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borked 02-01-2011 03:15 PM

So, what do you want in a 21st century adult member app?
 
OK, So the Qs come out to fine tune something me and my associates have been working on for a while - was hoping to bring this question to you back in Jan, but a 1-month delay isn't bad....

The bottom line:

Lots of great apps out there to get your content out to the world, take in members etc and we're not at all trying to compete with that market. What we think we have found aniche in is a one-app-sells-all niche. And I need your feedback, as stupid as it may be...

What we have developed is thus:

a. 1 single admin, controlling all sites and content
b. unlimited sites.
c. choice of site type displaying that content (tube, membership, vod) - eg site X is a tube site, tube Y is a VoD site, all using admin-selected content for each site
d. All content is streamed fully protected. All downloaded content is injected with user-identifiable information.
e. The system is 100% modular - a real framework where the core is protected by encryption, but modules can be easily written to extend the core per your needs/growth - simply plug in your own code to /modules and you're away.
f. rudimentary affiliate tracking (to be developed further)
g. cam plugin support.
h. Easy templates to allow a mobile-enabled version of your site in 1-click
i. FULL content protected mobile phone support
j. xxxx your suggestions

This in just out of alpha and running fine on eg qtube tube site, where free member to paying-member retention is looking damn good (~1:100), cos it's forced to signup after 10 mins, then that free member gets another free 10 mins before being shown the join page options.... It works, but this is a FR-speaking niche.

It is also controlling (same app), the member site dvdhot.

The content is irrelevant here - what matters is the same content base manages a member site and a tube site - same content but managed differently, Yet same admin.

What is very unique on all this is content if it's streamed is un-rippable. If it's downloaded (an admin opt-in option), it's injected with user data for identification later, so if your content appears on the torrents, you know who seeded it. It's been over 4 monhts since I made my detailed post on how to do this, yet none of the big major players offer this, so it gets packaged into my own, with financial support from my associates.

Wowza license required and non-negotiable if you want this to work. Only Wowza Media have taken the step to allow so much custom access to their streaming server to make it un-hackable do they get the borked seal of approval. So Wowza is essential for this app. Tested to the max we have which is a 25mbs tube and the server is load 0.3.

WMV *not* supported.

User uploads for a tube-enabled site are not supported.

I'd love to here your suggestions on anything not covered here - nothing about billers since all billers will be supported by launch time as that is simple, and on how you thing about a 3rd party app (eg wowza) is essential, as about 3rd party codecs (wmv) not being supported.... These are not options for a content-protected delivery base.... I would like user input on ideas not presented here on how they could work with your work flow (admin has stats etc).

A 21st century delivery app is required to deal with the problems we are faced with - maybe others have others in the pipeline (I've not heard of them). This is a working alpha and coming out to the masses soon.

And I promise you, it is damn affordable.

borked 02-01-2011 03:20 PM

and as someone just kindly emailed me... the 21st century happened like 11 years ago....

uhm, that's my point!

DWB 02-01-2011 04:11 PM

First off, I can lay testament that Andy knows what he is doing in terms of streaming media and protection. He locked my videos down air tight and my NEW videos are not showing up anywhere. ANYWHERE. Users are simply not taking the time to use a screen recorder. I HIGHLY recommend him if you value your content.

Andy, everything you have listed sounds good. Looks like you gave it a lot of thought. Here are a few things I would suggest just to make it well rounded for everyone.

>>>>> Suggestions

* To be able to rotate content or time release it

* Trial period access. Can see all the content but can not view it. Can set up for 1 click upgrades to full membership.

* Geo-IP blocking (set up to work with maxmind). No need to have Africans and Chinese burning up your BW if you can't sell them anything.

* A video encoder to encode, cut videos, and create thumbs. I don't want it, but I know many would.

I'm sure I can think of more, but it's 6am and my brain is kaput. If I think if anything I'll list here or email you later.

Nice work Andy.

DWB 02-01-2011 04:14 PM

Oh yea... something in fucking English would be nice. ;-)

My members speak American god dammit.

Mutt 02-01-2011 04:34 PM

so it's like Mech Bunny but with protection against streaming video rippers?

what's 'cam plugin support' about?

borked 02-01-2011 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17884834)

* To be able to rotate content or time release it

that's already in there.

