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epagos 01-26-2011 11:27 AM

facebookofsex.com - trademark wft?!
 
How can a site like http://facebookofsex.com be online?

IMHO they are violating a facebook's trade mark name and color scheme.

How they made it? any idea?

Mark.

Roald 01-26-2011 11:29 AM

luck?

....

Nicky 01-26-2011 11:31 AM

They have been on for quite some time. Facebook doesn't seem to care.

Nicky 01-26-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17870825)
luck?

....

Yo Roald, do you guys still take celeb submissions?

MetaMan 01-26-2011 11:34 AM

Why dont you worry about your own business instead of how other people do it?

Either take the risk or not. What others or how they do it does't mean shit. You either have the balls to push something and take the risk or not. By asking the questions you do not have the balls.

Roald 01-26-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17870837)
Yo Roald, do you guys still take celeb submissions?

no idea, I'm not reviewing links thank god!! :D

Drop me an email ;)))

amateurbfs 01-26-2011 11:37 AM

Welcome to the internet!

epagos 01-26-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17870841)
Why dont you worry about your own business instead of how other people do it?

Either take the risk or not. What others or how they do it does't mean shit. You either have the balls to push something and take the risk or not. By asking the questions you do not have the balls.

I don't want to promote a site and have a legal after. So I ask before.

:321GFY

Nicky 01-26-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17870842)
no idea, I'm not reviewing links thank god!! :D

Drop me an email ;)))

The "oil dude" job is being too good on ya. You should make up for It by reviewing links 5 hours a day :winkwink:

MetaMan 01-26-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epagos (Post 17870854)
I don't want to promote a site and have a legal after. So I ask before.

:321GFY

Have a legal what? You clearly do not have the balls to make money. Who is going to "legal" you after? you are a tadpole in a lake.

who are you asking? why dont you call up facebooks legal team and leave a message.

_Richard_ 01-26-2011 11:55 AM

you haven't noticed how basically everyone is using facebook names/logos with no word about it?

lazycash 01-26-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17870833)
They have been on for quite some time. Facebook doesn't seem to care.

I don't believe FB doesn't care, I think something will be happening soon.

CaptainHowdy 01-26-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epagos (Post 17870820)
How can a site like http://facebookofsex.com be online?

IMHO they are violating a facebook's trade mark name and color scheme.

Why do you mind??

Quote:

How they made it? any idea?

Mark.
Ah, now I see...

baddog 01-26-2011 12:24 PM

Actually, I would lean towards the "don't care" side. I talked to some FB people a few years ago at a trade show about sites that had facebook in the name. Their attitude was pretty much like the Dairy Council and the whole Got Milk, Beer, Buddy, web host deal.

The name makes people think of Facebook, so it is still advertising to them.

and 34,753,396 Members!?

Yeah.

BlackCrayon 01-26-2011 12:28 PM

they roll the dice, can make bank in the meantime. since when does the adult industry care about any laws at all?

epagos 01-26-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17870865)
Have a legal what? You clearly do not have the balls to make money. Who is going to "legal" you after? you are a tadpole in a lake.

who are you asking? why dont you call up facebooks legal team and leave a message.

I don't need to have balls to make money. I need a good product and traffic.

I'm just asking how can it be legal. I don't want problems using their name on my sites.
that's all.

BTW, why are you so aggressive? it's funny how easy is to act like a macho for someone with over 26k post from your mother's basement. I can imagine how big your ass is.

Mark.

Domain Diva 01-26-2011 12:31 PM

I have been asked this question many times when I have in the past sold domains with ipad...apple....twitter etc contain within them.

The answer is that not all trademark holders pursue legal action at every chance they get ...as long as its not directly affecting thier business.

2 Examples ;

Apple do not ususally give you a problem unless you start advertising simlar products but the BBC (UK broadcaster) hunts everyone down trying to use BBC in domains and will track you down quick and take legal action instantly.

The above is not legal advice..if unsure always consult your lawyer.


ps ..A nice facebook style popup/IM tool you may wish to use to promote this program is www.ChatPopBox.com

baddog 01-26-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Diva (Post 17870983)
I have been asked this question many times when I have in the past sold domains with ipad...apple....twitter etc contain within them.

The answer is that not all trademark holders pursue legal action at every chance they get ...as long as its not directly affecting thier business.

