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SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:10 PM

Convicted Drug Dealer In A Community: What To Do?
 
An interesting quandry has arisen, so I am looking for your opinions.

Let us say that a member of a community becomes aware that a convicted drug dealer has moved into that community. Now we are talking convicted in federal court and did federal time for cocaine sales, not a misdemeanor pot charge.

I think it's fair to say that drug dealers don't care who they sell to, so they endanger a lot of people, including children by the dozens.

Even if the drug dealer may have served his time and maybe even had the "record" expunged, newspaper articles still exist describing the arrest, the trial and the conviction, as newspapers archive everthing. Court documents outlining all this also still exist as a matter of public record but you have to know how and where to find them. Let us further say that such records may have been found from publicly accessible sources.

What, if any right does the community have to know about this?

Does the Leopard change its spots?

Should all be forgiven?

Should the community be advised?

The Community seeks your comments!


AdPatron 06-01-2011 08:12 PM

I wouldn't worry about it.

CyberHustler 06-01-2011 08:15 PM

You're a creep... He should be worried about YOU!

JFK 06-01-2011 08:16 PM

stop being coy if you have info , spit it out:thumbsup

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornless (Post 18187449)
I wouldn't worry about it.

Would you tell that to the parents of the gradeschool children who may live only a few houses away from the "former" Pusher Man?

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18187457)
stop being coy if you have info , spit it out:thumbsup

That's One for the Community!

solopimps 06-01-2011 08:19 PM

Well keep in mind the dealer may have straightened his life out, maybe he served his time, learned his lesson and is ready to move on with his life.

If he is still dealing drugs I highly doubt he would be selling to kids in the neighborhood, that's simply retarded.

On another note, if he is somehow selling drugs in the neighborhood and the kids are buying them, then it's the parents and the kids who are the real issue, not the dealer.
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

L-Pink 06-01-2011 08:19 PM

Sounds like you're just pissed he wouldn't give you credit.

96ukssob 06-01-2011 08:19 PM

you shouldnt live in a hotel :2 cents:

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18187457)
stop being coy if you have info , spit it out:thumbsup

The "jury" is still out on this one but you have voted and your vote COUNTS!

Robbie 06-01-2011 08:21 PM

First off...if he's a federally convicted coke dealer, that would probably mean he was moving KILOS of cocaine at one time.

So even if he was still in business...nobody in your neighborhood would be able to buy any from him. He wasn't a "dealer". He was THE MAN. And people don't buy coke from the MAN unless you are Keith Richards.
You buy coke from the little guys who get ounces and cut it up into eight balls and grams.

The great probability is that he is under a lot of scrutiny anyway if he served time for a federal offense. He's no longer under the radar and his connections more than likely wouldn't deal with him anymore even if he wanted to.

Cocaine shouldn't be illegal anyway. So I wouldn't worry about it. I'd be more worried about the police state we live in that tells us what we can and can't do...right down to snorting a line of cocaine.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18187463)
you shouldnt live in a hotel :2 cents:

Sorry, older Midwestern community, experienceing a revival including families with children.

Typical late 1950s-early 1060s houses. Nice place to live.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18187467)
First off...if he's a federally convicted coke dealer, that would probably mean he was moving KILOS of cocaine at one time.

So even if he was still in business...nobody in your neighborhood would be able to buy any from him. He wasn't a "dealer". He was THE MAN. And people don't buy coke from the MAN unless you are Keith Richards.
You buy coke from the little guys who get ounces and cut it up into eight balls and grams.

The great probability is that he is under a lot of scrutiny anyway if he served time for a federal offense. He's no longer under the radar and his connections more than likely wouldn't deal with him anymore even if he wanted to.

Cocaine shouldn't be illegal anyway. So I wouldn't worry about it. I'd be more worried about the police state we live in that tells us what we can and can't do...right down to snorting a line of cocaine.

I take it that you vote "No!" and the community shold be deprived of information concerning the criminal living in its midst?

L-Pink 06-01-2011 08:25 PM

Just get blind ass drunk and mind your own business.

Agent 488 06-01-2011 08:26 PM

brainwashed old man.

Robbie 06-01-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187471)
I take it that you vote "No!" and the community shold be deprived of information concerning the criminal living in its midst?

