Joomla is such a piece of shit
 

thats all i wanted to say.

I love wordpress thats all.

LOL, I wouldn't got that far, but it is a pain. You have to have Joomla on a dedicated server with its own MYSQL database or its so slow.

I only use it if a client insists on using it and I can't convince them otherwise.

Joomla rocks!!!!

its just so user unfriendly, and more of a headache.

from now on, im not taking on jobs converting joomla themes to wordpress, its more of a pain than its worth.

Joomla sucks... (it's complicated, heavy and slow)
WordPress ROCKS!!!

WP over any other similar script

WordPress rules. I don't know such a kind of website which can't be done with WP.

Yep, that's why I gave up on it. I was trying it out on one of my sites just to see how it works and got too frustrated with it.

It sure is!

I fired out a few pieces of joomla this morning.

It ain't that bad. :2 cents:

Joomla is dead,drupal won on cms field anyway.

I love Joomla!, Drupal, and Wordpress. They are all powerful and unique in their own way. If you can get yourself use to Joomla! it's a walk in the park to do anything you want.

WP is the way to go...

Knowing how to write your own website code from scratch rules.

I used to dick around with Joomla when i 1st got my godaddy hosting, it really is shit.

I like both; I don't know drupal yet

I concur

joomla sucks.,
drupal complicated but still customisable.
wp, fucking awesome.,

well, not really, we're overreacting here :winkwink: But I agree that compared to WP, Joomla is really crappy and it's condemned to die pretty soon

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I host / create many joomla sites , on the same dedicated server ....
All depends what you are doing...

Drupal or WP

agreed. it sucks.

Notepad FTW.

Wordpress the way to go for me!

He said that you needed a dedicated server.

:helpme

emmmmmm......

http://w3techs.com/technologies/over...management/all
http://www.backendbattles.com/
http://kovshenin.com/archives/trends...pal-vs-joomla/
http://trends.builtwith.com/cms

WP is the winning CMS BY FAR. I mean, there's not even a comparison, it's simply ridiculous. Then comes Joomla. And then Drupal

wordpress rocks!

Fuck 'em all.

FTW.

He implied a DEDICATED for EACH website ... that is NOT true ....
I like joomla because :
- it is feature rich
- it has a more' pro ' look '
- there are less updates ( WP is weekly right ? )
- once you know that it sorta works backways ( create content before menus ... ) , it is vey nice.

WP is also nice , very nice themes , but I find it less professional ...

As for converting themes, I did convert a wordpress theme to joomla in less then 10 minutes with ARTISTEER ...

I wouldn't say Joomla is crap.. It just has a steeper learning curve. It has a shit load of "professional" add ons that allow you to do some pretty nice sites with it.

Wordpress is nice for what it is, but I really don't think you can do some of the more complex stuff with it, like you can with Joomla.

http://modx.com/ was the one I was always hoping would gain a bigger following, but it was always more of a frame work.

I'm very curious at what do you think Joomla can do that WP can't. I've built all kind of ultra complex CMS with features not even the most advanced adult and mainstream CMS have and so far couldn't find anything that can't be done with WP. Absolutely anything. So really, not arguing with you, but I'm really curious about that

Wordpress wins hands down every damn day

And a complete waste of time. Proprietary code is often unsecure and slow.

Just look at the long list of Fortune 500 companies using Drupal and Wordpress. People can make Drupal do pretty much whatever they please. Wordpress too, to a lesser extent.

Joomla sucks for a variety of reasons. Haven't used it since right after it forked off of Mambo.

Joomla before Drupal? Are you off of your rocker?

Just compare the list of Fortune 500 companies running websites with Joomla....what's that? Zero?

Drupal has dozens.

The reason you see the huge traffic difference in the two sites's because Joomla and Wordpress are the go to easy user friendly CMS's. Drupal has a steep learning curve. It is much much more powerful. Just ask the White House.

But then again what do the White House and Fortune 500 companies know.....I mean this is GFY!!

Just to name a few of the most impressive organizations and companies using Drupal
Amnesty International
FedEx
Forbes
Nike
Sanyo
Disney
Ubuntu
Green Peace
Adobe
Sun Microsystems
United Nations
White House
Nokia
Symantec
Yahoo Research
New York Observer
Popular Science
Economist
AOL Corporate
Harvard
MIT
MTV UK
Sony Music
Warner Brothers Records
Fast Company
Metallica (the only artist worth mentioning out of dozens)

Drupal scales. Period. And you can make it do whatever you want it to do.

Where's that list for Joomla?