I am relatively confident that Apple is a lot more aggressive about protecting their intellectual properties than is FB.

No way would I encourage someone to purchase a domain with Apple or Ipad in the name.

fris 01-26-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17870833)
They have been on for quite some time. Facebook doesn't seem to care.

wonder why, and nextri's site they are going after.

that was the reason behind plugrush not paying anyway.

djroof 01-26-2011 01:52 PM

facebook dont care why us?

seeandsee 01-26-2011 01:59 PM

they pay them % ? :)

Mike Dutch 01-26-2011 02:07 PM

first they need to win some small cases so they got a stronger case against bigger sites later.

DateDoc 01-26-2011 02:10 PM

It is odd that they have not gone after it as they have and do go after domains - just ask the owners of faceporn.com or teachbook.com.

Domain Diva 01-26-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17871127)
I am relatively confident that Apple is a lot more aggressive about protecting their intellectual properties than is FB.

I have delt with Apples legal dept in the past so can only comment on my own past experience . ( this of course could change at any time)

I would also recommend that anyone dealing with domains that may contain "trademarks " to consult thier own legal advisor and take thier advice.

Regarding the domain "facebookofsex.com " I assume they have taken legal advice given to them and trade accordingly.

Jman 01-26-2011 02:22 PM

Cause they don't need to sue people to make money... and as mention to busy to build status to give a fuck.

baddog 01-26-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Diva (Post 17871349)
I have delt with Apples legal dept in the past so can only comment on my own past experience . ( this of course could change at any time)

me too . . . hence my comment.

Domain Diva 01-26-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17871381)
me too . . . hence my comment.

Very interesting ..have you ever lost a domain to Apple ? and if so did it promote anything simlar to what they produce ? I would be shocked if you did and it would make me change policy regarding them.

HomerSimpson 01-26-2011 03:21 PM

how come apple is not after appletwins.com ?

msp 01-26-2011 03:38 PM

I look around on FB's site, I don't see ANY of their logos have a TM or (r) marking, do they actually have a trademark?

Agent 488 01-26-2011 03:39 PM

faceporn was crushed as was multitude of other "face" sites.

NaughtyVisions 01-26-2011 04:10 PM

lamebook.com is also currently being sued by facebook...:2 cents:

baddog 01-26-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Diva (Post 17871397)
Very interesting ..have you ever lost a domain to Apple ? and if so did it promote anything simlar to what they produce ? I would be shocked if you did and it would make me change policy regarding them.

They were not contacting me regarding sites I owned . . . more about sites we hosted.

Lilit 01-26-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 17871649)
lamebook.com is also currently being sued by facebook...:2 cents:


Wow, I knew facebook was trying to trademark "face", but it's new to me that they have put their hands on "book" as well

closer 01-26-2011 04:19 PM

if they do not care, why should you?

will76 01-26-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epagos (Post 17870820)
How can a site like http://facebookofsex.com be online?

IMHO they are violating a facebook's trade mark name and color scheme.

How they made it? any idea?

Mark.

not sued yet

DVTimes 01-26-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson (Post 17871540)
how come apple is not after appletwins.com ?

becase the owner has no idea what he is doing, so no one has (except for us) ever heard of the site.

SpicyM 01-26-2011 04:32 PM

I was asking this question years ago, when I submitted movie galleries.

qwe 01-26-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17870841)
Why dont you worry about your own business instead of how other people do it?

Either take the risk or not. What others or how they do it does't mean shit. You either have the balls to push something and take the risk or not. By asking the questions you do not have the balls.

good advice... aff is not moms and pops shop, so i'm sure they know what they're doing and you are just waisting time asking why why why....

slavdogg 01-26-2011 05:39 PM

facebook has been pretty aggressive since day one of enforcing their TMs.
Former microsoft lawyers now work for FB

Exit-chat 01-26-2011 06:57 PM

i do know for a fact they are coming after all book or face names... I have a very close friend of mine that has a site in the UK that he has the trademark for his dating site and they are fighting him hard.. he has a great case to win but it is still going to cost him seven figures to fight it and he is doing just that...

They have been targeting sites that are in the news, large traffic or have a TM going.. i believe their was about 3,000 TM's that i heard they started with to target...

Lester Burnham 01-26-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 17871649)
lamebook.com is also currently being sued by facebook...:2 cents:

Actually, Lamebook sued Facebook (preemptively; filed a declaratory relief action).