I don't consider him a "criminal" unless he stole something, killed somebody, raped somebody, etc.
Just like I don't consider you a criminal if you didn't wear your seatbelt or if you refuse to buy health insurance when Obama-Care kicks in or any of the million other laws that the govt. just pulls out of their asses.

He was a businessman taking full advantage of the govts failed "prohibition" on cocaine. Just like everybody did during alcohol prohibition.

If he were convicted of say...home invasions? Hell yeah you need to know that!
A convicted murderer? Uh...yeah.
Rapist? Of course.
Armed robbery? You bet.

Selling cocaine to grown people who wanted to buy it and party on it? I don't think so.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18187462)
Sounds like you're just pissed he wouldn't give you credit.

Your non-responsive and irrelevant comment has been consigned to the Round File and will be considered only if and when Hell indeed freezes over.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18187479)
I don't consider him a "criminal" unless he stole something, killed somebody, raped somebody, etc.
Just like I don't consider you a criminal if you didn't wear your seatbelt or if you refuse to buy health insurance when Obama-Care kicks in or any of the million other laws that the govt. just pulls out of their asses.

He was a businessman taking full advantage of the govts failed "prohibition" on cocaine. Just like everybody did during alcohol prohibition.

If he were convicted of say...home invasions? Hell yeah you need to know that!
A convicted murderer? Uh...yeah.
Rapist? Of course.
Armed robbery? You bet.

Selling cocaine to grown people who wanted to buy it and party on it? I don't think so.

How do you know that the Pusher Man in question only sold to "grown people"?

Agent 488 06-01-2011 08:34 PM

hard enough to get coke as it is sometimes let alone if you're 12 years old.

WarChild 06-01-2011 08:35 PM

Better keep your nose out of it old man before somebody does it for you.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18187474)
Just get blind ass drunk and mind your own business.

So you believe that the presence of a convicted Pusher Man in a community in which many children live is a matter of no concern to that community?

solopimps 06-01-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187492)
How do you know that the Pusher Man in question only sold to "grown people"?

Again if kids are buying cocaine or anything else, themselves and the parents are to blame. Not the dealer.

96ukssob 06-01-2011 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18187467)
First off...if he's a federally convicted coke dealer, that would probably mean he was moving KILOS of cocaine at one time.

So even if he was still in business...nobody in your neighborhood would be able to buy any from him. He wasn't a "dealer". He was THE MAN. And people don't buy coke from the MAN unless you are Keith Richards.
You buy coke from the little guys who get ounces and cut it up into eight balls and grams.

The great probability is that he is under a lot of scrutiny anyway if he served time for a federal offense. He's no longer under the radar and his connections more than likely wouldn't deal with him anymore even if he wanted to.

Cocaine shouldn't be illegal anyway. So I wouldn't worry about it. I'd be more worried about the police state we live in that tells us what we can and can't do...right down to snorting a line of cocaine.

:2 cents:

you have nothing to worry about other than old dealers and rivals finding and killing him, while in the process slaughtering your whole neighborhood

L-Pink 06-01-2011 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18187467)
First off...if he's a federally convicted coke dealer, that would probably mean he was moving KILOS of cocaine at one time.

So even if he was still in business...nobody in your neighborhood would be able to buy any from him. He wasn't a "dealer". He was THE MAN. And people don't buy coke from the MAN unless you are Keith Richards.
You buy coke from the little guys who get ounces and cut it up into eight balls and grams.

The great probability is that he is under a lot of scrutiny anyway if he served time for a federal offense. He's no longer under the radar and his connections more than likely wouldn't deal with him anymore even if he wanted to.

Cocaine shouldn't be illegal anyway. So I wouldn't worry about it. I'd be more worried about the police state we live in that tells us what we can and can't do...right down to snorting a line of cocaine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187492)
How do you know that the Pusher Man in question only sold to "grown people"?

Re-read Robbie's post about Federal convictions.

.

marlboroack 06-01-2011 08:42 PM

If he is only a pot dealer. All good. But that other shit? Let's take him down to China town.

NALEM 06-01-2011 08:43 PM

Two different people in two different communities I know had similar situations, and went to the local police departments. Police helped them set up a "Neighborhood Watch", and advised them on what they can and cannot do.

