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  • onwebcam
    Fake Nick 1.0
    • Oct 2005
    • 27689

    #1

    What do you make of Anonymous' recent activity




    Greetings, members of NATO. We are Anonymous.

    In a recent publication, you have singled out Anonymous as a threat to "government and the people". You have also alleged that secrecy is a 'necessary evil' and that transparency is npt always the right way forward.

    Anonymous would like to remind you that the government and the people are, contrary to the supposed foundations of "democracy", distinct entities with often conflicting goals and desires. It is Anonymous' position that when there is a conflict of interest between the government and the people, it is the people's will which must take priority. The only threat transparency poses to government is to threaten government's ability to act in a manner which the people would disagree with, without having to face democratic consequences and accountability for such behaviour. Your own report cites a perfect example of this, the Anonymous attack on HBGary. Whether HBGary were acting in the cause of security or military gain is irrelevant - their actions were illegal and morally reprehensible. Anonymous does not accept that the government and/or the military has the right to be above the law and to use the phoney cliche of "national security" to justify illegal and deceptive activities. If the government must break the rules, they must also be willing to accept the democratic consequences of this at the ballot box.We do not accept the current status quo whereby a government can tell one story to the people and another in private. Dishonesty and secrecy totally undermine the concept of self rule. How can the people judge for whom to vote unless they are fully aware of what policies said politicians are actually pursuing?

    When a government is elected, it is said to "represent" the nation it governs. This essentially means that the actions of a government are not the actions of the people in government, but are actions taken on behalf of every citizen in that country. It is unacceptable to have a situation in which the people are, in many cases, totally and utterly unaware of what is being said and done on their behalf - behind closed doors.

    Anonymous and WikiLeaks are distinct entities. The actions of Anonymous were not aided or even requested by WikiLeaks. However, Anonymous and WikiLeaks do share one common attribute: They are no threat to any organization - unless that organization is doing something wrong and attempting to get away with it.

    We do not wish to threaten anybody's way of life. We do not wish to dictate anything to anybody. We do not wish to terrorize any nation.

    We merely wish to remove power from vested interests and return it to the people - who, in a democracy, it should never have been taken from in the first place.
    The government makes the law. This does not give them the right to break it. If the government was doing nothing underhand or illegal, there would be nothing "embarassing" about Wikileaks revelations, nor would there have been any scandal emanating from HBGary. The resulting scandals were not a result of Anonymous' or Wikileaks' revelations, they were the result of the CONTENT of those revelations. And responsibility for that content can be laid solely at the doorstep of policymakers who, like any corrupt entity, naively believed that they were above the law and that they would not be caught.

    A lot of government and corporate comment has been dedicated to "how we can avoid a similar leak in the future". Such advice ranges from better security, to lower levels of clearance, from harsher penalties for whistleblowers, to censorship of the press.

    Our message is simple: Do not lie to the people and you won't have to worry about your lies being exposed. Do not make corrupt deals and you won't have to worry about your corruption being laid bare. Do not break the rules and you won't have to worry about getting in trouble for it.

    Do not attempt to repair your two faces by concealing one of them. Instead, try having only one face - an honest, open and democratic one.

    You know you do not fear us because we are a threat to society. You fear us because we are a threat to the established hierarchy. Anonymous has proven over the last several years that a hierarchy is not necessary in order to achieve great progress - perhaps what you truly fear in us, is the realization of your own irrelevance in an age which has outgrown its reliance on you. Your true terror is not in a collective of activists, but in the fact that you and everything you stand for have, by the changing tides and the advancement of technology, are now surplus to requirements.

    Finally, do not make the mistake of challenging Anonymous. Do not make the mistake of believing you can behead a headless snake. If you slice off one head of Hydra, ten more heads will grow in its place. If you cut down one Anon, ten more will join us purely out of anger at your trampling of dissent.

    Your only chance of defeating the movement which binds all of us is to accept it. This is no longer your world. It is our world - the people's world.

    We are Anonymous.
    We are legion.
    We do not forgive.
    We do not forget.
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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #2
    i wonder how much stephen hawking charged them to do that voice-over?

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    • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2011
      • 1241

      #3
      Anonymous... Good luck taking on the federal reserve.