Used Joolma years ago, it is bloated, very unfriendly to use and ya does just suck. I only use textpattern and WP these days.

Dude wordpress got hacked to shit when it first came out. :1orglaugh

http://www.google.com/search?q=wordp...ient=firefox-a

I wouldn't have used Wordpress then. And I still wouldn't use it for a site that did anything beyond displaying content.

I'm still under the belief that Open Source is a million times more secure than closed source.

1) I posted about numbers of users in reply to KlenTelaris post, not about "quality" of users
2) Oh really? Between other users WP is used by the fucking NASA. You know, those guys so smart the could fake a moon landing. Take a look at other noobs using WP
3) I prefer Drupal over Joomla myself. That being said, it seems to be an objective fact that Joomla is more used than Drupal. Plus, your argument of "look how this ultra sophisticated script is used by companies with dozens of programmers" isn't exactly the best advice when talking about UX. And let's not even start about UI. Just sayin'
4) As we're at it, name 1 thing that Drupal, Joomla OR ANY OTHER FREE CMS can do that WP can't. I always do that question and only hear crickets. Hell, let's make it ANY OTHER PAID CMS. For every single REAL thing you find I promise I'll name 3 your CMS of choice can't do :winkwink: Again, I never found anything, but be my guest, maybe you can find something. And the beauty of WP is the day you find that something (if ever!!!!), you'll find it done in 1 or 2 weeks at most. For starters, that will never happen with any other CMS, free or paid

"Joomla is such a piece of shit

thats all i wanted to say."

Yes.

Lol, it sounds like someone got frustrated with too many options and having to learn.

The security of closed/open source is entirely dependent on the programmers.

It's all about the programmer, not "open" or "closed" source.

You feel that way because of all the half baked PHP code pumped out by
rookies a few years ago.

I love Wordpress and would always try and choose it over any other CMS, but it cannot, for example, perform the extremely simple task (in standalone code) of having sortable rated comments.

There may also be other stuff it can't do - ie, specialized forum, chat, gallery, video software might be better that WP kluges - so I don't think it's the be all and end all, but I agree it can be customized to do pretty much anything, and is really easy to use.

Depends what you want. All the CMSs mentioned have at least some features you might not necessarily need. If you want an application that performs a relatively simple task then it makes far more sense to code it yourself, especially if that task can't be done in a CMS.

Assuming it's competently written it's likely to be faster because it's not loading a bunch of crap you don't need.

As for security, it works both ways. I'm all for open source, but it allows anyone, good or bad, to analyse the code and spot weaknesses. Write your own code and nobody can comb through it or run it on their server at home trying to find ways to hack it.

That would be open source code, surely? If you mean encoded PHP, you have to be out of your mind to use encoded scripts from someone else. Even open source is risky, depending on where you get it from.

well, as standalone code, sure it can't. But the thing is that with some customization or by using plugins (depending on what you need more or less) it can do it all. Of the ones you mention:
- sortable rated comments --> yes, you can build your own from scratch, use a plugin or do a small mod to any Comment rating plugin (basically take the DB and order it)
- specialized forum --> I'm not sure what do you mean here, but WP has pretty good forum plugins OR you can make WP itself work as a forum. OR you can bridge it with most forum software
chat --> many plugins for chat, you can also build an AJAX chat relatively easy
gallery --> please tell me you're kidding :Oh crap Not only WP has a built in gallery, but the gallery plugins for WP are the top of the crop
video --> we've developed a video solution for WP that is 10 times faster than any free or commercial script, bundled or standalone. More complete, handles ANY (and I mean ANY) kind of video (avi, wmv, mpg, mp4, flv and even smaller video versions for mobile), creates galleries on the fly, rotating thumbs, assigns screencaps to posts, watermarks and so on. I don't know of any other CMS that can do this other than WP. But even without our script, there are hundreds of video plugins for WP, ranging from very simple to pretty complex

As an example of what I mean, our multimedia manager script could work with Drupal and Joomla with some small mods, but... why bother? For the 3 persons that may use Drupal or Joomla? Seriously, it's just common sense. The day I see someone asking for Drupal or Joomla, that's the day I'll care about it, after all it's our business. In the meanwhile, it's just a waste of time

The future is buxom.

Has anyone ever used DotNetNuke?

A couple of years back, I had a Joomla skilled guy set up a site for me that turned out to be fairly popular. From a user-friendly perspective, it was easy and quick managing the site and I certainly wouldn`t say it was shit.

I like WordPress too but lots of people state that the coding in WP is shit.

Horses for courses I guess.