And I think Lamebook will win....

Barry-xlovecam 01-26-2011 10:29 PM

I have always wondered why myself ...

Lester Burnham 01-26-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 17872290)
I have always wondered why myself ...

It is a bandwidth issue for Facebook, they can't go after everyone at the same time.

I know from personal experience, Facebook is quite aggressive. They even go after sites where Facebook's TM claims are weak (Facebook takes the approach, "capitulate or you'll die").

moeloubani 01-26-2011 10:45 PM

i imagine the cheapest thing for facebook to do would be just go through icann to get the websites taken down...youll see a rush of those i think before you see a rush of lawsuits unless the lawsuits are retaliatory if people think their sites were taken down without cause

NaughtyVisions 01-26-2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester Burnham (Post 17872265)
Actually, Lamebook sued Facebook (preemptively; filed a declaratory relief action).

And I think Lamebook will win....

I was just going by what their site shows:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6303/lamebook.jpg

Their donate page does say they made a "daring legal move," but they don't specifically say what it is.

Quote:

We really love running Lamebook. Aside from the laughs, it represents an opportunity to work on an incredibly fun project with our buddies that makes a lot of people happy and still allows us to make rent at the end of the month. So while we?re definitely not getting rich off of this, it still represents our livelihood. Beyond that, it represents a way for us and lots of fans to express ourselves and poke some fun at the world?s most popular social network.

Problem is, Facebook didn?t get the joke. They?ve decided to pick on the little guys: small business owners who seem to be no match for a multi-billion dollar behemoth. But this is one website that?s not going down without a fight. With our first amendment rights under fire, we?ve made a daring legal move that we believe will help us defend ourselves under the law and keep this site up, allowing us to keep bringing you, your friends, your parents, and your creepy uncle the insanity that?s had us in stitches since we started. Thing is, we need your support.

Please help us by donating to our legal fund. Every little bit counts, and any proceeds in excess of our legal fees will go to a charity of our fans? choosing.

Thanks everyone!

- The Lamebook Boys


Lester Burnham 01-26-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17872309)
i imagine the cheapest thing for facebook to do would be just go through icann to get the websites taken down...youll see a rush of those i think before you see a rush of lawsuits unless the lawsuits are retaliatory if people think their sites were taken down without cause

Filing a UDRP action is about $2K-$10K a pop in legal fees (and about a $1500 filing fee). Not much money to FB obviously, but preparing the paperwork, filing, etc. can be a pain.

FB just spams cease and desist letters, and because people are so scared of them, most capitulate rather quickly. They basically conduct shock-and-awe.

Sophisticated domain owners can also appeal an adverse UDRP action in the U.S. courts.

I love that Lamebook is fighting back.

Lester Burnham 01-26-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 17872313)
I was just going by what their site shows:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6303/lamebook.jpg

Their donate page does say they made a "daring legal move," but they don't specifically say what it is.

Yea, understandable why you thought Facebook sued Lamebook. However, Lamebook sued Facebook initially (Facebook filed in CA shortly thereafter). Facebook threatened them, and Lamebook decided to strike first and sue in a favorable forum (Texas I believe). IF someone threatens to sue you, you can file a "declaratory relief" action where you sue the person that threatened you. You are basically saying to the court, "the dude that is threatening me is full of shit; please resolve in my favor and make the dude that threatened me pay my costs".

That is the "daring move" Lamebook is talking about.

I've read Facebook's motion to move the venue (it is online if you look around). It is kinda funny, because before the lawsuit, Facebook's lawyer wanted to talk to the Lamebook lawyer, and the Lamebook said, "I'll get back to you soon...I have a CRAZY busy day tomorrow...." The next day, Lamebook sued Facebook ROFL. Yep, he was crazy busy alright.

CyberDilemma 01-26-2011 11:10 PM

I would think that anything using the words "facebook" and "sex" together would create a hissy fit with facebook's legal department as far as both copyright infringement issues as well as branding issues. My guess is either this site is hosted in a far, far away place where it is difficult for anyone to touch them OR facebook is somehow profiting from it behind the scenes. Sex sells....facebook might as well jump on the bandwagon.

raven1083 01-27-2011 12:37 AM

FB don't care at all.

Agent 488 04-17-2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17870942)
I don't believe FB doesn't care, I think something will be happening soon.

only right answer in this thread.


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