Quote:

* Trial period access. Can see all the content but can not view it. Can set up for 1 click upgrades to full membership.
Support for that is already in, but in a different way - admin option to allow free signups (ie harvest emails), then select what those types of members can see. ie give 10 mins free streaming or nothing at all. eg the qtube eg gives something like this - all surfers can only stream 10 mins of video before being prompted to signup for free. This gives them another 10 mins for free (once expired, signing up again for free doesn't give them yet another 10 mins!). Once expired they get the payment options - ?1 1-day trial (limited to 2h of streaming), 2? audiotel code type membership - 2h of streaming. ?15 membership (unlimited streaming) etc. One click trial->full is in there (in that example, the trial->full rebills at a different price point. So in short, all different flavours of membership are handled.

However, this is only for one biller atm

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* Geo-IP blocking (set up to work with maxmind). No need to have Africans and Chinese burning up your BW if you can't sell them anything.

* A video encoder to encode, cut videos, and create thumbs. I don't want it, but I know many would.
consider it done chief (only maxmind apache or php module will be supported cos the pure PHP and the pear class are too slow for anything high-traffic.

Quote:

Oh yea... something in fucking English would be nice. ;-)

My members speak American god dammit.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh nope, this will force your members to learn foreign languages!


Thanks for the feedback :thumbsup

borked 02-01-2011 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17884876)
so it's like Mech Bunny but with protection against streaming video rippers?

what's 'cam plugin support' about?

well, yes and no - if you mean the mechbunny script can handle tube sites as a member site, then yes.

No, meaning everything is under one roof - all your diffferent sites (member area, tube sites w/ member signup, free tube sites, etc) live in one place - you set apache to the same path for document root. Then it's in the templates directory where you simply duplicate a template set and customise it for your new site. Set in the admin what content set that site will use, what type of site it is (tube, member etc) and then "take online" and it's live.

You add a new module, your own creation eg pre-roll, end-roll ads for free tube sites? once you add it to the modules section, it will then appear in the admin which you can activate for site X and Y only. Custom coding for this has never been easier.

All content management scripts do the same thing - no need to pick out mechbunny as an example. It's how they do them is what bugs me and where this one tries to rectify. A modular nature is what it's all about.

borked 02-02-2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17884876)
what's 'cam plugin support' about?

huh? Well, rather than delivering up movies as content, you deliver up cam streams... if you have a cam stream pointing at your server (or multicast), you can deliver that in a secure, unrippable stream...

DWB 02-02-2011 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 17885559)
huh? Well, rather than delivering up movies as content, you deliver up cam streams... if you have a cam stream pointing at your server (or multicast), you can deliver that in a secure, unrippable stream...

That's pretty sweet.

Mutt 02-02-2011 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 17885559)
huh? Well, rather than delivering up movies as content, you deliver up cam streams... if you have a cam stream pointing at your server (or multicast), you can deliver that in a secure, unrippable stream...

i thought maybe you were going in the direction of adding on a cam site add-on similar to myfreecams

weird this thread has so few replies - needed a better title, it reads as if you're just asking for suggestions rather than debuting a new CMS solution.

DWB 02-02-2011 12:42 PM

Bump for Andy.

borked 02-02-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17885782)
i thought maybe you were going in the direction of adding on a cam site add-on similar to myfreecams

Am I missing something here that could be a valuable add on? All I meant by that was to one person, content is mp4s, to another it's UDP streams... I'm not in the content delivery biz at all, but myfreecams seems something well free and dodgy (ok have a giggle at my naivety if you want!). What is in development is a tried and tested secure way of content delivery. Downloads are not secure and so have tracers in them for those wishing to go the legal route.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17885782)
weird this thread has so few replies - needed a better title, it reads as if you're just asking for suggestions rather than debuting a new CMS solution.

No no, I prefer it to stay low key - I've already had 5 great contacts with feedback that have helped me get a better handle on the needs of the masses (hehe, 5 speak for the masses). Most bases are covered, but just wanting fresh ideas before the admin gets built (always the pain!).

DWB -Sticky content is going in :thumbsup
Smelly - Niching is going in :thumbsup
A(c?)hmed - Tagging is going in :thumbsup

Bring it all on


---edit - sorry mutt, yes it is in development so to speak. It's out there and working so it is a working product, but the packaging it up into a marketable package isn't, which is why I'm asking for ideas before creating the admin to package it all up. Writing a module for this thing is so easy, so get it all in there from the start - the admin is the crux.


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