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blackmonsters 03-18-2011 02:55 PM

The reasons that I'm not worried about .xxx
 
1. I haven't typed in a .net in years, neither have my surfers. xxx will be the same.

2. xxx can't go live without notice, so 301 redirects to any new domain will work out.

3. Arbitration can get your xxx name from anyone who buys it.(if you even wanted it)

4. google will not make xxx rank higher because it is cost prohibitive for the current
.com domains to duplicate in xxx; therefore .com will still be more relevent.

5. 2257 for secondary producers failed for the same reasons that mandatory move
to xxx will fail.

6. Only fools will flock to xxx as type-ins because everyone else will be worried about
malware.

7. I'm the fucking mack and fuck you. (links blocked from pulling :1orglaugh)

alias 03-18-2011 02:59 PM

The people who want to make this matter to you are currently silent and watching to see what people will sit back and allow.

Tempest 03-18-2011 03:01 PM

Riiigghhhhttttttt... Except as time passes, more and more governments will start passing laws to push all porn sites, sites with adult content into using that extension... Look for it in a couple years...

Alprazolam 03-18-2011 03:02 PM

it only works if you idiots buy the domain names.

slapass 03-18-2011 03:03 PM

So far i can't find anything that pushes porn to XXX it just says you can.

alias 03-18-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17989269)
it only works if you idiots buy the domain names.

Exactly!

kane 03-18-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17989268)
Riiigghhhhttttttt... Except as time passes, more and more governments will start passing laws to push all porn sites, sites with adult content into using that extension... Look for it in a couple years...

While I can't speak for other countries, this will be pretty damn hard to do here in the US. Not too long ago there was the COPA law that wanted to force all adult sites to put age verification on their site. It was struck down by the supreme court because they said that existing filtering software made it easy for those who wanted to block this kind of content. I can't see them now saying that that software is not good enough therefore all sites will now have to have a .xxx.

This is not to mention that most conservative groups don't want .xxx because they feel it legitimizes the industry. They want us out of business, not legitimized and given our piece of property on the www.

BlackCrayon 03-18-2011 03:25 PM

ironically i think the only people who will be typing in .xxx domains will be kids.

woj 03-18-2011 03:29 PM

fears are a bit exaggerated, but no doubt it's a step in the wrong direction... :2 cents:

blackmonsters 03-18-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17989268)
Riiigghhhhttttttt... Except as time passes, more and more governments will start passing laws to push all porn sites, sites with adult content into using that extension... Look for it in a couple years...

:1orglaugh

The shit I'm saying now is the same shit I said about 2257 for secondary producers,
and you are saying the same shit I heard then.

:1orglaugh

You panicking and scared MoFos roll over and take a dick from anybody with a
loud mouth.

:pimp

Tempest 03-18-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17989293)
Not too long ago there was the COPA law that wanted to force all adult sites to put age verification on their site. It was struck down by the supreme court because they said that existing filtering software made it easy for those who wanted to block this kind of content. I can't see them now saying that that software is not good enough therefore all sites will now have to have a .xxx.

True.. However, COPA was adding an extra layer onto the site that did the same thing that the software would do.. sort of... forcing porn into .xxx isn't the same thing. Instead, it would make it easier for that software to do it's job whereas the age verification thing didn't.

It doesn't matter really what things might get struck down, it's that laws can be put in place pushing people into .xxx. Regardless of whether or not it gets struck down in the end, it would force everyone to move in that direction. eg: 2257.

kane 03-18-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17989477)
True.. However, COPA was adding an extra layer onto the site that did the same thing that the software would do.. sort of... forcing porn into .xxx isn't the same thing. Instead, it would make it easier for that software to do it's job whereas the age verification thing didn't.

It doesn't matter really what things might get struck down, it's that laws can be put in place pushing people into .xxx. Regardless of whether or not it gets struck down in the end, it would force everyone to move in that direction. eg: 2257.

They are different, but idealistically they are very similar. The supreme court said there was no need for this age verification because the filtering software did its job well enough that the average person could easily avoid most of it. Since then filtering has only gotten more sophisticated so I think it would be very hard for them to argue that a .xxx is needed to help make filtering work better.

But, as you say, the kicker is a law. If they pass a law I would assume an injunction stopping it from being enforced/put to use would be given while the legalities of it are figured out so in theory people wouldn't be forced to go to a .xxx while the court cases were pending. But there is no way of knowing this for certain.

I personally think they won't pass such a law. There are many politicians, especially conservatives who hate this industry, who were very much against .xxx. If they force us to use it that would be a way of them giving us a form of legitimacy. Also, there are many laws on the books that stop cities from creating red-light districts and "ghettos" where they put all of the businesses that they feel are "less desirable." Forcing the use of a .xxx would essentially be doing just that so the argument could be made that if is wrong in the brick and mortar world, it is wrong online.

Of course, in the end, you never know. A law could pass, they could make a good argument and the courts could uphold it. But I have a feeling it just won't happen.

u-Bob 03-18-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17989523)
They are different, but idealistically they are very similar. The supreme court said there was no need for this age verification because the filtering software did its job well enough that the average person could easily avoid most of it. Since then filtering has only gotten more sophisticated so I think it would be very hard for them to argue that a .xxx is needed to help make filtering work better.

And we could all strengthen our argument that .xxx is not needed to filter content by using metatags that identify our content as being 'adult'.

Supz 03-18-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17989269)
it only works if you idiots buy the domain names.

No matter what, people are going to buy the domains. Either site developers or domainers. Everyone is going to try to get the best domains right away.

Barry-xlovecam 03-18-2011 06:26 PM

Is this to be a "flash in the pan" like .info?

Or as the forerunner of "Anti-Porn Nuremberg Laws?"

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Tempest 03-18-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17989629)
And we could all strengthen our argument that .xxx is not needed to filter content by using metatags that identify our content as being 'adult'.

Do you currently do this??? I do but I know the vast majority don't and never will.

cherrylula 03-18-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17989330)
ironically i think the only people who will be typing in .xxx domains will be kids.

qft 123456

cherrylula 03-18-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17989638)
No matter what, people are going to buy the domains. Either site developers or domainers. Everyone is going to try to get the best domains right away.

also, qft

u-Bob 03-18-2011 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 17989682)
Do you currently do this??? I do but I know the vast majority don't and never will.

I do and have been doing so on the majority of my sites.

Most webmasters don't because:
- they don't know how to do it.
- they don't care.

Socks 03-18-2011 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17989269)
it only works if you idiots buy the domain names.

Any business owner who chooses to forfeit real money in a blind and mislead attempt at "sticking it to stuart" or whomever their beef is with will - lose money. I'm not sure how many people are going to lose money trying to fight against this once it's passed and operating.

I don't see a huge flock to .xxx, but I also can see how future laws will force us into drinking the koolaid.

u-Bob 03-18-2011 07:20 PM

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Quote:

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