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Dr_Ace 01-22-2003 11:34 AM

best speakers for home cinema ????
 
help me to choose
i want something cool

thanks


PS. everything except bose

thesexattic 01-22-2003 11:35 AM

JVC 5 speaker system

Bose Home theatre

PersianKitty 01-22-2003 11:38 AM

Atlantic or Klipsch

JohnV 01-22-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr_Ace
help me to choose
i want something cool

thanks


PS. everything except bose

Well, I have no idea what your budget is, but B&W are the best ever. http://www.bwspeakers.com/

If that is over budget, then I recommend Klipsch. http://www.klipsch.com/

I have a mix of B&W and Klipsch...oh yeah, and some ADS home speakers also. Watching a movie without big sound is useless:thumbsup

machineg 01-22-2003 11:38 AM

I just bought the 650watt rca home theatre... nicest sound Ive ever heard ..

but anything sounds better than the 1967 sears model I just threw out .

Dr_Ace 01-22-2003 11:41 AM

not bose cuz i have problems with the local bose dealer

budget $1000-$1500


If you know URLs will be useful

and thanks again

LadyMischief 01-22-2003 11:41 AM

I like my polks... Kickass quality of sound, no distortion, and they stand the test of time..this is my second pair (the first went with the asshole in the divorce), and I tell ya, they are just awesome.

LadyMischief 01-22-2003 11:45 AM

Oh, I should mention, for subs, Infinity. I *LOVE* my Infinity sub.. they can hear it 7kms away as clear as anything..and man they can PUMP.

bigdog 01-22-2003 11:47 AM

klipsch 7 series
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/allhomet...pref7sert.html

chupacabra 01-22-2003 11:47 AM

avoid BOSE like the plague, overpriced garbage... take a look at the offerings from 'LINN', very nice stuff..

Dr_Ace 01-22-2003 11:57 AM

i like small size speakers with elegant design

btw i had accoustimass 10 series 2 but was not good enough

NoCarrier 01-22-2003 12:09 PM

http://www.messina-electronics.com/n...01/images1.gif

http://www.messina-electronics.com/n..._animation.gif

http://www.messina-electronics.com

This is what I have. It rocks.

1 - (5)DV-500, Rear and Center "In-Corner®":

2 Way, 4" Midrange, 2" Tweeter, Injected wood Cabinet, Magnetically shielded, 100 Watts maximum input power, 98db 1 watt / 1 meter, Frequency response: 150Hz to 20kHz, Dimensions: 9" x 9" x 9" 5 Years parts and labour limited warranty

2 - Powered Subwoofer DVSUB-1:

12" Woofer, 400 watts maximum output power, 100 watts rms, Variable volume control, automatic shut off, low level input, high level input, variable crossover. Frequency response: 28Hz to 150Hz, Dimensions: 15" x 15" x 10" 1 Year parts and labour limited warranty

3 - (4)Wall mounting kit:

4 wall mounting brackets, corner mounting or flat wall mounting.

4 - Wire concealer:

32' Paintable wire concealer.

5 - Speaker wire:

150' 18 Awg speaker wire. 12' RCA Cable.

Dr_Ace 01-22-2003 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
http://www.messina-electronics.com/n...01/images1.gif

http://www.messina-electronics.com/n..._animation.gif

http://www.messina-electronics.com

This is what I have. It rocks.

1 - (5)DV-500, Rear and Center "In-Corner®":

2 Way, 4" Midrange, 2" Tweeter, Injected wood Cabinet, Magnetically shielded, 100 Watts maximum input power, 98db 1 watt / 1 meter, Frequency response: 150Hz to 20kHz, Dimensions: 9" x 9" x 9" 5 Years parts and labour limited warranty

2 - Powered Subwoofer DVSUB-1:

12" Woofer, 400 watts maximum output power, 100 watts rms, Variable volume control, automatic shut off, low level input, high level input, variable crossover. Frequency response: 28Hz to 150Hz, Dimensions: 15" x 15" x 10" 1 Year parts and labour limited warranty

3 - (4)Wall mounting kit:

4 wall mounting brackets, corner mounting or flat wall mounting.

