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Machete_ 02-22-2011 08:57 AM

Obamas plan for solving the budget deficit: sell US citizenship for $500k a pop
 
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The city of Dallas, through its City of Dallas Regional Center and United States Citizenship and Immigration Services EB-5 program, sells permanent residence green cards to individual foreign ?investors? and their families.

For the low, low price of $500,000, someone from most anywhere else can purchase the right to call himself or herself a U.S. resident, presumably foregoing the usual naturalization and citizenship process. The investment buys the investor, spouse, and unmarried children younger than 21 each a green card.

The city takes the money, funnels it into the CDRC EB-5 program, and creates 10 jobs per investment ? somehow, somewhere, in some business.

According to city information, 43 people paid their way into the queue and could receive green cards by March 31, undoubtedly after intensive background and security checks.

The investors, according to the city, hail from Mexico, China, and Nigeria, and the city probably got shorted there because most of us receive Nigerian offers for way more than a half-million dollar
:1orglaugh

Sly 02-22-2011 08:59 AM

I think most countries do this.

Puremeds-J 02-22-2011 08:59 AM

Can I get an affiliate link?

Agent 488 02-22-2011 09:01 AM

seen plenty of ads over the years advertising for wealthy immigrants. don't think this is new.

Archivist 02-22-2011 09:01 AM

Buying citizenship is not a bad idea. Renting it would be even better. Say some slob shows up and pays $1000 a year to reside in the US. Or you can pay $500k and come and go as you please. I think this is an awesome fucking idea.

NickB. 02-22-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Puremeds-J (Post 17933147)
Can I get an affiliate link?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

candyflip 02-22-2011 09:05 AM

Sounds better than giving it away to the poor for free.

Relentless 02-22-2011 09:08 AM

Right, its a much better idea to educate foreign students and help them get doctoral degrees in our country before we force them to leave and take their 'worthless brains and education' back to their country of origin to build our competition...

Bloomberg has the right idea. Every graduate of a US graduate school should be given a 10 year work visa. It would definitely help our nation overcome the brain drain it currently faces. Exporting marketable education is a horrible long term economic decision.

spazlabz 02-22-2011 09:09 AM

500 grand!?!?!
SHE-IT! I'll sell mine for that wad!

sologirlcontent 02-22-2011 09:12 AM

man that's shit's been going on waaaaay before OBAMA.. My wife is a German citizen and knew that years ago.. Anybody has been able to BUY into the US...why not?

greg80 02-22-2011 09:17 AM

I don't see any problem with that. If someone is rich and wants to live and spend money in US, why not?

blackmonsters 02-22-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Puremeds-J (Post 17933147)
Can I get an affiliate link?

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

They can crawl under the fence for free or they can pay me.
I'll take it.

Vendzilla 02-22-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Archivist (Post 17933155)
Buying citizenship is not a bad idea. Renting it would be even better. Say some slob shows up and pays $1000 a year to reside in the US. Or you can pay $500k and come and go as you please. I think this is an awesome fucking idea.

Instead of the $1000 a year in rent, they could pay taxes!

David! 02-22-2011 09:28 AM

In Orlando, they turned some empty time share building into "investment/jobs" properties that you can buy for $500k, and with the high maintenance fees you pay, you somewhat satisfy the 10 jobs rule.

Machete_ 02-22-2011 09:36 AM

All current American Citizens should lose their citizenship and be required to ransom it back to reduce the debt.

TCLGirls 02-22-2011 10:44 AM

The story says that 500K buys US Permanent Residency status...not Citizenship status. Those are two very different things.

Furthermore, how is this "Obama's plan"? This program has existed since 1992!!

http://www.eb5greencard.com/

F-U-Jimmy 02-22-2011 10:52 AM

Once you are a permanent resident you can apply for citizenship if you want to

TCLGirls 02-22-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 17933390)
Once you are a permanent resident you can apply for citizenship if you want to

Yeah that's true, but in order for that to happen, it takes 2 years and the EB5 permanent resident needs to prove the business/investment is still operational and that at least 10 new jobs were created (not including fellow family members).

I'd say that's good for America.

