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Jack Sparrow 05-14-2011 12:57 PM

Do you believe stephen hawking ?
 
Just watched 2 of his shows.
The 1 about timetravelling and the 1 about alien life.

Brilliant.

fitzmulti 05-14-2011 01:31 PM

He is interesting, to be sure/

At least the one show was not about AlienQ
;-)

B.Barnato 05-14-2011 01:37 PM

Stephen Hawking does not believe in creation, so no I can't take anything he says seriously

seeandsee 05-14-2011 02:09 PM

he changed his theory make him popular about black holes time traveling so i dont know what he talks now...

CurrentlySober 05-14-2011 02:15 PM

I dont believe in him. I think he is a cleverly designed automatron, disguised as a human. He voice gives it away...

NaughtyRob 05-14-2011 02:27 PM

Creation is a joke. We were cavemen and aliens came down and tinkered with us. Aliens are the missing link.

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138350)
Stephen Hawking does not believe in creation, so no I can't take anything he says seriously


Failed 05-14-2011 02:29 PM

The shows are awesome, very interesting. We may be able to grasp the concept of what the man is talking about. But, the fully thought out ideas in his head are probably beyond us all.

B.Barnato 05-14-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18138537)
Creation is a joke. We were cavemen and aliens came down and tinkered with us. Aliens are the missing link.

So how do you explain our imperfection and the evil in the world without the Adam and Eve / Apple scenario?

2MuchMark 05-14-2011 02:36 PM

Hawking Rawks. He's our generation's Einstein, and he contributes so much to the world of science despite an incredibly awful disease.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 18138484)
he changed his theory make him popular about black holes time traveling so i dont know what he talks now...

No this is not correct. His change of mind has nothing to do with time travel. Hawking had believed that anything swallowed by a black hole was forever hidden from the outside universe. John Preskill, a theoretical physicist at the California Institute of Technology, bet that the information carried by an object was not destroyed when it entered a black hole and could actually be recovered. 30 years after the initial bet, Preskill proved him wrong, and won the bet.

Deej 05-14-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 18138484)
he changed his theory make him popular about black holes time traveling so i dont know what he talks now...


Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18138552)
No this is not correct. His change of mind has nothing to do with time travel. Hawking had believed that anything swallowed by a black hole was forever hidden from the outside universe. John Preskill, a theoretical physicist at the California Institute of Technology, bet that the information carried by an object was not destroyed when it entered a black hole and could actually be recovered. 30 years after the initial bet, Preskill proved him wrong, and won the bet.

Yea in YOUR FACE MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!

:mad: :pimp

papill0n 05-14-2011 02:48 PM

yeah he's brilliant


you are not

Grapesoda 05-14-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18138537)
Creation is a joke. We were cavemen and aliens came down and tinkered with us. Aliens are the missing link.

well I never.... maybe you have been tinkered with but not ME!!! :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 05-14-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18138552)
Hawking Rawks. He's our generation's Einstein, and he contributes so much to the world of science despite an incredibly awful disease.



No this is not correct. His change of mind has nothing to do with time travel. Hawking had believed that anything swallowed by a black hole was forever hidden from the outside universe. John Preskill, a theoretical physicist at the California Institute of Technology, bet that the information carried by an object was not destroyed when it entered a black hole and could actually be recovered. 30 years after the initial bet, Preskill proved him wrong, and won the bet.

it was this guy:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Hole-War.../dp/0316016403

and the argument was about conservation of matter. now the theory is that reality is a 2 dimensional hologram on the edge of a black hole, with black holes at the center of every Galaxy, and there are 11 dimensions. we experience only 5... think suskind was one of the thinkers behine string theroy as well, but now hawkings is putting out M theroy

mavruda 05-14-2011 03:50 PM

As far as I know he's composing music too - classic sonettes or something like that.
He also has some interests in other areas like: architecture and economics....

Coup 05-14-2011 03:52 PM

Stephen Hawking is over-rated

clitcartel 05-14-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138350)
Stephen Hawking does not believe in creation, so no I can't take anything he says seriously

correction. steve hawkings DOES beleive in creation. Just not the one found in a book written by a bunch of wack-jobs... you know... the book where the guy was suppose to have lived inside a whale for a few days... yea that book where the guy killed 140K people with a donkey jaw-bone.... that same book that has caused more death than oh I dont know.... every disease ever known to mankind....