      I have my doubts anything will make headlines.
      If anyone in Anonymous is successful in hurting the Federal Reserve. Anonymous members will die mysteriously or be never heard from again.

      In short you will die trying. Literally.

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      • Just Alex
        Liv Benson to You, Bitch
        • Aug 2007
        • 6060

        #4
        Ddid they arrest some of those guys the other day?

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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5

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          • halfpint
            GFY's Halfpint
            • Jun 2007
            • 15223

            #6
            I heard on the news that the Military have had over 1000 hack attacks this year alone. Its getting worse every year

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            • scarlettcontent
              www.scarlettcontent.net
              • Mar 2006
              • 6031

              #7
              stephen hawking knows what going on


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              • halfpint
                GFY's Halfpint
                • Jun 2007
                • 15223

                #8
                Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
                Anonymous... Good luck taking on the federal reserve.

                I have my doubts anything will make headlines.
                If anyone in Anonymous is successful in hurting the Federal Reserve. Anonymous members will die mysteriously or be never heard from again.

                In short you will die trying. Literally.
                Thats if they can back trace them cause they are not run like other hacking groups


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                • V_RocKs
                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32451

                  #9
                  Spoken like true Vendetta's

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                  • BFT3K
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 10764

                    #10
                    I'm glad they seem to be focusing on more important matters nowadays. Their previous obsession with Scientology was getting pretty stale and boring.

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                    • L-Pink
                      working on my tan
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 39151

                      #11
                      Breaking and entering is breaking and entering.

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                      • _Richard_
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30989

                        #12
                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                        Breaking and entering is breaking and entering.
                        funny the conflict that has with their own words

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                        • dan@noof
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2008
                          • 278

                          #13
                          I really wanted to believe that these guys could do something when they first went after Scientology. But they did nothing. How has Scientology been affected by them?

                          Meh.

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                          • Caligari
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                            • Oct 2009
                            • 5414

                            #14
                            that is some pretty core shit.
                            so what do you think they have planned for tomorrow the 14th?
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                            • PR_Glen
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                              • Oct 2006
                              • 9058

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
                              Anonymous... Good luck taking on the federal reserve.

                              I have my doubts anything will make headlines.
                              If anyone in Anonymous is successful in hurting the Federal Reserve. Anonymous members will die mysteriously or be never heard from again.

                              In short you will die trying. Literally.
                              there's no need in the world for them to kill anyone if what they are doing is illegal in the least...
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                              • ottopottomouse
                                She is ugly, bad luck.
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 13177

                                #16
                                Love the hypocrisy of justifying breaking the law by alleging their targets were breaking the law first.
                                ↑ see post ↑
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                                • L-Pink
                                  working on my tan
                                  • Mar 2005
                                  • 39151

                                  #17
                                  Put them in prison.

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                                  • u-Bob
                                    there's no $$$ in porn
                                    • Jul 2005
                                    • 33063

                                    #18
                                    this should get interesting

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                                    • TangibleAsset
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2011
                                      • 413

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                      Put them in prison.
                                      Why?

                                      Everything discussed in the video is true. It's good to see Anonymous doing something productive for once.

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                                      • CyberHustler
                                        Masterbaiter
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 28777

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                        i wonder how much stephen hawking charged them to do that voice-over?
                                        “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                        • L-Pink
                                          working on my tan
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 39151

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TangibleAsset
                                          Why?

                                          Everything discussed in the video is true. It's good to see Anonymous doing something productive for once.
                                          True or false is not the issue ...

                                          How exactly is this different than physically breaking into an office, bypassing the security systems taking confidential files from a desk or file cabinet then making them public?

                                          I know, I know, it was done from your mother's basement and you didn't have to leave your semen infested bedroom but still .......


                                          .

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                                          • D Ghost
                                            null
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 9819

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by dan@noof
                                            I really wanted to believe that these guys could do something when they first went after Scientology. But they did nothing. How has Scientology been affected by them?

                                            Meh.
                                            Scientology has a pretty ruined reputation from what I see here in the Bay Area, and from talking with others.

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                                            • C H R I S
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                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 10842

                                              #23
                                              Hmmmmmmmm... interesting
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                                              • TheSquealer
                                                Mayor of Thneedville
                                                • Oct 2004
                                                • 26261

                                                #24
                                                "The good guys" aren't typically the ones making threats.

