How much $ should an average tgp make?
 

Based on the amount of traffic they receive I am guessing the following:

approx $5k/mth US for every 100,000 visitors/day

I'm not asking for any magic secrets on how to get traffic etc, I just want to know what that kind of traffic should generate?

Ahahaha... as if.
If you have heavily circlejerked traffic.. like I do, you won't have NEARLY 5k/month.

5k/month with 100k daily :1orglaugh

10k/month US for every 200k visitors/day

:BangBang:

-Nato

yeah,probably few years ago

great finally I am getting some truth :))

So say 3k/mth per 100,000?

flyingco is saying 10k/mth for 200,000 which is 5k/mth per 100,000

So 3-5k/mth per 100,000 daily?

You can't just say hey I double my traffic so my income will be doubled too. It depends on too many factors.


Q.

there are some factors that make a tgp to bring much more $ than another. These are: the # of bookmarkers, the SE traffic it receives and the promo skills of the webmaster. At the moment I don't think many tgps make $5k/100k daily surfers. Also how many 100k tgps do you know? Not that many. Most tgp webmasters deal with much lower traffic and try to increase their income from galleries.

1-15k/month per 100k daily, depending on niche, traffic source, amount of traffic, advertising skills etc.

Ok, so the more bookmarkers the better - do they buy?

What about a site that has 70k bookmarkers for example and 30 in SE and trades?

Again I am trying to get an average - so I am talking about a clean site that has a healthy bookmark base decent SE traffic and average design skills, and using hosted galleries in the best gallery spots etc.

If you do everything right and honest and have good trades with no excessive blind linking and cj'ing and you update every day and build a base of bookmarkers... then is 5k/mth from 100k/day a fair number?

Obviously you make the most when you sell ad/gallery spots on your site ;) but aside from doing that - using ads on the site, and using mainly hosted galleries in the good spots - I don't see any other ways to suck more out of a tgp other than using toplists and banner exchanges which can't be good for gwoing bookmarkers, unless of course bookmarkers suck and who needs em?

I don't know maybe an expert can step in here and clear things up...

I posted this a while ago... you might find some parallels http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=86779

$1499 mo for every 50,000 daily

If you´re not making 5k/100,000(3000000) something is wrong with your site.

I have a tgp that brings in around $2k a month and only gets a little over 10k hits a day.

Well if you do a hun listing and promote penis pills expect a bigger cock

$1000 a month on 4K daily traffic.

Every TGP around earns exactly $3879.23 per 100k visitors per day.

There are no exceptions. People who claim to be deviating from this amount are LYING.

haha nice one fatpad :)

How are you these days?

Want to trade?

I earned $6320 with a WebsiteBilling sponsor, so websitebilling made sure to just send me 3879.23

I have 100k visitors a day and I do very well, but it also has a lot to do with marketing skills and traffic source. :thumbsup

BTW I do not blind link, or circle jerk, all my traffic is quality and the site is very clean.

interesting thread....

dont start a movie post there dead waste of time and energy u shouldnt do it no no!

I mean from reading all the responses sounds like a waste of energy right? correct me if Im wrong!

That much work would be worth 5K a month to you?


Jak

LOL....Classic!:thumbsup

being in a factory is work...pumping gas is work...working at walmart is work.....

Being a gallery whore is a much more attractive option when it comes to the amount of "work" you have to do.

I suppose, sure. What I'm saying is, to run a TGP like that, updating every day, building up to 100K and keeping it that way, dealing with gallery checking, etc. etc. wouldn't that basically exclude you from having much time to make any other sites profitable? At that point would all that be worth only 5K per month?

I have a couple of TGPs just for the hell of it and they probably get, oh, I don't know... 12 visitors a day? :1orglaugh I just can't see putting too much time into developing them to 100K sites if it meant so much work. I try to develop, build up, and then let loose and forget the sites I do, and they continue to make money for me while I go off and develop another one.

To run a successful TGP means you have to be on it every single day. One slipup and all your traffic is gone. I guess I just can't see dealing with such a headache at the exclusion of everything else for such a low amount of profit.

Jak

"About a hundred dollers... yeah, definitly about a hundred dollars."

