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$5 submissions 03-12-2011 04:20 PM

Losing Traffic? Google adds BLOCK DOMAIN to search function
 
In its quest to improve user experience, Google has announced that it now allows users to BLOCK domains. In essence, this is supposed to let you "get more of what you're looking for".

I don't really see this boosting user experience UNLESS it is socialized (ie., there's an algo that weeds out fake votes and detects a uniform authentic pattern and blocks domains based on social preferences)

Regardless, it might lead to less traffic if a lot of your site or blog's materials are generic content, duplicate-looking content, etc. I see this development favoring a move toward "authority" type content.

Source: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/...-what-you.html

Quote:

You?ve probably had the experience where you?ve clicked a result and it wasn?t quite what you were looking for. Many times you?ll head right back to Google. Perhaps the result just wasn?t quite right, but sometimes you may dislike the site in general, whether it?s offensive, pornographic or of generally low quality. For times like these, you?ll start seeing a new option to block particular domains from your future search results. Now when you click a result and then return to Google, you?ll find a new link next to ?Cached? that reads ?Block all example.com results.?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...att_option.png

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 04:23 PM

This was already posted days ago, and completely ignored repeatedly by our prudent webmaster community :1orglaugh

$5 submissions 03-12-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975349)
This was already posted days ago, and completely ignored repeatedly by our prudent webmaster community :1orglaugh

Hehehe well, if Google gets a clue regarding socializing the impact of this--it would definitely hit people's bottomlines :helpme

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17975356)
Hehehe well, if Google gets a clue regarding socializing the impact of this--it would definitely hit people's bottomlines :helpme

Everything is hurting people's bottom lines these days. Cookies are on thin ice, billing seems to be more and more of an issue all the time, Google can't seem to keep it's head screwed on anymore, the law is stepping on webmaster's toes (see "amazon tax" and amazon's continuing closing of their program to more and more states). The best advice I could give anyone who is middle of the pack, paying the bills type webmasters, is start thinking backup plan now. You'd better have a decent real world job on the line the way things are starting to look.

Brujah 03-12-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975400)
Everything is hurting people's bottom lines these days.

And encouraging more people to go blackhat or think short-term, get rich quick and get out.

icymelon 03-12-2011 06:27 PM

someone is still getting clicks

blackmonsters 03-12-2011 06:52 PM

As a surfer, I like it.

I would like to have that function in all my browsers too.
Not only to block sites with bullshit content, but also to block sites that
have viruses. I don't want to accidently click the site again or have the
browser load it up automatically when I open the browser again.

The only reason for someone to block my sites is if they don't like my porn and
in that case, who cares. Not like they are going to join a pay site anyway.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17975603)
As a surfer, I like it.

I would like to have that function in all my browsers too.
Not only to block sites with bullshit content, but also to block sites that
have viruses. I don't want to accidently click the site again or have the
browser load it up automatically when I open the browser again.

The only reason for someone to block my sites is if they don't like my porn and
in that case, who cares. Not like they are going to join a pay site anyway.

I'm partially in agreement. I mean if a user is going to block your site, it's not like they had any intention on ever returning anyways. Right? The issue I see, is that it's almost certain Google is going to give some relevance in the ranks to whether or not your site has been blocked, and how many blocks it has received. This opens a whole new can of worms if that's the case...

halfpint 03-12-2011 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975400)
Everything is hurting people's bottom lines these days. Cookies are on thin ice, billing seems to be more and more of an issue all the time, Google can't seem to keep it's head screwed on anymore, the law is stepping on webmaster's toes (see "amazon tax" and amazon's continuing closing of their program to more and more states). The best advice I could give anyone who is middle of the pack, paying the bills type webmasters, is start thinking backup plan now. You'd better have a decent real world job on the line the way things are starting to look.

I had no choice but to get a real world job and i seem to be doing far better with mainstream now than porn.

blackmonsters 03-12-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975611)
I'm partially in agreement. I mean if a user is going to block your site, it's not like they had any intention on ever returning anyways. Right? The issue I see, is that it's almost certain Google is going to give some relevance in the ranks to whether or not your site has been blocked, and how many blocks it has received. This opens a whole new can of worms if that's the case...

Will not matter, since the blocker will block all porn or no porn.