Long story made short, the neighbors had enough on this person and his activities in the one community that the police, court and prison welcomed him back into the system for a long time. In the other one case, the person being watched got tired of the BS and moved away.

woj 06-01-2011 08:44 PM

Sounds like good news to me, instead of driving 20 mins to get some drugs, you will now have a hookup down the street... = WIN :thumbsup


jk, but seriously, mind your own business... :2 cents:

LexiLexxx 06-01-2011 08:46 PM

A friend of mine, use to date a serious drug dealer.....and I do mean serious, tons of guns and people around to protect him. He would NEVER deal anything close to where he lives. The small guys tend to deal from home. I wouldn't think he would be doing it close to his house, or the fact that he would want to go back to prison. I would be more afraid that he has people out to kill him.

Agent 488 06-01-2011 08:48 PM

go snoop around his house and see what he's up to. report back.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solopimps (Post 18187499)
Again if kids are buying cocaine or anything else, themselves and the parents are to blame. Not the dealer.

So if I get this right, a Pusher Man who may have sold to children has no responsibility for the damage that he/she has done to those children because it is all the fault of the parents?

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 18187516)
Two different people in two different communities I know had similar situations, and went to the local police departments. Police helped them set up a "Neighborhood Watch", and advised them on what they can and cannot do.

Long story made short, the neighbors had enough on this person and his activities in the one community that the police, court and prison welcomed him back into the system for a long time. In the other one case, the person being watched got tired of the BS and moved away.

If I get the gist of your comments, you would advocate for informing the community?

L-Pink 06-01-2011 08:50 PM

Probably just a bullshit story anyway.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18187520)
Sounds like good news to me, instead of driving 20 mins to get some drugs, you will now have a hookup down the street... = WIN :thumbsup


jk, but seriously, mind your own business... :2 cents:

I take it that you would not mind the presence of a Pusher Man in your community?

Do you think that the parents of children in your community would feel the same way?

Phoenix 06-01-2011 08:52 PM

mind your own business...he is probably a normal person who just wants to live his life

imagine if your community found out you were a smut peddler?

in the average joes eyes....we are at the same level as drug dealer
so remember that when you are checking the view from your high horse

SallyRand 06-01-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 18187514)
If he is only a pot dealer. All good. But that other shit? Let's take him down to China town.

The conviction with which we are concerned was for the sales of cocaine as was clearly stated in the OP.

Robbie 06-01-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187497)
So you believe that the presence of a convicted Pusher Man in a community in which many children live is a matter of no concern to that community?

After traveling many years (1978 to 1995) in my bands...I have done cocaine with a district attorney...bought some really good cocaine from a cop...and snorted it with various doctors, lawyers, schoolteachers, etc.

I have some bad news for you: Even though cocaine is now "politically incorrect" to admit to doing it...the United States of America is the biggest consumer in the world. And the numbers are still growing while the amount of people claiming not to do it grows as well (kind of like people who watch porn)
Your "community" probably already has many people in it who buy grams and eight balls to party on the weekend. And you may have one or two guys who live there and sell it as well.

I'd be far more worried about robbers, murderers, etc. than I would about recreational drugs. Hell, I'm more worried knowing that there are probably people in my neighborhood driving their cars down my street all fucked up on prescription drugs (which kill more people every year than all "illegal" drugs combined)

Perhaps you should be more concerned if you have a pharmacist or a doctor in your neighborhood. They are the real drug pushers.

L-Pink 06-01-2011 09:04 PM

Let's recap, a federally convicted cocaine dealer that just got out of federal prison is "supposedly" moving to your neighborhood. You being the paranoid, clueless, meddling prick you are want to fuck up the new life he is trying to start.

I hope he finds out it was you that started unnecessary shit because you just can't mind your own business. Don't worry you will never see it coming.

SallyRand 06-01-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18187539)
mind your own business...he is probably a normal person who just wants to live his life

imagine if your community found out you were a smut peddler?

in the average joes eyes....we are at the same level as drug dealer
so remember that when you are checking the view from your high horse

Sorry, I make no bones about my acitivyt as a so-called "smut peddler:.

I am often asked for tips as to the "best" porn sites.

Unlike perhaps you and others, I have no shame for what I do.

My bank even knows what I do and the grils at the counter are often amused by the names on the checks.

"Smut" is merely the representation of the kinds of things most people wish they could do.