Yes B hawkings believes in creation... just not the way you might. he takes a little more... well, provable approach?

B.Barnato 05-14-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clitcartel (Post 18138804)
correction. steve hawkings DOES beleive in creation. Just not the one found in a book written by a bunch of wack-jobs... you know... the book where the guy was suppose to have lived inside a whale for a few days... yea that book where the guy killed 140K people with a donkey jaw-bone.... that same book that has caused more death than oh I dont know.... every disease ever known to mankind....

Yes B hawkings believes in creation... just not the way you might. he takes a little more... well, provable approach?

well then if man was NOT created from dirt, how come there is still dirt?

Grapesoda 05-14-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138806)
well then if man was NOT created from dirt, how come there is still dirt?

actually some real logic flaws in that statement

adultchatpay 05-14-2011 04:30 PM

sometimes he makes sense, most of the time he don't

Fletch XXX 05-14-2011 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138550)
So how do you explain our imperfection and the evil in the world without the Adam and Eve / Apple scenario?

LOLZ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

proof right there man is still a caveman! :upsidedow

Jack Sparrow 05-14-2011 04:39 PM

And a retarded one too.

B.Barnato 05-14-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18138829)
LOLZ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

proof right there man is still a caveman! :upsidedow

I feel sorry for you if trust fake science more than the truth of the bible.

Why do we have monkeys still in the forest if we are monkeys?

How come women have ribs if the rib that was taken from Adam to make Eve is not the truth?

L-Pink 05-14-2011 04:57 PM

He also sings with Pink Floyd. True.

Yngwie 05-14-2011 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138856)
I feel sorry for you if trust fake science more than the truth of the bible.

Why do we have monkeys still in the forest if we are monkeys?

How come women have ribs if the rib that was taken from Adam to make Eve is not the truth?

Please tell me that you're joking around. You can't possibly believe the whole Adam and Eve shit, can you? I hope to hell that you're just fucking around. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

justinsain 05-14-2011 05:27 PM

Have you ever pondered why one of the world's greatest minds rests in a near useless body while some of the world's greatest athletes can barely carry a thought.

B.Barnato 05-14-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 18138910)
Please tell me that you're joking around. You can't possibly believe the whole Adam and Eve shit, can you? I hope to hell that you're just fucking around. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:upsidedow no worries, just getting my daily troll fix

Yngwie 05-14-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138922)
:upsidedow no worries, just getting my daily troll fix

ok, I was hoping that was the case. haha

Jack Sparrow 05-14-2011 06:25 PM

Is donny long still up? Hi donny, hows the gun practicing going.

SomeCreep 05-14-2011 06:29 PM

I believe he has a much better grasp on physics than I.

Grapesoda 05-14-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18138971)
I believe he has a much better grasp on physics than I.

there are probably only 20 people on earth that understand modern physics, if that many

NaughtyRob 05-14-2011 06:52 PM

The aliens created religion to keep us in line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18138550)
So how do you explain our imperfection and the evil in the world without the Adam and Eve / Apple scenario?


PornGreen 05-14-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18138552)
No this is not correct. His change of mind has nothing to do with time travel. Hawking had believed that anything swallowed by a black hole was forever hidden from the outside universe. John Preskill, a theoretical physicist at the California Institute of Technology, bet that the information carried by an object was not destroyed when it entered a black hole and could actually be recovered. 30 years after the initial bet, Preskill proved him wrong, and won the bet.

What do you think of each of their explanations of what happens to the information? It seems to me Hawking couldn't handle that Preskill was right in the bet, so he came up with his alternate and very far-fetched theory of what happens to the information.

Si 05-14-2011 07:09 PM

I just posted this thread into the universe

barcodes 05-14-2011 07:09 PM

Well there's some new physics theories out that will blow your minds.

barcodes 05-14-2011 07:10 PM


barcodes 05-14-2011 07:10 PM


Jack Sparrow 05-14-2011 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGreen (Post 18139000)
What do you think of each of their explanations of what happens to the information? It seems to me Hawking couldn't handle that Preskill was right in the bet, so he came up with his alternate and very far-fetched theory of what happens to the information.

Not at all farfetched. He adjusted it, nothing wrong with that as more knowledge comes out by experiments and newer technologies to investigate.

Grapesoda 05-14-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 18139024)
Not at all farfetched. He adjusted it, nothing wrong with that as more knowledge comes out by experiments and newer technologies to investigate.