                                                What a bunch of idiotic children.
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                                                • marketsmart
                                                  HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 20419

                                                  #25
                                                  LOL at all the sheep that are replying exactly the way you have been trained to reply..

                                                  i want you all to take a few moments and think not about the how, but the why..

                                                  go back and learn some american history and you will realize that although the methods may not be something you can take hold of, the principal is sound..

                                                  america needs a revolution to get back on track and this is just the kind of radical rhetoric that led to the american revolution.

                                                  you may bot agree with the tactics, but the tactics are just the tip of the avalanche that might just get the snowball moving..

                                                  america is at a tipping point that if moved in the wrong direction could alter life as we know it..

                                                  everything anon is saying is true.. the financial institutions are raping the american people of not only their money, but also their freedoms...

                                                  if nothing is done, you might wake up one day and wish you had done something before it was too late..

                                                  a lot of people viewed what the founding fathers were doing prior to the american revolution as radical or outright stupid, but their vigor led to one of the greatest changes in history that was ever seen..

                                                  if we, as americans, don't stand up to the select few that are shaping domestic and foreign policy, we will one day realize that we made the biggest mistake that was ever made..

                                                  although i may not support everything anon stands for or their methods, i do support their idea of doing something to create change..

                                                  i would encourage people to start waking up and getting involved in what is happenign around them..

                                                  whether that be learning some history or getting involved in doing something that leads to positve change, anything is better than sitting around and doing nothing..




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                                                  • theking
                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 21053

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                    LOL at all the sheep that are replying exactly the way you have been trained to reply..

                                                    i want you all to take a few moments and think not about the how, but the why..

                                                    go back and learn some american history and you will realize that although the methods may not be something you can take hold of, the principal is sound..

                                                    america needs a revolution to get back on track and this is just the kind of radical rhetoric that led to the american revolution.

                                                    you may bot agree with the tactics, but the tactics are just the tip of the avalanche that might just get the snowball moving..

                                                    america is at a tipping point that if moved in the wrong direction could alter life as we know it..

                                                    everything anon is saying is true.. the financial institutions are raping the american people of not only their money, but also their freedoms...

                                                    if nothing is done, you might wake up one day and wish you had done something before it was too late..

                                                    a lot of people viewed what the founding fathers were doing prior to the american revolution as radical or outright stupid, but their vigor led to one of the greatest changes in history that was ever seen..

                                                    if we, as americans, don't stand up to the select few that are shaping domestic and foreign policy, we will one day realize that we made the biggest mistake that was ever made..

                                                    although i may not support everything anon stands for or their methods, i do support their idea of doing something to create change..

                                                    i would encourage people to start waking up and getting involved in what is happenign around them..

                                                    whether that be learning some history or getting involved in doing something that leads to positve change, anything is better than sitting around and doing nothing..




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                                                    If the American people are interested in a "revolution/change" every two-four and six years they are offered the opportunity to do so via the power of the vote. It is up to the people to exercise that power or not. In between those years the people have the power to contact the ones that they previously elected to represent them and let them know their thoughts and provide those that represent them with their marching orders. The people also have the power of lawful assembly to let their voices be heard by those in power.
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                                                    • onwebcam
                                                      Fake Nick 1.0
                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 27689

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by theking
                                                      If the American people are interested in a "revolution/change" every two-four and six years they are offered the opportunity to do so via the power of the vote. It is up to the people to exercise that power or not. In between those years the people have the power to contact the ones that they previously elected to represent them and let them know their thoughts and provide those that represent them with their marching orders. The people also have the power of lawful assembly to let their voices be heard by those in power.
                                                      The elections are fixed. You know it, I know, everyone knows it. The only people who are allowed to get anywhere in them are those who support all of this. Look at the way things went with the debate tonight. The only one really talking about these issues is Ron Paul. But every article that came out and every news story on it just gave him an honorable mention. The chosen ones were put to the front of the line as usual.

