Seriously Americans what is going on?
 

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I know the site says it is not endorsed by Trump but come on now...all that is going on right now, this is not politics but just a sad charade with new clowns popping up to have their turn.

Are you not tired of this? Serious question

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proof or ban.

links pulled fuck!

global warming my ass

http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php

I havent paid attention to Trump in months and these days the only thing I hear about him is the chatter going on GFY. I think he's a monkey and I wont vote for him.

If there isnt any serious opposition to run against Obama next year, I simply wont vote. I will no longer vote for the lesser of two evils simply because I feel its my civic duty to vote in a presidential election. If I dont have confidence in either candidate's ability to run our country, then neither candidate will get my vote period.

Yes B.Barnato, I am tired of this! People who argue with scientific FACT.
I don't know if you've heard but not only is global warming not happening, evolution isn't real either!

Man man global warming is no fact. You've just been fooled to believe otherwise.

Dude.. are you sure about the evolution thing.. I saw this movie on HBO that says you are 45% wrong on that.

this is not really about global warming

it is more about people who are by no means qualified to run for presidency ( be it due to lack of qualifications or their history) using popular opinions and points of controversy to get the masses riled up.

Controversies that neither they or the populace have any real insight into.

+1 :2 cents:

Funny, even some of the original "signers" of the IPCC report have stated that they do not think that global warming is a fact. Amazing that YOU are able to state it as such, against the word of those scientists....

Here are a couple:

Solar Physicist and Climatologist Douglas V. Hoyt, who coauthored the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change, and has worked at both the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), has developed a scorecard to evaluate how accurate climate models have been. Hoyt wrote, ?Starting in 1997, we created a scorecard to see how climate model predictions were matching observations. The picture is not pretty with most of the predictions being wrong in magnitude and often in sign.? (LINK) A March 1, 2007 blog post in the National Review explained how the scoring system works. ?[Hoyt] gives each prediction a ?yes-no-undetermined score.? So if the major models? prediction is confirmed, the score at the beginning would be 1-0-0. So how do the models score when compared with the evidence? The final score is 1-27-4. That?s one confirmed prediction, 27 disconfirmed, and 4 undetermined,? the blog noted. Hoyt has extensively researched the sun-climate connection and has published nearly 100 scientific papers in such areas as the greenhouse effect, aerosols, cloud cover, radiative transfer, and sunspot structure. (LINK) To see Hoyt?s climate model scorecard, go here: (LINK)

Solar physicists Galina Mashnich and Vladimir Bashkirtsev, of the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics of the Siberian Division of the Russian Academy of Sciences, believe the climate is driven by the sun and predict global cooling will soon occur. The two scientists are so convinced that global temperatures will cool within the next decade they have placed a $10,000 wager with a UK scientist to prove their certainty. The criteria for the $10,000 bet will be to ?compare global temperatures between 1998 and 2003 with those between 2012 and 2017. The loser will pay up in 2018,? according to an April 16, 2007 article in Live Science. (LINK) Bashkirtsev and Mashnich have questioned the view that the ?anthropogenic impact? is driving Earth?s climate. ?None of the investigations dealing with the anthropogenic impact on climate convincingly argues for such an impact,? the two scientists noted in 2003. Bashkirtsev and Mashnich believe the evidence of solar impacts on the climate ?leave little room for the anthropogenic impact on the Earth?s climate.? They believe that ?solar variations naturally explain global cooling observed in 1950-1970, which cannot be understood from the standpoint of the greenhouse effect, since CO2 was intensely released into the atmosphere in this period.? (LINK)

Internationally renowned scientist Dr. Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists and a retired Professor of Advanced Physics at the University of Bologna in Italy, who has published over 800 scientific papers, questioned man-made global warming fears. According to an April 27, 2007 article at Zenit.org, Zichichi ?pointed out that human activity has less than 10% impact on the environment.? The article noted that Zichichi ?showed that the mathematical models used by the [UN's] IPCC do not correspond to the criteria of the scientific method. He said the IPCC used ?the method of ?forcing? to arrive at their conclusions that human activity produces meteorological variations.?? Zichichi said that based upon actual scientific fact ?it is not possible to exclude the idea that climate changes can be due to natural causes,? and he added that it is plausible that ?man is not to blame.? According to the article, ?He also reminded those present that 500,000 years ago the Earth lost the North and South Poles four times. The poles disappeared and reformed four times, he said. Zichichi said that in the end he is not convinced that global warming is caused by the increase of emissions of ?greenhouse gases? produced through human activity.

