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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-18-2011 07:56 PM

Another Adult Tube Lawsuit - EmpFlix and TnAFlix Sued by Private Media Group
 
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CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa ? Private Media Group filed suit Thursday at US District Court in Cedar Rapids against two of the largest porn tube sites ? EmpFlix.com and TnAFlix.com ? claiming its operator is illegally streaming 75 of its videos.

According to a story reported on www.xbiz.com, YoungTek Solutions Ltd., which owns the pair of tube sites named in the suit, is a Cyprus-based company that also was sued last year by adult company Corbin Fisher, which claims 104 videos were been poached for TnAflix.com. Earlier this month, the Corbin Fisher suit was settled and the complaint was dismissed.

Private's copyright suit names as defendants YoungTek and 100 John Does, as well as 100 John Doe companies, presumably YoungTek's business partners or advertisers. It seeks $150,000 for each alleged infringement, as well as an injunction among other forms of relief.

Private says that the tube sites are powerhouses in the biz, with EmpFlix.com attracting 1.5 million surfers a day and TnAflix.com attracting 3 million, and that YoungTek generates "annual revenue estimated in tens of millions of dollars."
Seems to be a growing trend...

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Si 02-18-2011 08:07 PM

Interesting!

Paul Markham 02-19-2011 03:30 AM

A bump for good news.

SGS 02-19-2011 03:38 AM

Interesting. Private have a very big war chest once they get started.

tonyparra 02-19-2011 03:38 AM

yeah tnaflix is my favorite tube site to watch your content for free

{Psycho} 02-19-2011 03:47 AM

Great new :)

Caligari 02-19-2011 05:28 AM

No way man, we all know they can't touch the tubes;)

Don't show this to Agent488 etc, they'll tell you you're delusional.

But then again, reality isn't what it used to be:1orglaugh

adapt or die;)

Klen 02-19-2011 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17926174)
No way man, we all know they can't touch the tubes;)

Don't show this to Agent488 etc, they'll tell you you're delusional.

But then again, reality isn't what it used to be:1orglaugh

adapt or die;)

Speaking about adapting or die,i see more and more long video tube sites shut down or changing site style due to lack in profit.As i said before,it doesn't matter what kind of site you have,it is matter what is your traffic source.

Barry-xlovecam 02-19-2011 06:36 AM

Filing a lawsuit in US Federal District Court?

"According to a story reported on www.xbiz.com, YoungTek Solutions Ltd., which owns the pair of tube sites named in the suit, is a Cyprus-based company..."

They are incorporated in Cyprus and using a Dutch host ...
inetnum: 77.247.179.128 - 77.247.179.191
netname: Youngtek_Solutions_Limited
descr: Customer 323 / Bouncetek
descr: Customer 536 / Youngtek Solutions Limited
remarks: Sent abuse to [email protected]
country: NL
admin-c: pt3315-ripe
tech-c: pt3315-ripe
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: MNT-NFORCE
mnt-lower: MNT-NFORCE
mnt-routes: MNT-NFORCE
source: RIPE # Filtered

Barefootsies 02-19-2011 06:42 AM

Before you rejoice champ, you may want to pick up a copy of XBIZ, for almost any month in the past 18 months. It seems that every month's issue there is a new one of these filed lawsuits or claims with some tube site.

Almost all of these lawsuits are settled, dropped, or dismissed and rare if ever go to court.

:2 cents:

Agent 488 02-19-2011 11:45 AM

in the end of the tubes. thank god. now i can put my head back in the sand.

Caligari 02-19-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17926215)
Speaking about adapting or die,i see more and more long video tube sites shut down or changing site style due to lack in profit.As i said before,it doesn't matter what kind of site you have,it is matter what is your traffic source.

yes the long play tube model will fail sooner than later. its more like the snake eating itself, there are only so many sources of traffic and viable products to sell on such sites.

saturation is already happening and these sites are rapidly losing more money than they are making.

add to that the mounting legal wars against the illegal tube sites and you have the perfect storm.

of course its always those with vested interest or those who simply have no ethics in business who bark here the hardest for illegal tubes, torrents etc. sad really.