Deputy Chief Command 02-22-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sologirlcontent (Post 17933189)
man that's shit's been going on waaaaay before OBAMA.. My wife is a German citizen and knew that years ago.. Anybody has been able to BUY into the US...why not?

hmm ... in the past you could invest large sums of money ( not exact sure how much ) that would create jobs in the US .. and the investment would be yours still .. so in the end if you invested wisely you could actually still make money of it

but this deal if explained correctly seems different .. . you actually lose your entire 500K to the gov who then invests it to create jobs ??

Wizzo 02-22-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17933371)

Furthermore, how is this "Obama's plan"? This program has existed since 1992!!

He was the secret puppetmaster then...:winkwink:

blackmonsters 02-22-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17933424)
He was the secret puppetmaster then...:winkwink:

:1orglaugh

Of course.

All the fake Obama Drama going on is only making it impossible for people
like me to know if there is a legitimate gripe.

Any legitimate gripe about Obama gets lost in a pile of this type bullshit.

The more they gripe the more I'm for Obama because all the gripes turn out to be bullshit.

fuzebox 02-22-2011 11:35 AM

We were looking into this with an immigration lawyer a couple of weeks ago... Theoretically it's an investment into a distressed area, and you are supposed to get the principal back with interest in a few years.

JP-pornshooter 02-22-2011 12:28 PM

its a great plan to bring talent money and jobs to the good ole USA.

wonder if it could be used in this industry?
i am sure we can find 10 cash strapped ho's interested in making some greenback.

tiger 02-22-2011 12:32 PM

I could be wrong but I think it's been like this for quite a long time. Most countries have something like this as well. I don't really see why it would be a bad thing. I'm sure you would get a few bad apples but there should be an easy way to sort them out.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

seeandsee 02-22-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17933146)
I think most countries do this.

Montenegro sells at the same way :)

Wilsy 02-22-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17933605)

Money talks, bullshit walks.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TdofRgsCoG...1600/kljhh.jpg

ertiope 02-22-2011 12:39 PM

$1M invested into a US biz has (including your own), for the past 20 years, gotten you a US citizenship.. so how htf is this news?

IllTestYourGirls 02-22-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 17933179)
Right, its a much better idea to educate foreign students and help them get doctoral degrees in our country before we force them to leave and take their 'worthless brains and education' back to their country of origin to build our competition...

Bloomberg has the right idea. Every graduate of a US graduate school should be given a 10 year work visa. It would definitely help our nation overcome the brain drain it currently faces. Exporting marketable education is a horrible long term economic decision.

Although it may sound like a good idea but this would just make more Americans dependent on welfare. There are not enough jobs.

Paul Markham 02-22-2011 12:46 PM

Any country that doesn't sell Permanent Residency status for $500K deserves to sink into the mire.

People who make that much money generate even more for others.

With some thinking it's a bad idea you really have to think if they have a clue.

czarina 02-22-2011 12:50 PM

"undoubtedly after intensive background and security checks"


hahahahaha, now that really made me laugh

Serge Litehead 02-22-2011 12:56 PM

just shows how things are changing
for years i think it used to be just having $1M and over in bank account with proof of its legitimacy would let you have Permanent Residency status in US.

TheDoc 02-22-2011 01:12 PM

It was the same b.s. for me to go into Canada with a residence card... but half the amount of money.

Archivist 02-22-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 17933484)
We were looking into this with an immigration lawyer a couple of weeks ago... Theoretically it's an investment into a distressed area, and you are supposed to get the principal back with interest in a few years.

Can you just put the money into the US bank for 2 years or something, without having to invest in some bullshit biz?

NALEM 02-22-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sologirlcontent (Post 17933189)
man that's shit's been going on waaaaay before OBAMA.. My wife is a German citizen and knew that years ago.. Anybody has been able to BUY into the US...why not?

Machete, Sologirlcontent is correct. The investor visa program has been available for a very long time. And ... I rather have someone with that kind of $$$ to come in here, as they are less likely to use public benefit/welfare resources.

TCLGirls 02-22-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Archivist (Post 17933751)
Can you just put the money into the US bank for 2 years or something, without having to invest in some bullshit biz?

No that won't work.

Part of the program is that the investment has to directly create at least 10 jobs.

cooldude7 02-22-2011 05:19 PM

i m going to america.


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