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Redrob 03-02-2011 11:12 AM

Chemicals Used in "Spice" and "K2" Type Products Now Under Federal Control
 
Chemicals Used in "Spice" and "K2" Type Products Now Under Federal Control and Regulation.
DEA Will Study Whether To Permanently Control Five Substances


MAR 01 - WASHINGTON, D.C. ? The United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) today exercised its emergency scheduling authority to control five chemicals (JWH-018, JWH-073, JWH-200, CP-47,497, and cannabicyclohexanol) used to make so-called ?fake pot? products. Except as authorized by law, this action makes possessing and selling these chemicals or the products that contain them illegal in the United States. This emergency action was necessary to prevent an imminent threat to public health and safety. The temporary scheduling action will remain in effect for at least one year while the DEA and the United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) further study whether these chemicals should be permanently controlled.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/index.htm

No Fear, Just Knowledge.:thumbsup

TangibleAsset 03-02-2011 11:26 AM

I remember when this shit first came out there was a guy who was a chem major at Cal Poly that was making JWH in bulk and selling it for dirt cheap. I bought a couple grams out of curiosity to see how it compared to real bud. A couple months went by and he got hired by some big company making mass amounts of it in a warehouse in Florida. :thumbsup

candyflip 03-02-2011 12:50 PM

I'd rather smoke the real shit anyhow. I got a little of this and the high was sooo intense I didn't enjoy it and just wanted it to end.

Agent 488 03-02-2011 12:59 PM

people who sit on their computers all day forget about the huge numbers of people who have to take drug tests for day jobs, can't risk anything illegal, or due to the high levels of incarceration in the US the large amount of people on probation.

there is a big market for this shit.

you want to see ratios like 99 ...?

alias 03-02-2011 01:11 PM

Probably for the best, stick to cannabis.

Agent 488 03-02-2011 01:16 PM

here is a k2 affiliate program that actually pays and converting 1:15

alias 03-02-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17951040)
here is a k2 affiliate program that actually pays and converting 1:15

Isn't that illegal in the us as of today though?

candyflip 03-02-2011 01:39 PM

Thanks for that Agent. I can probably make a few bucks with that no problem.

BestXXXPorn 03-02-2011 01:50 PM

OK so... there have been no deaths caused by this substance... personally I'd rather smoke the stuff that grows naturally (with some good genetic breeding mind you)...

But under what authority do they make this stuff illegal? Because people use it to get high? Is that the only reason? I'm asking because I have no idea...

Puremeds-J 03-02-2011 01:51 PM

keep it all natural

BestXXXPorn 03-02-2011 01:52 PM

"Since 2009, DEA has received an increasing number of reports from poison control centers, hospitals and law enforcement regarding these products. At least 16 states have already taken action to control one or more of these chemicals. The Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 amends the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) to allow the DEA Administrator to place a substance temporarily in schedule I when it is necessary to avoid an imminent threat to the public safety. Emergency room physicians report that individuals that use these types of products experience serious side effects which include: convulsions, anxiety attacks, dangerously elevated heart rates, increased blood pressure, vomiting, and disorientation."

To answer my own question...

Regardless they don't list any numbers at ALL... It could be 10 complaints, 15, 100? How many is too many?

And how many people go to the emergency room because of alcohol poisoning anyway?

candyflip 03-02-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17951116)
OK so... there have been no deaths caused by this substance... personally I'd rather smoke the stuff that grows naturally (with some good genetic breeding mind you)...

But under what authority do they make this stuff illegal? Because people use it to get high? Is that the only reason? I'm asking because I have no idea...

I think I remember reading somewhere that a few people have died...but who can really say for sure.

It's intense. It's nothing like smoking buds...even the most potent.

I'm a daily smoker and this shit was just too much for me. Once I was able to get off the couch, I went the threw what was left in the garbage.

We've got a hookah shop in town where they sell it and have bongs set up for you to smoke it out of. They're open 24/7 and the place is always hoppin'.

amateurbfs 03-02-2011 02:11 PM

How is this stuff illegal and salvia is not is what I wonder.

Agent 488 03-02-2011 02:14 PM

the state likes to control our minds so we don't become tiger-blooded warlocks from mars.

most k2 companies have altered their formulas to stay legal anyway.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-02-2011 02:33 PM

This day was obviously coming, which is why I choose not to promote when I had the chance. I have a fair bit of marijuana and drug related traffic, and I didn't even bother putting up links when people emailed me to see if I was interested. I honestly expected this to go down a long time ago now. I suppose I could have probably pulled some money out of it while I had the chance, but meh. I know some people were doing amazing well though, and know a guy who was just setting up his own program for it a couple months back. Hope he didn't invest too heavily...

Redrob 03-02-2011 05:02 PM

Bump for evening.

TangibleAsset 03-03-2011 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17951138)
I think I remember reading somewhere that a few people have died...but who can really say for sure.

It's intense. It's nothing like smoking buds...even the most potent.

I'm a daily smoker and this shit was just too much for me. Once I was able to get off the couch, I went the threw what was left in the garbage.

We've got a hookah shop in town where they sell it and have bongs set up for you to smoke it out of. They're open 24/7 and the place is always hoppin'.

It's all about the dosage. I live in Cali and have been a heavy smoker for the past few years, especially since I got my medical card. It literally takes the dab of a ballpoint pen to get extremely stoned off JWH.. Granted I never had it the spice blends I had it in powder form. I had JWH-018 which reminded me of a heavy sativa stone like hash or something. JWH-073 is supposed to be like an indica and I'm not sure about the 250.

Redrob 03-03-2011 01:49 PM

Bump for afternoon.


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