Joan Irvine to IFFOR - a second opinion, What is your take on it ??
 

To date, the opinions have been largely negative, to say the least.:winkwink:
Here is another one, to make people look at it from a different perspective.
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JFK and Baddog working together, I like that! :thumbsup


JFK, if you get a dog, let me suggest one like this, super cute.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4vn24YA-Rc...r+pei+baby.jpg

I did not read the entire thing but I was getting the impression that having irvine on the board is a good thing so she can look out for us and help stop them from forcing us on issues?

Hrm.. seems to me that most people tend to lean the way of the paycheck.

Got one:winkwink:

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Walk softly and carry a big stick :)

And JFK...likely has a BIG STICK :winkwink:

-L

Yeah Baby :Graucho

the article makes alot of assumptions..

"most of those complaining had done nothing about defeating the implementation of the .xxx sTLD"

"Even more clamor was raised by those that are never going to be affected by .xxx."


if you support joan , perhaps you should list some of her accomplishments at asacp that she will bring to iffor..

like something asacp did besides just forward emails to the fbi.. seems she paid herself very well , spent alot of money , but we haven't really seen anything done.. throw us a bone here.

Only carry a big stick if you are in the business of selling big sticks.


...as for the thread topic, IFFOR is a token gesture by ICM to legitimize the money grab. They'll have little or no real power to do anything that's not in the interests of ICM.

Reads to me like someone's looking for a job with ICM or IFFOR, now that they're hiring.

from article- "People thought it was inconceivable that members of two different adult webmaster forums could have different opinions. "

not "different" opinions, but completely opposite opinions. you can't honestly tell us .xxx was or is supported by the majority of the adult industry.

yeah, sorry about that off topic diversion :2 cents:

No way. I enjoy my freedom too much.

No muzzle for this dog ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm still waiting for a list of just 10 sites ASACP has assisted in closing after all of these years. Hell, show me 1 site. Why can't anyone produce this list? They are also not able to tell us why we just can't submit child porn sites directly to the FBI and why ASACP needs to act as a middle man (pardon the pun). Their blocking is completely useless.

Joan sold out and serves a useless position now, as she served in a useless position before. Children are not any better off because of ASACP nor will they be because of IFFOR or .XXX. This whole thing is just one enormous scam and some of you, who are very smart people, are falling for it.

Who is against children? No one. And that is why they can get away with all of this. You can wrap almost anything around "to protect kids" and get away with it because no one wants to be the asshole who calls out someone claiming to be doing good for the kids.

Just the opposite happens, everyone wants to get behind the movement and donate to it, without ever seeing a single shred of proof that any good has been done at all. Then they can look like they care about kids too, all while shoving 12 black herpes infected giant cocks up an 18 year old girls ass, while dressed up like a 13 year old, who just got off the bus in porn valley and is only there in the first place because she was abused as a kid, is strung out on drugs, or is just a general cluster fuck anyway, which usually goes back to some sort of abuse. Hardly an industry who cares about people, but hey, toss that ASACP banner up and show off to the world that you're doing your part.

It's a perfect scam. A lot of NGOs run similar BS all around the world and the naive fall for it and pour money into the cause, because everyone wants to help the kids. Everyone.

Yet, my 14 year old nephew and all his buddies (some younger than him) watch free hardcore porn at PornHub.com, who proudly displays a ASACP member banner at the bottom of their site.

Wake up people.

That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

Says what, Richard? Go ahead, make an intelligent comment with facts, not just what you heard somewhere.

if you are a member there, they are running another poll on the subject:2 cents:

Cliff notes verion?

Just take your time, read a pharagraph a day, you'll get there :thumbsup

.xxx is here.
IFFOR sets policy for .xxx
We need someone adult friendly on the policy council . . . the higher up the better.
Joan Irvine is adult friendly.
Anyone else that wants to volunteer should do so.
Do not buy .xxx, you do not need to, there are protections in place for you.
Stuart Lawley is a liar.
Until shown otherwise, I will believe that Joan Irvine is on our side.

Readers Digest would be proud of you:thumbsup

Truth. :2 cents:

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check , although it is in iffor's best interest to have "adult friendly" employees or the industry will not use them..

just because someone is against cp doesn't make them for porn.
She has the ability to use gfy right ? let her tell us .

quote of the year..

we have been shown otherwise already , i think most people would respect her and her decision more if she gave her side of the story. obama posted his birth certificate with much less evidence of a conspiracy :)

Are you in favor of .XXX? This thread sure suggest that.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if Joan sticks to what she claims to believe in or will just be a pawn for .xxx. The main problem as I see it is that IFFOR is not independent of .XXX. IFFOR and Joan's salary relies on the success of .xxx. So one would assume they will do what they need to do to ensure that success, whatever it might take. IFFOR was created by Lawley and is funded by .xxx. How can anyone think that they will be objective?

If I remember reading correctly she will spend half her time in Wash DC, what do you think that is for? You all really think he spent all that money and time for it to be just another tld?

I quoted from you own page where Joan admitted that ASCAP will get get funds from XXX and your going to question me? You just said Joan told you this. Did she or did she not tell you that ASCAP is going to get funds from XXX?

Hey as long as Chris 2.0 is their sales guy we have nothing to worry about. That guy is a curse.

Only when Joan Irvine has lining her pockets with cash. She's been running ASCAP for how long, yet how many times is she being called on the carpet to show the industry a list of what she's done for us? How many people have been arrested because of ASCAP? How many children have been protected?

If Joan is adult friendly, why hasn't she responded to our industry on GFY?

If Joan is adult friendly, why isn't she having a seminar about XXX at the upcoming YNOT Summit?

I would kill to sit down with Joan on a forum and discuss all of these issues. I'd like to know who the board members are, who the treasurer is, and I want to know where the money is coming from and where it is going to.

What has Joan done for our industry?