Your porn will not be blocked more than anyone else's porn and people who
want porn will continue to click on your link instead of any mainstream link that
rises in rank from this system thus making that mainstream site go back down in ranking
where it belonged.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17975623)
Will not matter, since the blocker will block all porn or no porn.

Your porn will not be blocked more than anyone else's porn and people who
want porn will continue to click on your link instead of any mainstream link that
rises in rank from this system thus making that mainstream site go back down in ranking
where it belonged.

Put the crack pipe down for a second and make some sense. How the fuck did this become a mainstream vs porn issue?..

glowlite 03-12-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975611)
I'm partially in agreement. I mean if a user is going to block your site, it's not like they had any intention on ever returning anyways. Right? The issue I see, is that it's almost certain Google is going to give some relevance in the ranks to whether or not your site has been blocked, and how many blocks it has received. This opens a whole new can of worms if that's the case...

The "whole new can of worms" issue is earning your way to the top of the SERPs because you deserve it, or, blackhatting your way there. If surfers block it it's probably because it did not deliver their search term results as expected. I love the Bing TV commercials airing in the US, they describe Google SERPs to a T.

In the mid-to-late 80s Google (in their infancy) delivered what surfers wanted.
They earned their way to the top. Now however they are a sell-out at best.
Now? not so much. Most often? not at all, not even close.

F U C K _ G O O G L E !

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 17975648)
The "whole new can of worms" issue is earning your way to the top of the SERPs because you deserve it, or, blackhatting your way there. If surfers block it it's probably because it did not deliver their search term results as expected. I love the Bing TV commercials airing in the US, they describe Google SERPs to a T.

In the mid-to-late 80s Google (in their infancy) delivered what surfers wanted.
They earned their way to the top. Now however they are a sell-out at best.
Now? not so much. Most often? not at all, not even close.

F U C K _ G O O G L E !

The can of worms has less to do with legitimate application by surfers, and more to do with the inevitable manipulation which will take place. If this does indeed hold weight in the algorithm (which it may or may not) it is essentially giving a golden gun to those who are first to the finish line in determining it's weak points...

u-Bob 03-12-2011 07:49 PM

1. byebye experts-advice or whatever it's called.
2. If Google wants to improve the quality of their results, the only thing they have to do is stop pretending they know better than the surfer.

After having spent years and years online I have a pretty good idea of how to use a search engine... I know what the look for, how to look for something, how to exclude certain words... However, Google knows better. Google knows that it is better to include half of what i wanted to exclude. Google knows it is better to include a couple of synonyms of what I wanted to exclude. If there's a difference between a certain word and that same word with an 's' appended to it and I deliberately search for the first word, Google knows it's better to include the word with an 's' appended to it because according to Google that word might be the plural.... even if it's not..... *sigh*

blackmonsters 03-12-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975640)
Put the crack pipe down for a second and make some sense. How the fuck did this become a mainstream vs porn issue?..

Your SEO must suck then because my sites comes up with mainstream in SE results.

:pimp

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17975684)
Your SEO must suck then because my sites comes up with mainstream in SE results.

:pimp

What the fuck are you even talking about? Your porn sites show up for mainstream searches? Uhh, ok. Congratulations or something? Aside from the fact that you might get blocked in that situation how does this pertain to the subject at all? For an SEO expert you're pretty fucking dense when it comes to the subject...

blackmonsters 03-12-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975692)
What the fuck are you even talking about? Your porn sites show up for mainstream searches? Uhh, ok. Congratulations or something? Aside from the fact that you might get blocked in that situation how does this pertain to the subject at all? For an SEO expert you're pretty fucking dense when it comes to the subject...

I didn't say I was an SEO expert or that I even use SEO; I simply stated that
you must suck at SEO. :error


Anyway, I was trying to be nice about your stupid fear and point out why
you need not worry. But I should have known that you would not even have
this fear if you already understood what I was saying.

So you are stupid and I can't fix. I should have known.

:winkwink:

Due 03-12-2011 08:07 PM

Interesting, this may put focus on quality over quantity

$5 submissions 03-12-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 17975704)
Interesting, this may put focus on quality over quantity

On paper, it sounds good but given the recent rampage in SERPS against content farms (content-based link farms will probably be soon to follow), it all depends on how Big G defines "quality". Regardless, I agree with you regarding need for some standardization.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17975700)
I didn't say I was an SEO expert or that I even use SEO; I simply stated that
you must suck at SEO. :error


Anyway, I was trying to be nice about your stupid fear and point out why
you need not worry. But I should have known that you would not even have
this fear if you already understood what I was saying.

