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Sly 01-19-2011 05:23 PM

House passes health care repeal
 
overwhelmingly. Does that mean it's "right" and the "will of the American people"?

That's what I kept hearing from the last majority.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110119/...th_care_repeal

The Demon 01-19-2011 05:46 PM

All I know is, even in the CNN and MSNBC polls, the majority wanted Obamacare repealed. It won't be though..

_Richard_ 01-19-2011 05:50 PM

wootz, back to providing the best health care money can buy

epitome 01-19-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17856443)
overwhelmingly. Does that mean it's "right" and the "will of the American people"?

That's what I kept hearing from the last majority.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110119/...th_care_repeal

We got rid of the Senate and President? Whatever the House says is now law? Interesting development.

arock10 01-19-2011 06:26 PM

overwhelmingly = along party lines

IllTestYourGirls 01-19-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17856542)
overwhelmingly = along party lines

Yeah makes you wonder why the Democrats are still playing politics when the will of the people was so clear. The last election was a clear mandate to repeal and/or show disgust with Obamacare.

The vote was 245-189.

Rochard 01-19-2011 06:30 PM

This is politics at it's finest. It doesn't matter if the bill is good or bad; I honestly don't know. But now we can make a law, and then repeal it a few months later. TALK ABOUT TOTALLY FUCKING OVER EVERYONE!

Brujah 01-19-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17856443)
overwhelmingly. Does that mean it's "right" and the "will of the American people"?

That's what I kept hearing from the last majority.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110119/...th_care_repeal

It is the will of the political party with the majority. Who put them there both times? The people. So indirectly it was the will of the American people both times.

IllTestYourGirls 01-19-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17856558)
It is the will of the political party with the majority. Who put them there both times? The people. So indirectly it was the will of the American people both times.

Clearly the last party that was in charge misunderstood the will of the people :2 cents:

Brujah 01-19-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17856551)
The last election was a clear mandate that the American people are easily manipulated by media talking heads and fearmongers. They don't call it the ignorant masses for nothing.

fixed :winkwink:

tony286 01-19-2011 06:37 PM

actually the polls are almost even on each side. so its the will of half the people. Also you dont want to go down the will of the people road. It was the will of the people blacks and woman couldnt vote. If you put what we do up to the will of the people ,we would be in trouble. lol

DateDoc 01-19-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17856561)
I suck cock for free :winkwink:

More power to you!:thumbsup

GatorB 01-19-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17856489)
All I know is, even in the CNN and MSNBC polls, the majority wanted Obamacare repealed. It won't be though..

Actually you are incorrect. Actually most favor it.

Brujah 01-19-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17856570)
I'm still having sex with my sister. :Oh crap

More power to you!:thumbsup

GatorB 01-19-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17856566)
actually the polls are almost even on each side.

Actually if you ask about the individual parts of "obamacare" without telling people they are part of Obamacare, the overwhlemingly vast majority favors Obamacare.

GatorB 01-19-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17856443)
overwhelmingly. Does that mean it's "right" and the "will of the American people"?

That's what I kept hearing from the last majority.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110119/...th_care_repeal

Won't get anywhere in the Sneate and even if it did Obama would veto the repeal and neither the house or senate has 2/3 to override.

Sly 01-19-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17856566)
actually the polls are almost even on each side. so its the will of half the people. Also you dont want to go down the will of the people road. It was the will of the people blacks and woman couldnt vote. If you put what we do up to the will of the people ,we would be in trouble. lol

Hey I'm just repeating what I've been told for the last two years.

Vendzilla 01-19-2011 07:17 PM

Liberals are looking for any way to spin this
Last November, the GOP ran on repealing the healthcare law, I think it's pretty apparent that's what the people want, you guys can spin that any way you want.
It passed in the house, now Reid wants to block it from going to vote in the senate, why? Because he is worried that the senators that vote no on the repeal will lose their jobs like their counterparts did in November come 2012.
It might actually pass in the senate because of that, then it would go to Obama, if he vetos it, which he will, no doubt there
The vote will be used in 2012 to rally voters, plain and simple.

This is a purely strategic move, argueing the healthcare law now is superfluous.

tony286 01-19-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17856626)
Liberals are looking for any way to spin this
Last November, the GOP ran on repealing the healthcare law, I think it's pretty apparent that's what the people want, you guys can spin that any way you want.
It passed in the house, now Reid wants to block it from going to vote in the senate, why? Because he is worried that the senators that vote no on the repeal will lose their jobs like their counterparts did in November come 2012.
It might actually pass in the senate because of that, then it would go to Obama, if he vetos it, which he will, no doubt there
The vote will be used in 2012 to rally voters, plain and simple.