4 - Wire concealer:

32' Paintable wire concealer.

5 - Speaker wire:

150' 18 Awg speaker wire. 12' RCA Cable.


whats the price for them ?

looks like a star wars speakers system :)

MikeFold 01-22-2003 12:24 PM

tough question...
speakers (at any price) are "beauty is in the ear of the listener"
(an analogy of beauty is in the eye of the beholder)

I have spent megabucks on top end speakers and was less than thrilled. When I installed my first home theater, I had all top of the line stuff, and "other" people thought it sounded great.
I was still less than impressed.

This may help or confuse the heck out of you....
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/index.php

Some good reviews etc...etc..., but, much like GFY, take it with a grain of salt.

For the money, Infinity, B&W and Bose (center speaker only) are available and at least go on sale every once in awhile....
The Sony Dream is pretty good for 999 at Best Buy
(although I do not like, personally, the mid range or sub)

Again, test...listen, and remember to test the whole system (at minimum, the center and front L & R together.
For Dolby 7.1 you may want an "orphan" rear center....

NoCarrier 01-22-2003 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
http://www.messina-electronics.com/n...01/images1.gif

http://www.messina-electronics.com/n..._animation.gif

http://www.messina-electronics.com

This is what I have. It rocks.

1 - (5)DV-500, Rear and Center "In-Corner®":

2 Way, 4" Midrange, 2" Tweeter, Injected wood Cabinet, Magnetically shielded, 100 Watts maximum input power, 98db 1 watt / 1 meter, Frequency response: 150Hz to 20kHz, Dimensions: 9" x 9" x 9" 5 Years parts and labour limited warranty

2 - Powered Subwoofer DVSUB-1:

12" Woofer, 400 watts maximum output power, 100 watts rms, Variable volume control, automatic shut off, low level input, high level input, variable crossover. Frequency response: 28Hz to 150Hz, Dimensions: 15" x 15" x 10" 1 Year parts and labour limited warranty

3 - (4)Wall mounting kit:

4 wall mounting brackets, corner mounting or flat wall mounting.

4 - Wire concealer:

32' Paintable wire concealer.

5 - Speaker wire:

150' 18 Awg speaker wire. 12' RCA Cable.

It should be around 1k USD or even less.. I paid 1,300 CDN

Theo 01-22-2003 12:45 PM

H A F L E R

Rocky 01-22-2003 01:18 PM

a good harmond/kardon receiver

and 5.1 infinity speaker package (2 fronts, center, sub, 2 back)
:thumbsup

evildick 01-22-2003 02:42 PM

http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/x1/index.html

Just buy 5 of those.

You might have to get a second mortgage though.

Only $75,900 USD per pair.

fang 01-22-2003 02:58 PM

My system has Boston speakers
It's a little older but still sounds great :thumbsup

Dr_Ace 01-22-2003 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/x1/index.html

Just buy 5 of those.

You might have to get a second mortgage though.

Only $75,900 USD per pair.



:helpme

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machineg
I just bought the 650watt rca home theatre... nicest sound Ive ever heard ..

but anything sounds better than the 1967 sears model I just threw out .


rca hahahah you think your getting 650 watts? hahha try 65 with full 6 speaker load.

Maxpixelz 01-22-2003 03:11 PM

best speakers bar none are Martin Logan

http://www.martinlogan.com/

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:13 PM

http://www.paradigm.ca/Website/SiteP...e/systems.html check these guys out. A buddy of mine got the system7 setup and he swears by them. He's also a guy with whom money is no object. Damn guy has a $20k amp and preamp pushing them (Bryston). Best fucking setup around. He is using an Infinity sub though.

machineg 01-22-2003 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx



rca hahahah you think your getting 650 watts? hahha try 65 with full 6 speaker load.

100w per speaker.... never said it was golden . but I am totally pleased with it .