So you are stupid and I can't fix. I should have known.

:winkwink:

Maybe you should move over to slinging crack, stealing bicycles, or some other profession that doesn't require the ability to adequately communicate your thoughts in an intelligible manner. Seriously, your last 2 posts made about zero fucking sense. It took you 3 fucking tries to get one simple thought out in a way someone can actually understand it, and that was a stretch. Got any other random, non-coherent thoughts you'd like to toss out there while you're at it? Seriously, who's fucking stupid here? :2 cents:

blackmonsters 03-12-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975714)
Maybe you should move over to slinging crack, stealing bicycles, or some other profession that doesn't require the ability to adequately communicate your thoughts in an intelligible manner. Seriously, your last 2 posts made about zero fucking sense. It took you 3 fucking tries to get one simple thought out in a way someone can actually understand it, and that was a stretch. Got any other random, non-coherent thoughts you'd like to toss out there while you're at it? Seriously, who's fucking stupid here? :2 cents:

Seriously, the fact that you keep that shit in your sig for more than 2 days is
proof of how stupid your are.

:2 cents:

SallyRand 03-12-2011 08:24 PM

I seem to recall that SOMEONE recently suggested that if one were to have traffic to one's site, one would have to DRIVE traffic to that site instead of sucking the dick of the Great False God Google.

Also seem to remember that SOMEONE was repeatedly told that they were full of shit.

Seems to SOMEONE that DRIVING traffic to one's site is the ONLY way that ANYONE is going to make it in future.

of course, i could be wrong..................................

............not bloody likely though.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17975728)
I seem to recall that SOMEONE recently suggested that if one were to have traffic to one's site, one would have to DRIVE traffic to that site instead of sucking the dick of the Great False God Google.

Also seem to remember that SOMEONE was repeatedly told that they were full of shit.

Seems to SOMEONE that DRIVING traffic to one's site is the ONLY way that ANYONE is going to make it in future.

of course, i could be wrong..................................

............not bloody likely though.

How's it going old man?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-12-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17975722)
Seriously, the fact that you keep that shit in your sig for more than 2 days is
proof of how stupid your are.

:2 cents:

I knew you had some more completely irrelevant shit to dribble. Anything else you'd like to spew, or do you have something legible and on topic to contribute?

d-null 03-12-2011 08:48 PM

if they do socialize it, I wonder how long before some blackhat service pops up where you can buy "blocks" to your competitors sites?

say pay someone $100 for 5000 spread-out-over-many-users-ips blocks on a few of sites higher than yours in the serps

TheDoc 03-12-2011 08:56 PM

I use it... I used the plugin they had before that.

So many tech/code/help sites that are complete trash. Sites with just the question and you have to pay or register to see the answer, or the same crap code sites that repeat the same unusable trash, so much trash no mater what you're looking at.

I don't care if anyone else uses it, I freak'in love it!

glowlite 03-12-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17975656)
The can of worms has less to do with legitimate application by surfers, and more to do with the inevitable manipulation which will take place. If this does indeed hold weight in the algorithm (which it may or may not) it is essentially giving a golden gun to those who are first to the finish line in determining it's weak points...

That's pretty much exactly what I said, this goes way beyond the reason and logic of SEO ;)

Google now functions in a similar way as MS software has for years. Kind of like "We know what you typed in", but delivers, "here's what we think you really meant".

Well 'fuck you Google' ...,
As a surfer I know exactly what I typed into the search bar, and that's exactly the results I want.
If I search for a typo then maybe that's exactly what I want, the fucking typo! Early on Google got to be top dog by delivering what surfers wanted, what surfers expected.

If I search for alunimum that's exactly the results I want.
I don't care about aluminum. If I did that's what I would have searched for Sergey.

It's all about the advertising $$$, it has nothing to do with the surfer's needs or desires. Google could not care less. That's why promoters are literally forced to use underhanded (BH) tactics. We don't really want to but have been forced into it.

