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EVERESS 01-30-2011 11:28 PM

SEO HOSTING - is it a SCAM?
 
Tell us what you think of SEO Hosting in this poll.

Fat Panda 01-30-2011 11:30 PM

wheres the poll ?

mgtarheels 01-30-2011 11:32 PM

The majority of SEO hosting? Yep. It goes a lot deeper than that.

Harmon 01-30-2011 11:32 PM

This poll sucks

Agent 488 01-30-2011 11:32 PM

poll fail.

EVERESS 01-30-2011 11:34 PM

It must have posted the message immediately because I took a bit of time to adjust the options.

mgtarheels 01-30-2011 11:35 PM

SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

EVERESS 01-30-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17880052)
SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

Then enlighten us as your time permits.

Agent 488 01-30-2011 11:37 PM

what's "Markenting"? don't understand your poll.

EVERESS 01-30-2011 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17880056)
what's "Markenting"? don't understand your poll.

Aaaa.. Shit... cant adjust poll now... You Know what I'm Saying.

WiredGuy 01-30-2011 11:41 PM

Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value, a lot of seo hosts will market it as a needed service but most of the time its not. Not to mention most (regular) hosts will give you different C-block IP's if you ask nicely for the same rate.

EVERESS 01-31-2011 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 17880065)
Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value

I'd say it had value in the past... but now has no value. Just like Google Progressed through keywords in the domain... at one point it was helpful... but now has been devalued.

nico-t 01-31-2011 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 17880065)
Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value, a lot of seo hosts will market it as a needed service but most of the time its not. Not to mention most (regular) hosts will give you different C-block IP's if you ask nicely for the same rate.

true........

Babaganoosh 01-31-2011 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17880052)
SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

"cut and dried"

Barefootsies 01-31-2011 05:34 AM

SEO hosting is like anything else. You have to know what you are doing.

I would hazard a guess that most do not know how to set it up right from the get go to maximize the value in the first place, and 90% claiming it doesn't work, have actually never bothered to do it.

I personally enjoy those who are/not webmasters citing some other complete stranger on the internet saying that it doesn't work. While those who actually have spent the time to do it, and set it up correctly, can cite from EXPERIENCE that it does in fact work.

Additionally, I would bet most hosts that are against it can't offer it. They also will go on a rant about how it's a waste of resources and na na na when web hosting in general is an endless waste of resources. Most people do not need high end boxes or bandwidth based on NEED. They buy on PRICE.

:2 cents:

Relentless 01-31-2011 06:22 AM

There is no money in SEO. It's all a scam.
Please move along ;)

brassmonkey 01-31-2011 06:31 AM

if you don't know what your doing it has no value. :2 cents: just like anything do your research before jumping in. if you don't you lose money.

DamianJ 01-31-2011 06:36 AM

Here's an idea.

Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut.

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do *research* that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms.

It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

Barefootsies 01-31-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17880472)
In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Or you can look at the fact that large web hosting companies, like Hostgator, offer it.

Hmmm... so a hosting company, which much bigger than most of those in adult space, is offering a product that is a "complete waste of time", snake oil, etc.. Got it.
:winkwink:

Emil 01-31-2011 06:42 AM

SEO Hosting?

For me it would be a host with plenty of IPs that isn't closely related, what else could they provide that would have something to do with SEO?

EVERESS 01-31-2011 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17880472)
Here's an idea.

Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut.

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do *research* that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms.

It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

I totally agree... But even if legit case studies were posted in an environment like here there would be constant debate... A lot of childish trash talking with no points... And Counter articles written by the so called "Trusted" board members here some of which are selling the involved products.

EVERESS 01-31-2011 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17880472)

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots

This is exactly what some do here... They respond to there opponents with 1 sentence statements that have no point. They call them stupid morons etc... and the best one is "its good for those who know how to use it" ... without going into the slightest detail. That again just implies that people are ignorant... Stupid... Etc.

Barefootsies 01-31-2011 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVERESS (Post 17880500)
I totally agree... But even if legit case studies were posted in an environment like here there would be constant debate... A lot of childish trash talking with no points... And Counter articles written by the so called "Trusted" board members here some of which are selling the involved products.

You can always go do it yourself. Just make sure you set it up properly.
:winkwink:

u-Bob 01-31-2011 07:25 AM

I currently use 14 different hosting companies because of seo related reasons. However, I stay far away from most companies that offer so called 'seo hosting' because their services offer no advantage over the way I'm already doing things and because most of the time they have no clue what they are doing and in some cases the way they have things set up could actually help Google identify your network.

Agent 488 01-31-2011 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVERESS (Post 17880149)
I'd say it had value in the past... but now has no value. Just like Google Progressed through keywords in the domain... at one point it was helpful... but now has been devalued.

at what point was that?

HomerSimpson 01-31-2011 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17880604)
I currently use 14 different hosting companies because of seo related reasons. However, I stay far away from most companies that offer so called 'seo hosting' because their services offer no advantage over the way I'm already doing things and because most of the time they have no clue what they are doing and in some cases the way they have things set up could actually help Google identify your network.

good point...

baddog 01-31-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17880472)
Here's an idea.

Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut.

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do *research* that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms.

It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

They have been done. :2 cents:

EVERESS 01-31-2011 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17880916)
at what point was that?

It had value in the past but not now. ( moving down to your 1 sentence replies here... Oops that's 2 )


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