                                                      It would take decades to undo what has been done via elections. By then you will be one dead SSI recipient. BTW did you know that these same people have an insurance policy on your (a veterans) life and when you die it goes to the bankers and not your family??
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                                                      • moeloubani
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                                                        • Dec 2007
                                                        • 4235

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by theking
                                                        If the American people are interested in a "revolution/change" every two-four and six years they are offered the opportunity to do so via the power of the vote. It is up to the people to exercise that power or not. In between those years the people have the power to contact the ones that they previously elected to represent them and let them know their thoughts and provide those that represent them with their marching orders. The people also have the power of lawful assembly to let their voices be heard by those in power.
                                                        choosing between a or b is barely a choice

                                                        if i say you are free to eat whatever you'd like and place only an apple and a cob of corn in front of you i may as well have said you can only eat apples and corn

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                                                        • Martin
                                                          "Assassins"
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 17274

                                                          #29
                                                          Well what he says is tru, but nothing is going to be done about it.

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                                                          • Captain Kawaii
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                            • 6748

                                                            #30
                                                            I like anonymous...they are good to have around.

                                                            case in point...http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theloo...ion-funds-lost

                                                            ask kissinger and his dick sucking protege where the cash is..
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                                                            • Captain Kawaii
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                              • 6748

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by moeloubani
                                                              choosing between a or b is barely a choice

                                                              if i say you are free to eat whatever you'd like and place only an apple and a cob of corn in front of you i may as well have said you can only eat apples and corn
                                                              the american politcal system is so rigged its not even funny. americans have the power to pay their taxes and their cable bills and 3 dollar an hour illegal nannies teaching their kids pigeon spanish. lol.

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                                                              • theking
                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 21053

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                The elections are fixed. You know it, I know, everyone knows it. The only people who are allowed to get anywhere in them are those who support all of this. Look at the way things went with the debate tonight. The only one really talking about these issues is Ron Paul. But every article that came out and every news story on it just gave him an honorable mention. The chosen ones were put to the front of the line as usual.

                                                                It would take decades to undo what has been done via elections. By then you will be one dead SSI recipient. BTW did you know that these same people have an insurance policy on your (a veterans) life and when you die it goes to the bankers and not your family??
                                                                Elections are not "fixed"...and there are about forty or fifty federally registered political parties currently in existence that run candidates for federal office and the people have the power to create new political parties. It is not a matter of selecting one of the two dominate parties...it is a matter of the people exercising the power they have to initiate "revolution/change"...via the vote.

                                                                It has been clear to me my entire life that the majority of the people prefer to accept their fate and then moan about that fate rather than exercise the power that has been provided to them.

                                                                It is government by the people and for the people only when the people exercise it...but the majority of the people prefer just to moan and say "something needs to be done" and then do nothing themselves.

                                                                I seriously doubt that one person per thousand even know the name of their own Congressman or Senator...and that one in ten thousand has ever contacted their Congressman or Senator.
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                                                                • crockett
                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 76818

                                                                  #33
                                                                  It's hard to say what a group of hackers could do in this time and age. I think it's pretty safe to say that an example could come from Wikileaks & Bradley Manning.

                                                                  Regardless of Manning's reasons, if he were right or wrong or if you agree with what he did or not, one thing is certain his leak/theft changed the world. He started the chain reaction, which has toppled govts with-in the middle east, a chain reaction that is still ongoing today.

                                                                  That one act showed what can happen because a govt secret's were released, so only time will tell if these guys are just out to blow their own horn or do something useful.
                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                  • onwebcam
                                                                    Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                    • 27689

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                    Elections are not "fixed"...and there are about forty or fifty federally registered political parties currently in existence that run candidates for federal office and the people have the power to create new political parties. It is not a matter of selecting one of the two dominate parties...it is a matter of the people exercising the power they have to initiate "revolution/change"...via the vote.

                                                                    It has been clear to me my entire life that the majority of the people prefer to accept their fate and then moan about that fate rather than exercise the power that has been provided to them.

                                                                    It is government by the people and for the people only when the people exercise it...but the majority of the people prefer just to moan and say "something needs to be done" and then do nothing themselves.