They (G) publicly chastise "designed for adsense" sites but deep down they fucking love it. What a cash cow that has become. Can you say kazillion?

I use AdWords and AdSense both and over the years it's become a very slippery slope. Not talking about arbitrage here, but about being an advertiser on one hand, and a publisher on the other. I pity new people entering either program. Both have become a full time juggling act.

Winner? Google
Loser? Surfer

Website owners/webmasters fall somewhere between.
Just a big rat race.
Some days we win, some days the rats win, every day Google wins.

~

roganoli 03-12-2011 09:32 PM

Great resource... congratulations for Google! It only cares about who is manipulating results or putting shit on the web, porn or not ...

Jakez 03-12-2011 11:15 PM

Don't they already monitor how long a person visits a site after clicking from the results? Wouldn't that tell whether or not the site provided the material the surfer was after?

DWB 03-12-2011 11:20 PM

As a surfer I think this is great news. I'd like to be able to search for things without all your porn sites showing up.

Robbie 03-12-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 17975648)
In the mid-to-late 80s Google (in their infancy) delivered what surfers wanted.

The mid to late 1980's???

WTF?!?!?!

The google.com domain wasn't even registered until 1997 and didn't become a force until a few years later.

cykoe6 03-13-2011 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17975346)
Regardless, it might lead to less traffic if a lot of your site or blog's materials are generic content, duplicate-looking content, etc. I see this development favoring a move toward "authority" type content.


This is good news for me as my relevant sites will stop being crowded out by spam crap. :thumbsup

alias 03-13-2011 04:18 AM

Beware of false blocking.

tiger 03-13-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 17975648)
The "whole new can of worms" issue is earning your way to the top of the SERPs because you deserve it, or, blackhatting your way there. If surfers block it it's probably because it did not deliver their search term results as expected. I love the Bing TV commercials airing in the US, they describe Google SERPs to a T.

In the mid-to-late 80s Google (in their infancy) delivered what surfers wanted.
They earned their way to the top. Now however they are a sell-out at best.
Now? not so much. Most often? not at all, not even close.

F U C K _ G O O G L E !

Mid/late 80's???, LOL, no worries you are only off by a decade.

CurrentlySober 03-13-2011 01:44 PM

Blocks pulled !

$5 submissions 03-13-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17976018)
Beware of false blocking.

If it becomes socialized, the results will go to shit since huge bot armies with thousands of IPs would try to game the system. Unless google finds a way around this. Reputation system? Even then, there might be a mad dash to buy off those wih higher rep settings. Quite a tough situation to be in. Definitely needs a bulletproof fix.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-13-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17976704)
If it becomes socialized, the results will go to shit since huge bot armies with thousands of IPs would try to game the system. Unless google finds a way around this. Reputation system? Even then, there might be a mad dash to buy off those wih higher rep settings. Quite a tough situation to be in. Definitely needs a bulletproof fix.

The bulletproof fix is simple. Don't give it any weight in the algorithm. Will Google do that? that's debatable.

DangerX !!! 03-13-2011 02:24 PM

I have some wicked idea... :pimp

DangerX !!! 03-13-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17975675)
1. byebye experts-advice or whatever it's called.
2. If Google wants to improve the quality of their results, the only thing they have to do is stop pretending they know better than the surfer.

After having spent years and years online I have a pretty good idea of how to use a search engine... I know what the look for, how to look for something, how to exclude certain words... However, Google knows better. Google knows that it is better to include half of what i wanted to exclude. Google knows it is better to include a couple of synonyms of what I wanted to exclude. If there's a difference between a certain word and that same word with an 's' appended to it and I deliberately search for the first word, Google knows it's better to include the word with an 's' appended to it because according to Google that word might be the plural.... even if it's not..... *sigh*

Yeah, it wasn't that way in the past ..but now G:):)gle does more and more in this dirty way, it also protects itself from unwanted searches censoring stuff like for example: how to remove G:):)le search from a browser toolbar etc., examples are countless... I can bet this thread will not be included in the G:):)gles search results as well (or at least not for long). G:):)gle knows better, G:):)gle tracks all user activities and keeps this data forever with a silly excuse it's just for an improvement and testings... :1orglaugh and all the stuff is backed up on tapes just in case... :1orglaugh Unfortunately, sheep don't know about it and they even believe in privacy. :1orglaugh
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