Leonard Susskind came up with the hologram theory, not Hawking's and Hawking's theory, 'M theory' isn't really that far fetched. simply put the theory is that we see what our experience allow us to see and understand, i.e. modal theory.

there are many things happening around us however we can only experience realty through a frame work of 'our' understanding... as our understanding changes the very nature of the universe and reality change as well.

a simple way to relate to modal theory is understanding light, or photons. if an experiment test to see if a photon is a particle, photons are particles. an experiment to test if photons are a wave... photons are a wave.

2MuchMark 05-14-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGreen (Post 18139000)
What do you think of each of their explanations of what happens to the information? It seems to me Hawking couldn't handle that Preskill was right in the bet, so he came up with his alternate and very far-fetched theory of what happens to the information.

I don't know what to think of it, the concept is beyond me. My interest in science includes astrophysics, quantum mechanics etc but I am having trouble wrapping my head around their disagreement.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18139129)
I don't know what to think of it, the concept is beyond me. My interest in science includes astrophysics, quantum mechanics etc but I am having trouble wrapping my head around their disagreement.


The disagreement is based on Hawkings Belief that once something passes an Event Horizon of a Blackhole it can not be recovered.

The author of the book says it's not true because physics does not account for anything lost. The author of the book also say's that once things go into the Event Horizon it has reached zero time but is not lost and there can be recovered.


Somethings:
Light has mass which is why it bends near Black Holes. It is responsive to gravity.

I am inclined to believe that once mass passes the Event Horizon of a Black hole mass simply behaves differently but still constrained to the rules of Time. Author of the book believes that mass reaches zero time.

Which does not make sense unless of course Black Holes are what makes the universe stable from the outset and a large part of what draws the universe back into a singular point in time. If thats the case then Hawking Theory of a Big Bang is true.

If all the mass in our dimension all comes together eventually at a single point and time which is zero then thats where string theory comes from. Where essentially String Theory says our Dimension/Universe is a pocket of something larger where other dimensions like ours break into existence and out of existence. Which means our existence is repetitive and not unique. Thats right we all been here before.

In short string theory also says that basically our current place in time within our Universe is the perfect time for us to exist because at most all other points in time of this dimension it inhospitable since most other points in time of our dimension are subject to different laws of atomic behavior.

clitcartel 05-14-2011 10:09 PM

I disagree
 
To discover the truth one must venture inside and you will then see that black holes aren't really black... they're all pink on the inside!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O31dPNhASU...a-dentata2.jpg

barcodes 05-14-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clitcartel (Post 18139159)
To discover the truth one must venture inside and you will then see that black holes aren't really black... they're all pink on the inside!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-O31dPNhASU...a-dentata2.jpg


ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2011 10:24 PM

And this is why GFY is such a special place.

Jayvis 05-14-2011 10:28 PM

Didn't read the rest of the replies, but link(s) to those vids plz?

barcodes 05-14-2011 10:31 PM


barcodes 05-14-2011 10:33 PM

In all seriousness. Someone, might have been jacksparrow linked to a 2 hr youtube video about cern and fermilab. It went into black holes and the newer theory about holographic principle/string theory (i forgot what exactly it was called). It was a very good vid.

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AdPatron 05-14-2011 11:20 PM

I'd do him in the butt.

PornGreen 05-17-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18139061)
Leonard Susskind came up with the hologram theory, not Hawking's and Hawking's theory, 'M theory' isn't really that far fetched. simply put the theory is that we see what our experience allow us to see and understand, i.e. modal theory.

there are many things happening around us however we can only experience realty through a frame work of 'our' understanding... as our understanding changes the very nature of the universe and reality change as well.

a simple way to relate to modal theory is understanding light, or photons. if an experiment test to see if a photon is a particle, photons are particles. an experiment to test if photons are a wave... photons are a wave.

Hawking's theoretical solution to the information paradox is not 'M theory' and to the best of my very limited understanding on the topic, most physicists currently consider Hawking's information paradox solution theory to be a real stretch.

PR_Glen 05-17-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18138911)
Have you ever pondered why one of the world's greatest minds rests in a near useless body while some of the world's greatest athletes can barely carry a thought.

with that logic all athletes are morons and all people in wheel chairs are geniuses... which would be false...

You dedicate 10 000+ hours to anything and you will be proficient in it.


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