Sexuality, sensuality and sexual gratification should bear no shame unless such things involve children.

Every man has a dick; every woman a pussy.

Everyone has an asshole and a mouth.

We have only one life and it should be lived to the fullest.

You may now go back under your rock, you porr reperessed son-of-a-bitch!

SallyRand 06-01-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18187559)
Let's recap, a federally convicted cocaine dealer that just got out of federal prison is "supposedly" moving to your neighborhood. You being the paranoid, clueless, meddling prick you are want to fuck up the new life he is trying to start.

I hope he finds out it was you that started unnecessary shit because you just can't mind your own business. Don't worry you will never see it coming.

Is your post perhaps some kind of a threat made on behalf of another?

Phoenix 06-01-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187560)
Sorry, I make no bones about my acitivyt as a so-called "smut peddler:.

I am often asked for tips as to the "best" porn sites.

Unlike perhaps you and others, I have no shame for what I do.

My bank even knows what I do and the grils at the counter are often amused by the names on the checks.

"Smut" is merely the representation of the kinds of things most people wish they could do.

Sexuality, sensuality and sexual gratification should bear no shame unless such things involve children.

Every man has a dick; every woman a pussy.

Everyone has an asshole and a mouth.

We have only one life and it should be lived to the fullest.

You may now go back under your rock, you porr reperessed son-of-a-bitch!

ugh..i cant believe i fell into this troll trap..lol

SallyRand 06-01-2011 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18187555)
After traveling many years (1978 to 1995) in my bands...I have done cocaine with a district attorney...bought some really good cocaine from a cop...and snorted it with various doctors, lawyers, schoolteachers, etc.

I have some bad news for you: Even though cocaine is now "politically incorrect" to admit to doing it...the United States of America is the biggest consumer in the world. And the numbers are still growing while the amount of people claiming not to do it grows as well (kind of like people who watch porn)
Your "community" probably already has many people in it who buy grams and eight balls to party on the weekend. And you may have one or two guys who live there and sell it as well.

I'd be far more worried about robbers, murderers, etc. than I would about recreational drugs. Hell, I'm more worried knowing that there are probably people in my neighborhood driving their cars down my street all fucked up on prescription drugs (which kill more people every year than all "illegal" drugs combined)

Perhaps you should be more concerned if you have a pharmacist or a doctor in your neighborhood. They are the real drug pushers.

Thank you for your reply.

I take it that you think the community has no right to know?

Robbie 06-01-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187560)
Sorry, I make no bones about my acitivyt as a so-called "smut peddler:.

I am often asked for tips as to the "best" porn sites.

Unlike perhaps you and others, I have no shame for what I do.

My bank even knows what I do and the grils at the counter are often amused by the names on the checks.

Well that settles it. I figured you for a surfer who isn't in our business. The fact that you claim to openly tell everyone in your neighborhood and even your bank that you are in porn says you are NOT in porn.

Those of us who are...have already experienced what happens when you naively do something stupid like that.

TampaToker 06-01-2011 09:08 PM

The guy did his time for his crime leave him alone......:2 cents:

L-Pink 06-01-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187561)
Is your post perhaps some kind of a threat made on behalf of another?

No, just wishful thinking.

I also know you are just making the entire story up for attention. Pathetic troll.

Phoenix 06-01-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18187570)
Well that settles it. I figured you for a surfer who isn't in our business. The fact that you claim to openly tell everyone in your neighborhood and even your bank that you are in porn says you are NOT in porn.

Those of us who are...have already experienced what happens when you naively do something stupid like that.

exactly

friggin surfer paradise over here

sallyrand and camperjohn should go open an ice cream stand together

Robbie 06-01-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18187573)
sallyrand and camperjohn should go open an ice cream stand together

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
But then some federally convicted cocaine dealer would just horn in on their business. :(

Agent 488 06-01-2011 09:16 PM

there are no porn names on porn checks.

fail.

SmokeyTheBear 06-01-2011 09:21 PM

there are convicted sex offenders within blocks of you and you are worried about an ex coke dealer ? get your priorities straight

SallyRand 06-01-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18187572)
No, just wishful thinking.

I also know you are just making the entire story up for attention. Pathetic troll.

"Wishful" in what way?

L-Pink 06-01-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18187592)
"Wishful" in what way?

Trolling to the end, asshole.


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