TGP is not for the weak of heart...


honestly I dont know how u TGP guys do it I mean I couldnt run a TGP day in and day out thats crazy! do some real work like submit galleries :D

This is very true, not for the weak of heart...but then again, if you have good results then it makes it worth it...at least to me it is:winkwink:

You got some great traffic. :)

Thank you very much!!:thumbsup You also send quality, I love it!!

i know a friend who gets max 400 clicks per day and his average monthly earning is 6000$ from dialer

Fatpad! I wanna trade....if you got icq add me at 20231065

Or email me at [email protected] and we can set one up if ya want.

I think you can get at least a 800% prod from my site now.

I know a friend who only makes comments to direct poeple twards the sponsor in his sig.... but he bullshits a lot. :thumbsup

200k a day = $6,000 US

Over a certain size it must go up as you can sell gallery spots. So a 100k might make $3k and 300k makes $15k? So bigger is better.

-$500 incl bandwith costs

If it's just an "average" TGP (nothing special about it at all), why should it make ANY money at all?

:1orglaugh ...I know better than that!!:winkwink:

If you don't trade traffic you should make more than 5k per 100,000 visitors, but if it's just another cj traffic trading tgp you'll make less.

hmm popular thread.

It's funny reading the posts from the tgp owners are clearly not making as much the others - you can tell by their snide posts LOL

insecurities coming out :) it looks good on ya ;)

Thanks for those who had the balls to reply honestly.

from reading this post and the other one that wa linked here I am putting the number at 5k-10k/mth per 100k/day

I also see from these posts that having mostly bookmarkers is a good thing.

One more question tho - if you take HQ surfers from SE's etc and send them to a tgp that has all hosted galleries and you build bookmarkers out of those surfers - are they just as good as having a surfer come from another tgp thru a trade who bookmarks your site - or are they higher quality because they bookmarking a 'shitty' site that only lists 10 new hosted galleries/day and has only 4 days of galleries listed?

Lets move this conversation to bookmarker behaviour now that we have the avg $$

1 more $ question then... if you have 30k in trades and 70k in bookmarkers and it's 95% hosted galleries on you site - would you be in the 10-15k range then?

Hard to say, probably not. If your bookmarkers are all surfers who have seen 10+ other tgps and know how much free porn is out there and how easy it is to get, not to mention probably have others bookmarked as well, you're not going to make as much as you would if your bookmarkers found you from SE's and shit.

You mention using all hosted galleries, if you're interested in building a good base of bookmarkers, stay away from them as much as possible. Especially if you're trading traffic.

I would actually have to say yes...I have a lot of bookmarkers and do a lot of trades, I do run a fair amount of hosted galleries but not 95%, but the results are great. But a tgp involves a lot of work, but if you do a slam-up update then results will show.

thanks for the info Rich - personally ALL of my traffic does come from SE's and LL's and I do not trade with REAL tgps.

My tgp only has 10 new galleries/day and lists 4 days of galleries.

My hope is to keep these bookmarkers high quality and not send them to real tgps.

My hope is that IF these surfers bookmark a site that only has 10 new hosted galleries listed per day on it that they are dumbasses who have never seen a good tgp otherwise they would jump ship and keep visiting a real tgp with tons of selection and GOOD galleries.

This is why I started this thread to determine if it is worth it to trade my site up with real tgps that reward productivity, and open gallery submissions up to the public to list bette galleries and get more bookmarkers etc. But if what I am doing sounds like it makes senses then I am not going to trade with them and may only open up submissions to webmasters who build free sites for the LL's and put my recip on their main page - I'll list one of their galleries from their free site and then put them into an archive permanently at the bottom of my site.

This would mean listing more than 10 galleries/day tho since I want to keep my 10 hosted galleries as my money makers - I'm not sure if listing more than 10 galleries/day will kill the quality of my bookmarkers because they now have mor to look at?

I'm trying to determine a long term strategy with this :)

hey someone give me their clickcash account number - I am signing up and have no one to fill in as my referral ;)

That's a good way to do it jojojo, you'll make more money with a smaller tgp if you can get quality traffic and turn them into bookmarkers like that, then some half cj tgp could with 5x the traffic.

BTW, here's my clickcash ref code: http://apps.ClickCash.com/cgi/cc_ref...ALLTHEFREECAMS :Graucho

That is what I was hoping to hear Rich ;)

Thanks for the ref code too ;)

I guess I will keep doing what I am doing then and see how the bookmarking goes - so far so good - I am trying to give them just enough to bookmark the site and stay HQ

I wouldn't do it buddy.