WarChild 02-19-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17926822)
yes the long play tube model will fail sooner than later. its more like the snake eating itself, there are only so many sources of traffic and viable products to sell on such sites.

saturation is already happening and these sites are rapidly losing more money than they are making.

add to that the mounting legal wars against the illegal tube sites and you have the perfect storm.

of course its always those with vested interest or those who simply have no ethics in business who bark here the hardest for illegal tubes, torrents etc. sad really.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

I personally know more than one VERY large tube site owner. They aren't losing money, they're making money hand over fist. Here's the part that's really going to blow your mind though: The majority of the income is from selling memberships, not dating or cams.

This I KNOW to be true first hand. Feel free to continue believing what you think is the truth though.

V_RocKs 02-19-2011 02:51 PM

I fucked mommy!

mafia_man 02-19-2011 03:05 PM

Israeli citizen, Cypriot company, Dutch host.

Even if they win this will be a pain to enforce.

Certainly explains why the torrent sites came down last month though.

cooldude7 02-19-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 17927007)
Israeli citizen, Cypriot company, Dutch host.

Even if they win this will be a pain to enforce.

Certainly explains why the torrent sites came down last month though.

how can Israeli citizen start porn site, isnt porn banned there ?

mafia_man 02-20-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldude7 (Post 17927579)
how can Israeli citizen start porn site, isnt porn banned there ?

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Israel

In Israel, pornographic films began to be produced in the 1990s, but most of the films were shot in the 2000s.Technically pornography is illegal since British Mandate for Palestine, but in fact at least since 1990's every large city in Israel have several sex shops.
Porn is illegal in Thailand too but plenty of people still shoot there.

HandballJim 02-20-2011 09:59 PM

I wonder how much money it takes to win a lawsuit like this?

blackmonsters 02-20-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 17929547)
I wonder how much money it takes to win a lawsuit like this?

Nothing, if you have the right lawyer.

The only time I ever sued for anything the lawyer did it "pro-bono".
If a good lawyer sees that you have a strong case then they start counting
their own money and prefer a pro bono case because they keep 30% of
the settlement for their fees.

Example: you pay a lawyer $10k on a case and you win 100k settlement;
that lawyer is like "shit, lost 20k by not doing it pro-bono".

Also, if a lawyer knows that he is crappy then he will never take your case for
free because he knows he is going to lose anyway.

WarChild 02-20-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17929568)
Nothing, if you have the right lawyer.

The only time I ever sued for anything the lawyer did it "pro-bono".
If a good lawyer sees that you have a strong case then they start counting
their own money and prefer a pro bono case because they keep 30% of
the settlement for their fees.

Example: you pay a lawyer $10k on a case and you win 100k settlement;
that lawyer is like "shit, lost 20k by not doing it pro-bono".

Also, if a lawyer knows that he is crappy then he will never take your case for
free because he knows he is going to lose anyway.

You're all confused, as usual.

"Pro bono" is short for Pro bono publico. From the Latin meaning "For the good of the public". The current day use in law generally refers to legal service performed free of charge.

What you're actually talking about is a lawyer taking a case on a contingency. The result is they get a percentage of your winnings.

In the future, if you're going to play expert, try to at least have a basic understanding of what you're taking about. :2 cents:

DamianJ 02-21-2011 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17929578)
You're all confused, as usual.

"Pro bono" is short for Pro bono publico. From the Latin meaning "For the good of the public". The current day use in law generally refers to legal service performed free of charge.

What you're actually talking about is a lawyer taking a case on a contingency. The result is they get a percentage of your winnings.

In the future, if you're going to play expert, try to at least have a basic understanding of what you're taking about. :2 cents:

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=504&h=407

However, this is all moot. It won't go to court. They will settle. Betcha ten bucks.