Renowned Astronomer Sir Patrick Moore, a fellow of the UK?s Royal Astronomical Society, host of the BBC?s Sky at Night program since 1957 and author of over 60 books on astronomy called global warming concern ?rubbish? in an interview with The Sun in 2005. ?I think it?s a lot of rubbish! From 1645-1715 the sun was inactive and we had a ?Little Ice Age,?? Moore said. ?Then the sun went back to normal and the world warmed up,? he concluded. Moore most recently co-authored two books published in 2006: 50 Years in Space: What We Thought Then What We Know Now; and Bang! The Complete History of the Universe. (LINK)



You must the be most brilliant climatologist in the UNIVERSE!


I bow to your wisdom. Guide us, Oh Master!



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But seriously, there are VERY few cutting edge ideas in science that are called "FACT", by actual scientists. The very idea that institutes and journals REFUSE to allow dissent or debate should be a very chilling idea to you. It's very much against the principals of science and should, in and of itself, cause some doubt about motivations and the process that is going on here.





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REALLY??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Id love to believe in something where there is hard scientific fact proving otherwise... Btw, was the Easter Bunny good to you this year?

The only way to win is simple: Don't vote for anyone. :2 cents:

Not even if Mickey Mouse himself gets elected will he beat the fuckery of that joker who got the White House in 2008. Candidacy of someone like Trump is nothing after someone like Obama was able to run.

that sounds like a good idea :winkwink:

The Global Warming scam is to get the taxes that are required for a world government, it even says so in the Club Of Rome (UN Think Tank) documents which were created long before they were going on about Global Warming.

It's a World Coup; the UN is taking over!

Climate change is real. There's been climate change all over the world since the formation of this planet. That's a fact.

Does human activity influence our environment? yes of course, just like a cow eating grass alters a field, just like a beaver building a dam changes a river, just like a bird dropping bird shit with undigested seeds in on an island brings new life to that island and may wipe out other lifeforms.

Are humans responsible for the change in climate (something that has been going on for billions of years)? Of course not.

I'm getting tired of voting AGAINST someone rather than FOR someone.

Global warming is a scam. A scam to make you pay higher taxes.

:thumbsup:thumbsup Not voting is the only vote that counts.

If you vote and you complain about what whoever is in power is doing, they'll always say that you are just pissed because "your guy didn't win".

It's happening. Don't question science. My dread locks are the antenas to the universe and give me all answers. It's happening.

I truly enjoyed living abroad for 5 years. When you come back home to America after living in other cultures you immediately sense the way the media, commercials, and talk TV (even the comedy shows) are pitting one against the other while creating an amazing amount of anxiety, animosity and anger in our society. This is something most Americans don't pick up on because they don't experience anything else.

The thing that pisses me off is foreigners picking the most idiotic of our society and pegging it as the norm, or something most of us give a shit about.

Another thing that pisses me off is when you travel overseas and open your mouth to speak and when they hear the accent they think they automatically know everything about you, and how to target you, because you're American.

The thing foreigners don't get about Americans is that we are so tightly wound here that we will focus on the most stupid inane shit you can think of to take our mind off all the bullshit we are bombarded with constantly on a daily basis. It's that simple.

We don't give a shit. It's something to take our minds off what matters.

Who's the last one you can remember that was worth voting FOR?

God Dammit I wish Trump would shut his fucking mouth. This man is so fucking stupid he makes Sarah Palin look like a brainiac.

Sperbonzo:
I for one have done alot of reading and believe without a doubt that Global Warming is a fact, and that we humans are contributing to the green house gasses that are warming our planet.

But even for those like you who think it is due to other factors, it doesn't matter. Whatever the cause (people, animals, volcanoes, Solar, etc), the earth IS warming up and you only have to look at the pole's to see this. Regardless of the cause, we humans have a responsibility to future generations and to the earth itself to curb the use of anything that can damage the environment.

america is going to get a LOT worse, and a lot stupider, in the next few decades.

the best thing we can do is let the republicans win, and let them wreck the country as fast as possible. the dems and the republicans are both owned by the plutocrats, but the republicans are much more foolish, and we stand the best chance by letting them run things.

we can count on the republicans to mismanage things more idiotically, which will bring on the civil wars, that are the only thing that has a chance of unseating the plutocrats.

not that there really is a chance. americans fucked up, it's game over now. it's just concentrated stupid from now on.

Quoted for truth. I find it hard to stay in the US for long as I start to revert to my old ways and hate everyone.

Not as much as I am tired of your avatar and shitty posts.

and now for the real question: do you think the proposed solutions like a carbon credit trading system will do anything to stop this problem or are they just a scam to make a lot of money?

Now I like this!