                                                                    I seriously doubt that one person per thousand even know the name of their own Congressman or Senator...and that one in ten thousand has ever contacted their Congressman or Senator.
                                                                    You're delusional old man. Time to take the dog and head for the hills. The only people who make it on the ballot in 99% of the cases are one of two sides each of which 1 or 2 pre-selected, bankrolled and promoted media created frontrunners are in. Where would an independent get the 1 billion dollars Obama will spend on his campaign? Not from Government Sachs hes got that sowed up.
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                                                                    • Kiopa_Matt
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                                                                      • Oct 2007
                                                                      • 1448

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                      True or false is not the issue ...

                                                                      How exactly is this different than physically breaking into an office, bypassing the security systems taking confidential files from a desk or file cabinet then making them public?
                                                                      Because the files are created by the government, which is created by the people, for the people, to serve the people. Technically, those files belong to every citizen of the US, and should be publicly available.

                                                                      I like what they're doing. Helping push back from the pendulum swinging can't hurt anything. I know they want the pendulum to swing in the other direction, but that's simply not going to happen. Nonetheless, kudos to them.
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                                                                      • DiF0r
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                                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                                        • 1516

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
                                                                        Anonymous... Good luck taking on the federal reserve.

                                                                        I have my doubts anything will make headlines.
                                                                        If anyone in Anonymous is successful in hurting the Federal Reserve. Anonymous members will die mysteriously or be never heard from again.

                                                                        In short you will die trying. Literally.
                                                                        Exactly, there was a young hacker in our country that broke in our bank and found a big vulnerability in the system and even transferred a very small amount of money just to prove that.. He tried to make some money with reporting this issue to the bank but guess what, 1 week later "he committed suicide". RIGHT
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                                                                        • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Apr 2011
                                                                          • 1241

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Make no mistake the system regarding banking and the Fed is serious bidness they will kill shit with no remorse at the drop of a hat. You people think for a minute that the Federal Reserve and the US Government won't react?

                                                                          Think again. If they can snuff you quietly they will, if they have to snuff you out with a big bang they will, if they have to lay waste to two countries to find you they will.


                                                                          These days the only vote that will ever count are ones done with bullets, that is about the only thing that will be understood.Thats the way it has always been. Want a revolution? Be my fucking guest, and good fucking luck.

                                                                          I will just stand over here and watch the shit from afar.
                                                                          Just know that the guys in power some of them have no other intention than if they can not steal from you they will kill you and take what they want and find the means to do it legally and then sell your fucking body organs for a bonus.
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                                                                          • theking
                                                                            Nice Kitty
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 21053

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                            You're delusional old man. Time to take the dog and head for the hills. The only people who make it on the ballot in 99% of the cases are one of two sides each of which 1 or 2 pre-selected, bankrolled and promoted frontrunners are in. Where would an independent get the 1 billion dollars Obama will spend on his campaign? Not from Government Sachs hes got that sowed up.
                                                                            They will get the money from the people...when the people choose to exercise their power...much the same as the majority of President Obama's money came from the people during his first run as a candidate. The reason that there are two dominate parties is because the people have allowed it/preferred it and continue to do so.
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                                                                            • d-null
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                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                              • 13724

                                                                              #39

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                                                                              • onwebcam
                                                                                Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 27689

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                They will get the money from the people...when the people choose to exercise their power...much the same as the majority of President Obama's money came from the people during his first run as a candidate. The reason that there are two dominate parties is because the people have allowed it/preferred it and continue to do so.
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                                                                                Goldman Sachs $994,795
                                                                                Harvard University $854,747
                                                                                Microsoft Corp $833,617
                                                                                Google Inc $803,436
                                                                                Citigroup Inc $701,290
                                                                                JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
                                                                                Time Warner $590,084
                                                                                Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
                                                                                Stanford University $586,557
                                                                                National Amusements Inc $551,683
                                                                                UBS AG $543,219
                                                                                Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
                                                                                Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
                                                                                IBM Corp $528,822
                                                                                Columbia University $528,302
                                                                                Morgan Stanley $514,881
                                                                                General Electric $499,130
                                                                                US Government $494,820
                                                                                Latham & Watkins $493,835

                                                                                http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...&cid=n00009638


                                                                                Everyone else



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                                                                                • theking
                                                                                  Nice Kitty
                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 21053

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                                                  The people..