This is a purely strategic move, argueing the healthcare law now is superfluous.

Now isnt it a huge waste of tax payer dollars arguing to repeal law that they wont be able to repeal? Doing political moves on the peoples dime? Now if they came in all about wasteful spending. This seems like wasteful spending of our tax dollars. Also how many of them are saying keep your government health care I dont want it? Or the government pension they get for life I doubt many. Henry Ford once said that he could get half the working class to kill the other half. Its so true and so sad.

Vendzilla 01-19-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17856669)
Now isnt it a huge waste of tax payer dollars arguing to repeal law that they wont be able to repeal? Doing political moves on the peoples dime? Now if they came in all about wasteful spending. This seems like wasteful spending of our tax dollars. Also how many of them are saying keep your government health care I dont want it? Or the government pension they get for life I doubt many. Henry Ford once said that he could get half the working class to kill the other half. Its so true and so sad.

Kinda like Barry spending a trillion on shovel ready projects forgetting the bureaucracy that the government has put in place to prevent just that?

So Tony, whats worse, Democrats spending a year getting the law passed that showing by the vote in November the people don't want, or the GOP spending a week getting it ready to repeal it like the voters clearly want, never mind any polls on this, November results show what the people wanted.

The debate over the healthcare law is over, the people voted, Barry said it was a shellacking, remember that.

GatorB 01-19-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17856579)
Hey I'm just repeating what I've been told for the last two years.

yes repaet bullshit your were told instead of doing research yourself. Also "Obamacare" hasn't even been around 2 years. Also people are changing their minds. what someone though 2 years ago or a year ago or 6 months ago is moot.

GatorB 01-19-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17856626)
Liberals are looking for any way to spin this
Last November, the GOP ran on repealing the healthcare law, I think it's pretty apparent that's what the people want, you guys can spin that any way you want.
It passed in the house, now Reid wants to block it from going to vote in the senate, why? Because he is worried that the senators that vote no on the repeal will lose their jobs like their counterparts did in November come 2012.
It might actually pass in the senate because of that, then it would go to Obama, if he vetos it, which he will, no doubt there
The vote will be used in 2012 to rally voters, plain and simple.

Except by Nov 2012 people will be FOR it. People don't really want it repealed once they actualyl LEARN whats in it and not believe the bullshit that Faux News spits out. Honeslty what sick is is FOR taking away insurance of sick kids? I mean besides republicans and teabaggers. Saving $5 on your taxes is worth a little kids life? People who think that way need to be shot.

Vendzilla 01-19-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17856757)
Except by Nov 2012 people will be FOR it. People don't really want it repealed once they actualyl LEARN whats in it and not believe the bullshit that Faux News spits out. Honeslty what sick is is FOR taking away insurance of sick kids? I mean besides republicans and teabaggers. Saving $5 on your taxes is worth a little kids life? People who think that way need to be shot.

Sick kids in poor families get government help on healthcare, you ignorant fuck.

Is it comforting to know if someone shot you in the cranium, due the diminished size of your gray matter would miss such a diminutive destination?

2MuchMark 01-19-2011 09:21 PM

Tonight, Palin tweaked her nipples while a 9/11 First Responder coughed-up another piece of lung.

DaddyHalbucks 01-19-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17856496)
wootz, back to providing the best health care money can buy

Better that than redistribution of wealth, socialism, and death panels.

I don't want Big Sis in my colon.

DaddyHalbucks 01-19-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17856576)
Actually if you ask about the individual parts of "obamacare" without telling people they are part of Obamacare, the overwhlemingly vast majority favors Obamacare.

Only the underclass wants Obamacare, the parasites of our culture.

The "vast majority" --is like two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

Brujah 01-19-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17856826)
Only the underclass wants Obamacare, the parasites of our culture.

The "vast majority" --is like two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

Interesting. I've never heard the wealthiest 1% being described as sheep before.

Barry-xlovecam 01-19-2011 11:24 PM

Just another political maneuver. A symbolic gesture.

cykoe6 01-19-2011 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17856757)
People who think that way need to be shot.

More right wing hate rhetoric. :(

ShellyCrash 01-20-2011 12:38 AM

Obama's approval ratings went up this month, he's back in the 50%. As the economy improves so will his ratings.

What this country needs is a public option, but god forbid you mention it.

Xer0 01-20-2011 02:33 PM

America does need a public option.

As far as I know, if you loose a well paid job with healthcare benefits - your screwed.
Either you pay a fortune or suffer an agonising death.

No wonder, their are so many obese Americans.
(Eating comfort food and taking medication with adverse side effects)

Obamacare was a good chance to get things right - as it is in good European countries such as Germany, Holland, Britain and France etc.


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