Caligari 02-21-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17926958)
You really have no idea what you're talking about.

I personally know more than one VERY large tube site owner. They aren't losing money, they're making money hand over fist. Here's the part that's really going to blow your mind though: The majority of the income is from selling memberships, not dating or cams.

This I KNOW to be true first hand. Feel free to continue believing what you think is the truth though.

:1orglaugh right then you go ahead and keep doing your 1:5000 - 1:10000 ratio tubes along with your oh so profitable buddies.

i will continue with my a)legal promotions b)under 1:500 ratios across the board (except on cams) and c)using far less resources and money to deliver the results.

the reality is a VERY SMALL percentage of people will pay for memberships if they can get daily 10 minute clips for free. duh.

an absolute truth in business-
If you want your customer to buy the hot dog, let him smell it or at most take a small nibble, but for fuckssakes don't let him eat it.

With tubes you let him take a big bite and he'll just keep on eating the free samples until he's had his hot dog's worth. Then the 10,000th person may decide he wants to pay for another hot dog.

It's lame and inefficient, but by all means continue with them tubes:thumbsup

gideongallery 02-21-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17930287)
:1orglaugh right then you go ahead and keep doing your 1:5000 - 1:10000 ratio tubes along with your oh so profitable buddies.

i will continue with my a)legal promotions b)under 1:500 ratios across the board (except on cams) and c)using far less resources and money to deliver the results.

the reality is a VERY SMALL percentage of people will pay for memberships if they can get daily 10 minute clips for free. duh.

an absolute truth in business-
If you want your customer to buy the hot dog, let him smell it or at most take a small nibble, but for fuckssakes don't let him eat it.

With tubes you let him take a big bite and he'll just keep on eating the free samples until he's had his hot dog's worth. Then the 10,000th person may decide he wants to pay for another hot dog.

It's lame and inefficient, but by all means continue with them tubes:thumbsup

if you know what your doing you can AVERAGE 1:117

john FVC 02-21-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17925676)
Seems to be a growing trend...

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It will be if companies are seen to get a positive result from it.

Agent 488 02-21-2011 09:59 AM

if your ratios are so great and unaffected why so butthurt about tubes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17930287)
:1orglaugh right then you go ahead and keep doing your 1:5000 - 1:10000 ratio tubes along with your oh so profitable buddies.

i will continue with my a)legal promotions b)under 1:500 ratios across the board (except on cams) and c)using far less resources and money to deliver the results.

the reality is a VERY SMALL percentage of people will pay for memberships if they can get daily 10 minute clips for free. duh.

an absolute truth in business-
If you want your customer to buy the hot dog, let him smell it or at most take a small nibble, but for fuckssakes don't let him eat it.

With tubes you let him take a big bite and he'll just keep on eating the free samples until he's had his hot dog's worth. Then the 10,000th person may decide he wants to pay for another hot dog.

It's lame and inefficient, but by all means continue with them tubes:thumbsup


Caligari 02-21-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17930464)
if your ratios are so great and unaffected why so butthurt about tubes?

there you go with your reading comprehension problem again, did you not understand what i said?

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It's lame and inefficient, but by all means continue with them tubes
As I said people should dedicate their biz to the tube model.

And do some file sharing and torrent sites too while you're at it:thumbsup

Really, people are making tons of money pirating content, shouldn't you?

WarChild 02-21-2011 10:57 AM

I am doing 1:500 on memberships, with the complete blessing of the copyright owners. Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Caligari 02-21-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17930612)
I am doing 1:500 on memberships, with the complete blessing of the copyright owners. Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Then you have no idea what you're talking about cuz this thread is about illegal tubes genius.

WarChild 02-21-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17930634)
Then you have no idea what you're talking about cuz this thread is about illegal tubes genius.

Sigh. Okay you win. Tubes like YouJizz.com don't make any money selling memberhsips because they have big movies on them mixed in with the teasers. Thanks for setting me straight.


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