                                                                                  Barack Obama (D)
                                                                                  Top Contributors

                                                                                  University of California $1,591,395
                                                                                  Goldman Sachs $994,795
                                                                                  Harvard University $854,747
                                                                                  Microsoft Corp $833,617
                                                                                  Google Inc $803,436
                                                                                  Citigroup Inc $701,290
                                                                                  JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
                                                                                  Time Warner $590,084
                                                                                  Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
                                                                                  Stanford University $586,557
                                                                                  National Amusements Inc $551,683
                                                                                  UBS AG $543,219
                                                                                  Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
                                                                                  Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
                                                                                  IBM Corp $528,822
                                                                                  Columbia University $528,302
                                                                                  Morgan Stanley $514,881
                                                                                  General Electric $499,130
                                                                                  US Government $494,820
                                                                                  Latham & Watkins $493,835

                                                                                  http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...&cid=n00009638


                                                                                  Everyone else



                                                                                  Those numbers represent a fraction of the approximate $750 million dollars contributed. The bulk of his money came from individuals donating $1,000 dollars or less...the people...even PAC money is from the people.
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                                                                                  • onwebcam
                                                                                    Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                    • 27689

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                    Those numbers represent a fraction of the approximate $750 million dollars contributed. The bulk of his money came from individuals donating $1,000 dollars or less...the people...even PAC money is from the people.
                                                                                    In comparison

                                                                                    John McCain (R)
                                                                                    Top Contributors


                                                                                    Merrill Lynch $373,595
                                                                                    Citigroup Inc $322,051
                                                                                    Morgan Stanley $273,452
                                                                                    Goldman Sachs $230,095
                                                                                    JPMorgan Chase & Co $228,107
                                                                                    US Government $208,379
                                                                                    AT&T Inc $201,438
                                                                                    Wachovia Corp $195,063
                                                                                    UBS AG $192,493
                                                                                    Credit Suisse Group $183,353
                                                                                    PricewaterhouseCoopers $167,900
                                                                                    US Army $167,820
                                                                                    Bank of America $166,026
                                                                                    Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher $159,596
                                                                                    Blank Rome LLP $154,226
                                                                                    Greenberg Traurig LLP $146,437
                                                                                    US Dept of Defense $144,105
                                                                                    FedEx Corp $131,974
                                                                                    Bear Stearns $117,498
                                                                                    Lehman Brothers $114,357

                                                                                    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...&cid=N00006424


                                                                                    I take it you've never worked for a large corporation? One who makes a donation in your name and/or "suggests" you do so for job security? And you obviously ignored the vids.
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                                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 41470

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      good luck herding cats
                                                                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                      • Sausage
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 3012

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Well fed & entertained people don't revolt.
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                                                                                        • Kiopa_Matt
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2007
                                                                                          • 1448

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Sausage
                                                                                          Well fed & entertained people don't revolt.
                                                                                          Did you hear Lindsay Lohen went to jail (again!). I found out while I was driving home in my SUV, eating a Wendy's triple bacon cheeseburger.
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                                                                                          • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Apr 2011
                                                                                            • 1241

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Sausage
                                                                                            Well fed & entertained people don't revolt.
                                                                                            +1

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                                                                                            • shade001
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                                              • 396

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by theking
                                                                                              The people also have the power of lawful assembly to let their voices be heard by those in power.
                                                                                              Not anymore, you don't. You have a peaceful protest and the riot police show up with sonic weapons, tear gas and batons. For the naive or uninformed, which seems to be most, just look on Youtube.

                                                                                              When your legal responses are taken away from you the only response you have left.........are illegal ones. I laugh at those who take the side of despotism.

                                                                                              Let the blood of patriots and tyrants fall.
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                                                                                              • u-Bob
                                                                                                there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                                                • 33063

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                the power of the vote. It is up to the people to exercise that power or not. In between those years the people have the power to contact the ones that they previously elected to represent them and let them know their thoughts and provide those that represent them with their marching orders.
                                                                                                ah, the greatest illusion of our times... the idea that people are somehow able to change the system by voting....

                                                                                                I'd LOL if it weren't so very sad.

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                                                                                                • u-Bob
                                                                                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                  • 33063

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  http://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-Edw.../dp/0970312598

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                                                                                                  • tony286
                                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 57021

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    The only thing about all this hacking lately. Its becoming a much larger problem. Are governments going to start locking down the net? They arent just hitting USA sites. That of course would suck for us.

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