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machineg


100w per speaker.... never said it was golden . but I am totally pleased with it .

it's not 100 per speaker, it's 100 watt with any channel tested with only one speaker hooked up to teh whole system. My jvc is teh same way, claims 500 watts, but in fine prin says "100 watts per channel tested with one load" At least JVC didn't lie. Only way to get full power is to get an amp that has a certified High Current power supply.

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:23 PM

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL026800

This is teh amp I plan to get, I really love the sound of my curent JVC but I want High Current. This one has that :)

It's the same thing as http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L026195&page=2 except the first one doesnt have dvd-audio multichannel

evildick 01-22-2003 03:25 PM

Sometimes they rate them only at 1khz too.

For a more accurate rating they need to test them from 20hz to 20khz with all channels driven and less than 1% distortion.

If an amp doesn't give it's rating under those conditions then they are trying to pull one over on ya.

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
Sometimes they rate them only at 100 hz too.

For a more accurate rating they need to test them from 20hz to 20khz with all channels driven and less than 1% distortion.

If an amp doesn't give it's rating under those conditions then they are trying to pull one over on ya.

They always claim weird shit and put teh truth in fine print, or soemtimes, not at all. Which is why I can;t stand sony, A 500 watt sony 5.1 system is really only a 150 watt system.

Gutterboy 01-22-2003 03:27 PM

Speakers always disappoint me. You have to spend $10,000+ on them to start getting close to the 3D clarity you can get from spending $400-$1000 on a pair of headphones.

evildick 01-22-2003 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy
Speakers always disappoint me. You have to spend $10,000+ on them to start getting close to the 3D clarity you can get from spending $400-$1000 on a pair of headphones.
Sad but true. In my old house I had thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment and it sounded like shit simply because of the room it was in.

No sense in even wasting your money on the high end stuff if you're not willing to do something to fix the problems your listening room will create. You pretty much have to have a dedicated home theater room.

(or you can spend a hundred bucks on headphones)
:glugglug

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy
Speakers always disappoint me. You have to spend $10,000+ on them to start getting close to the 3D clarity you can get from spending $400-$1000 on a pair of headphones.
Well todays speakers are SHIT. nothign but fucking cheap plastic subs and litle gay cubes. Thats why I buy 20 year old speakers, big bulky, loud and FAT! (fat = big bottom). The only way I will buy new speakers in this day and age is if they are full tower boutique such as paradigm fulls, polk audio fulls, etc etc

iwantchixx 01-22-2003 03:38 PM

The speaker in teh background on the black wooden stand is almost 30 years old. Back when they first started using rubber impregnated spiders. The rubber shit is still shiny :) The dman thing has MEGA low end and very good range.

Teh monster you see in teh foreground is a subwoofer project gone freaky... I went overboard on that one. My neighbours will agree to this, it's fucking PURE EVIL!


http://back-off-bitch.net/temp/box.jpg

frankfortuna 01-22-2003 03:54 PM

Although placement is very critical, I use a Martin Logan / Bryston combination in my theater which works very nicely.

Shoplifter 01-22-2003 03:56 PM

www.bwspeakers.com

I have 804 fronts, 805 rears and the Htm1 center. If you are serious about audio there is nothing better.

SNOW 01-22-2003 03:57 PM

YOu can have the most expensive speakers in the world but if your amp cant drive them properly it will sound like shit. Always match what you have. If you buy a thousand dollar amp then your speakers dont have to be all that. You putt a crappy amp to B&w's you will be ripped off.

If your gonna buy b&w's plan on spending 4k for a good amp. Your processor alone is 6k made by lexicon-Mc-1 Plan on spending big bucks just for bass. let the subs to the pounding so your channeled speakers dont work to hard. Good luck building a systemn is alot of fun and takes thousands of dollars and time. I spent 12k just on subs and cooper cables.

Just placing your subs is a project in itself let alone tesing acoustical feedback for placement of speakers and setting milli seconds. It's a sickness for me when it comes to this I love it. ICQ me if you need help here are some links.. You have to tewll yourself what you can afford then go by that. Under 2k just go to best buy.

lexicon.com-processors
sunfire.com-subs/amps
Klipsh kicks ass for the money and is perfect for Home theatre.

