing and Yahoo.

I have been posting all around the various webmaster forums about it and it is getting a lot of attention. The thing I keep reading is how people keep posting how good their websites are showing in the serps on DuckDuckgo.

AdultKing 06-23-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by beks001 (Post 18235179)
Is there a way to submit to this engine? I like this. :) Thanks for the share!


If you allow Bing to crawl your site then there is no need to submit to the site. It uses Bing for core search results and add other 'meta' searches into the mix according to relevance.

AdultKing 06-23-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18235254)
Y
What I can say about DuckDuckGo is that this is the first real search engine that I believe can overtake Google, Bing and Yahoo.

Unless he already has commercial arrangements in place, Bing is going to want to charge for that data at some stage I would imagine.

Perhaps his goal is to get enough support to be able to justify crawling the web himself.

Godsmack 06-23-2011 08:37 AM

there is rumor that if you type Google in DuckDuckGo you will destroy the internet..haven't tried it yet though..

dazzling 06-23-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18235294)
If you allow Bing to crawl your site then there is no need to submit to the site. It uses Bing for core search results and add other 'meta' searches into the mix according to relevance.

I dont understand the tech behind all this but am I correct in guessing that ixquick.com is using a similar structure?

dazzling 06-24-2011 04:22 AM

Was just looking at the stats and they are growing very fast. They are still a long way off the big search engines, but if they continue to grow at this rate within 12 months from now their going to be challenging Google and Bing.....
http://duckduckgo.com/traffic.html

Captain Kawaii 06-24-2011 04:36 AM

Really?
I think its shit. SERPs are so far off its not even funny. Can I get some of what u guys are smokin?

AdultKing 06-24-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18235310)
I dont understand the tech behind all this but am I correct in guessing that ixquick.com is using a similar structure?

Yes, basically what DuckDuckGo does is collects structural information which it uses to order search results, so it grabs information from places like wikipedia, bing, etc and reprocesses them to display results. Duck Duck Go doesn't actually independently crawl the entire web like Bing and Google do. It is dependent on other search engines to do that and store the huge amounts of data. Apparently he uses less than 1TB of disk for the entire platform.

dazzling 06-24-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18237440)
Yes, basically what DuckDuckGo does is collects structural information which it uses to order search results, so it grabs information from places like wikipedia, bing, etc and reprocesses them to display results. Duck Duck Go doesn't actually independently crawl the entire web like Bing and Google do. It is dependent on other search engines to do that and store the huge amounts of data. Apparently he uses less than 1TB of disk for the entire platform.

Well he is doing a much better job of it then ixquick.com. I suspect its only a matter of time before we see a few more search engines like these two enter the market doing the same thing. I guess you could call them scrappers. In the end, I must admit I like them. And if I had the ability Id be looking to do the same.

AdultKing 06-24-2011 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18237506)
Well he is doing a much better job of it then ixquick.com. I suspect its only a matter of time before we see a few more search engines like these two enter the market doing the same thing. I guess you could call them scrappers. In the end, I must admit I like them. And if I had the ability Id be looking to do the same.

At the end of the day though, they are reliant on others crawling efforts. This is a problem, because if something doesn't appear in the Bing index then it is unlikely to appear in DuckDuckGo results unless DuckDuckGo crawls those sites itself.

dazzling 06-24-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18237537)
At the end of the day though, they are reliant on others crawling efforts. This is a problem, because if something doesn't appear in the Bing index then it is unlikely to appear in DuckDuckGo results unless DuckDuckGo crawls those sites itself.

It seems they are drawing results from around 30 resources, Im guessing Bing is the dominant here.
They do mention they also have their own crawler....http://duckduckgo.com/duckduckbot.html

It may be as time goes by they may develop and rely on that crawler more.

From their website....Where do you get your results?
From over 30 sources, including DuckDuckBot (our own crawler), crowd-sourced sites (in our own index), Yahoo! BOSS, embed.ly, WolframAlpha, EntireWeb, Bing & Blekko.

Any idea how many servers their using to power all this?

Klen 06-24-2011 08:51 AM

Blekko look like a joke,especially if ODP people are founders where you needed to pay editor 5000$ if you want to add your link there.

Chris 06-24-2011 08:58 AM

horrible results

looked up some basic products and they are all major blog spam pages

TheDoc 06-24-2011 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18237570)
Blekko look like a joke,especially if ODP people are founders where you needed to pay editor 5000$ if you want to add your link there.

So.... what you're saying is, you never checked it out?

AdultKing 06-24-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 18237562)
It seems they are drawing results from around 30 resources, Im guessing Bing is the dominant here.
They do mention they also have their own crawler....http://duckduckgo.com/duckduckbot.html

It may be as time goes by they may develop and rely on that crawler more.

From their website....Where do you get your results?
From over 30 sources, including DuckDuckBot (our own crawler), crowd-sourced sites (in our own index), Yahoo! BOSS, embed.ly, WolframAlpha, EntireWeb, Bing & Blekko.

Any idea how many servers their using to power all this?

http://www.gabrielweinberg.com/blog/...hitecture.html

and

http://www.businessinsider.com/gabri...kduckgo-2011-1

answers a bit about architecture, in the second link he answers questions.

Kiopa_Matt 06-24-2011 10:31 AM

Nice search engine, but DuckDuckGo? Isn't that a game we all played when we were 3? "Duck, duck, duck, duck, goose!"

Just seems a weird name of a search engine. "Just Google it" versus "Just DuckDuckGo it".

Chosen 06-24-2011 01:29 PM

Not working for me.
Quote:

Safe search is on. No safe search results.
:pimp

dazzling 06-24-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18237570)
Blekko look like a joke,especially if ODP people are founders where you needed to pay editor 5000$ if you want to add your link there.

You are right, Blekko is the biggest joke on the internet and I will give you a classic example of just how pathetic this search engine is and why their heading in the wrong direction.

A while ago there was a discussion on Blekko on one of the webmaster forums, everyone was given a challenge to find very hard to get information on the internet using Google, Bing and Blekko search. In the end we could only find 3 websites on the internet with the information. All three were listed in the top 5 serps on google and bing. Blekko had none. And the reason why blekko had none was because they had banned the only websites that actually had the information. And that is why Blekko are idiots and their search engine is a joke. All they do is sit around banning websites till they have now got to the point that no-one can find the information their seeking on blekko because its all banned. Talk about a bunch of idiots that run blekko. Blekko need to stop banning websites and start focusing on delivering the best results.

dazzling 06-24-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 18237804)
Nice search engine, but DuckDuckGo? Isn't that a game we all played when we were 3? "Duck, duck, duck, duck, goose!"

Just seems a weird name of a search engine. "Just Google it" versus "Just DuckDuckGo it".


From their website....

What's with the name?
It is derived from Duck Duck Goose, but it's not a metaphor?really. If you're wondering how you would turn that into a verb...Duck it!

papill0n 06-24-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18234909)
Lol... Blekko was created by one of the founders of the Open Directory Project. He's done work for Sun, Aol, Netscape, and other crap... him and his partner run Blekko and are far from teenagers.

It's MUCH more than a search engine, it's a research engine!

you gotta admit it sounds his post did describe a lot ODP editors

TheDoc 06-24-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18238951)
you gotta admit it sounds his post did describe a lot ODP editors

Yes, I guess that is true..

I don't think they'll make the same mistake twice though.


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