I'm not American but I feel you mate. I have been wondering myself after learning that show like "Sliced" exists on American TV. Where this destruction hungry people are coming from? Where do shows like this lead the society? And it gets much worse with news, there is no telling between entertainment and news reporting nowadays, the situation in Russia for example (something that I know about) is that main TV channels are controlled by Kremlin, that sucks and doesn't produce adequate news reports. However in the west you can't tell the difference between news and entertainment. Which one is better? I say ban commercial advertising on news channels! This way they stop caring for ratings and start reporting adequate news.

Sorry Mark, but you are incorrect. 90% of the worlds ice is on the south pole. Of that 90%, 90% of that is composed of the East Antarctic Ice shield. (so about 81% of the worlds ice overall) That ice shield has been been getting thicker at a rate of 1.8 centimeters per year for the last decade, which constitutes about 45 BILLION metric tons of ice being added per year.


This VASTLY outweighs the ice being lost at the north pole. Ice is simply shifting from one pole to the other.... which is something that has happened many times over the history of this planet.



Please don't believe the hype Mark.



.:2 cents:

Blame the Jews or Canada, whoever invented problem Y2k.

Personally? Yes. But fear-mongering and mud-slinging is not limited to just the US.

Sadly, the bi-partisan system goes to great lengths to limit third parties from gaining any traction/funding.

Hi Bob,

I don't really know as I have not studied this much, but the basic premise, is that there is a hidden cost to things such as oil, paper and petroleum products. For example, A Big Mac and a coke costs you only about $8.00, but the actual cost to the Earth itself (animals, food processing, paper packaging, delivery etc), is much higher. The idea then with Carbon credit trading has people like you and me essentially paying that extra cost.

This wasn't really my point, nor should anyone dismiss global warming because they don't agree with the carbon credit trading system. The only point should be is this: Global Warming is bad, and it's happening, and this is a sad fact. What is just as sad though, are powerful people who either do not believe it is happening, or do not care.

he'd destroy America even further

Mark, please check out my reply above to your comment about how it is definitely happening, you just have to look at the poles.

antarctica is not getting bigger. which conservatice fuck nut did you hear this from?

Here are just a few of the wacko fuck nut studies out there...


http://www.sciencemag.org/content/ea...cience.1200109


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Antarctica


http://www.sciencemag.org/content/308/5730/1898


http://www.physorg.com/news4180.html


I know that it's a big scary interweb and all.... but it's not THAT hard to use...




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In case clicking links is too hard, here is an example:

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Widespread Persistent Thickening of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet by Freezing from the Base

1. Robin E. Bell1,
2. Fausto Ferraccioli2,
3. Timothy T. Creyts1,
4. David Braaten3,
5. Hugh Corr2,
6. Indrani Das1,
7. Detlef Damaske4,
8. Nicholas Frearson1,
9. Thomas Jordan2,
10. Kathryn Rose2,
11. Michael Studinger5, and
12. Michael Wolovick1

+ Author Affiliations

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1Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University, Palisades, NY 10964, USA.
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2British Antarctic Survey, High Cross, Madingley Road, Cambridge CB3 0ET, UK.
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3Center for the Remote Sensing of Ice Sheets, Kansas University, Lawrence, KS, USA.
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4Bundesanstalt für Geowissenschaften und Rohstoffe, Hannover, Germany.
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5Goddard Earth Science and Technology Center, University of Maryland Baltimore County, MD, and NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, MD, USA.

Abstract

An International Polar Year aerogeophysical investigation of the high interior of East Antarctica reveals widespread freeze-on that drives significant mass redistribution at the bottom of the ice sheet. While surface accumulation of snow remains the primary mechanism for ice sheet growth, beneath Dome A 24% of the base by area is frozen-on ice. In some places, up to half the ice thickness has been added from below. These ice packages result from conductive cooling of water ponded near the Gamburtsev Subglacial Mountain ridges and supercooling of water forced up steep valley walls. Persistent freeze-on thickens the ice column, alters basal ice rheology and fabric and upwarps the overlying ice sheet, including the oldest atmospheric climate archive, and drives flow behavior not captured in present models.

* Received for publication 8 November 2010.
* Accepted for publication 18 February 2011.



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Go ahead, try some of the others. I know you can do it. Go on now!


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Hey, im reading, im reading :D

Sorry... I was inbetween conference calls and I got impatient... Carry on. :)





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why do people argue about global warming ? we are polluting/trashing the planet, what does it matter if it is changing the climate, that should be the least of our concerns.

Someone should make a cartoon showing a group of people in the future sitting in a cess pool of filth, medical waste, sewage etc , one of them should be saying " see i told you global warming was a myth "

i think we need to re-evaluate success.

The solution to losing industry to china is NOT to allow our industry to pollute as bad as china does. The solution is stop buying chinese coathangers simply because they are a few cents cheaper than american coathangers.