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Sid70 04-19-2011 08:29 AM

You shall not pass!
 
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Why "SHALL" not WILL?

GFY Experts in here, plz!

Scott McD 04-19-2011 08:34 AM

Fatfoo has all the answers...

FlexxAeon 04-19-2011 09:10 AM

proper english

UniqueD 04-19-2011 09:19 AM

Shall With Determination
The British traditionally use shall to express determination or intention on the part of the speaker or someone other than the subject of the verb. Fowler’s offers an example from British author Evelyn Waugh: “One day you shall know my full story.” This does seem to offer a different connotation than “One day you will know my full story.” It makes the author sound more determined. However, using shall in this way isn't common in America (1).

Tom_PM 04-19-2011 09:27 AM

"You will not pass" sounds like a wimpy prediction.
"You shall not pass" sounds like enforcement is pending.

Sid70 04-19-2011 09:33 AM

Got it, thanks. So "WILL" is kinda not that determined and sure.

CaptainHowdy 04-19-2011 09:34 AM

What a "peculiar" concern ...

ilnjscb 04-19-2011 09:35 AM

Shall is used in the second and third persons to imply that the will of the subject is not being taken into account, such as to make a promise, command or threat. That's why I never say, "Shall you pass me the butter?"

RyuLion 04-19-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 18069821)
Shall is used in the second and third persons to imply that the will of the subject is not being taken into account, such as to make a promise, command or threat. That's why I never say, "Shall you pass me the butter?"

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Chosen 04-19-2011 09:44 AM

It should be "Thou shalt not pass" :)

Sid70 04-19-2011 09:49 AM

I'm sure sure you bastid you will not pass = You shall not pass :)

DWB 04-19-2011 09:50 AM

You ass hats are assuming they speak the same English on Middle Earth as we humans do on normal earth.

Jeeze.

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Houdini 04-19-2011 10:02 AM

Gandalf is a top, that's why.

ilnjscb 04-19-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chosen (Post 18069854)
It should be "Thou shalt not pass" :)

That would mean the Balrog is familiar, like a drunk uncle or a lap dog. Though if he is whipping you with his fiery whip, only a small portion of your brain could be devoted to proper grammar, so you'd probably get a pass.


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