Grab two of these
http://www.sunfire.com/images/produc...magrandsig.jpg
Grab 4 of these
http://www.sunfire.com/images/produc...e/submark4.jpg
Grab 4 of these
http://www.klipsch.com/images/produc.../388_large.jpg

You will have full range audio. Get a good center and 2 side channel hanging klipsh and your rocking.

My system is 9 channels

front right
front left

center

right rear
left rear

right center
left center

Subs which are amplified already.
couch channel for installing vibrating modules in your couch.

Good Luck SNOW

Gutterboy 01-22-2003 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
Teh monster you see in teh foreground is a subwoofer project gone freaky... I went overboard on that one. My neighbours will agree to this, it's fucking PURE EVIL!

My bro, myself and a few friends once built a subwoofer using a 45" speaker we, uh, liberated from a largely unused (great rationalization..) church organ.

Not only did we build a plywood box for it, we mounted that fucker iin the trunk of my friend chris' Volkswagon Jetta. I don't remember the wattage, but this was back when "booming" cars were coming into fashion, and he had a very high powered stereo system in there to begin with.

We put this album called "Bassenthrobulation" in the CD deck and cranked the volume. Holy fuck! It wasn't pretty, but my god.. it was one of the most amazing sounds I've ever heard. We thought the damn car was going to come apart...

Rip 01-22-2003 03:59 PM

I listened to a lot of stuff and ended up with a pair of linn speakers, which are above almost anything else out there

I would avoid bose, it's overpriced garbage, you should be able to pick up a pair of linn's for about 4K us$

Best advice is to get a hold of a number of cd's which you like and listen to regularly, pick some which are a good example of music quality in the theme, and then bring them with you

Most important speaker investment probably is a top of the line subwoofer, which you'll need for DVDs -don't look at anything under 12"

For surrounds, check out the AIM series, inconspicous and adjustable for your room's accoustics, you can pick some great surrounds for about $4-6K for four speakers

Ultimately, it's all going to fall on your amps,
good amps will cost you $5-25K

Dr_Ace 01-23-2003 08:19 AM

looks that i have to spend a fortune for get some nice speakers
and i was thinging that bose was expensive

a big thanks to all for the help

Dr_Ace 01-23-2003 10:27 AM

Any comment for http://www.crystalaudio.com speakers ??

FreeNetPass Dave 01-23-2003 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnV


Well, I have no idea what your budget is, but B&W are the best ever. http://www.bwspeakers.com/


I agree. 802's here.

JohnV 01-23-2003 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr_Ace
looks that i have to spend a fortune for get some nice speakers
and i was thinging that bose was expensive

a big thanks to all for the help

You don't have to spend a fortune at all. It all depends on your "needs" and your budget. You can get great sound from a complete set of Klipsch (2) front floorstanding, (2) rear floorstanding, (2) additional surround for rear center, (1) center and (1 or 2) subs. Reference series or Synergy work very well. Est cost depending on level of speakers could be anywhere from $4K to $8K. You can also go with almost any major brand (Polk, Infiniti, B&W...whatever. Go check out all of them and make you own decision. You'll know what you like when you see them and hear them for yourself. Now go spend some $$$$$$ and let us know what you end up getting. :2 cents:

JohnV 01-23-2003 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeNetPass Dave


I agree. 802's here.

Those absolutely rock! Truely great sound does not come cheap for sure. A room full of B&W's is not cheap by any means. Like I said, it all depends on how deep your pockets are or how much debt your willing to go into for the home theater.

Scott McD 01-23-2003 11:06 AM

Wrong thread..

Yo Adrian 01-23-2003 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxpixelz
best speakers bar none are Martin Logan

http://www.martinlogan.com/

Damn right....nothing comes close

Dr_Ace 01-23-2003 11:58 AM

Nautilus series its too expensive for me


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