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$5 submissions 12-27-2010 01:18 PM

Man quits job to make $120K a year SUING SPAMMERS
 
Guy makes roughly $120K a year making money off spam settlements.

Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101226/D9KBQRMG0.html

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Eight years ago, Balsam was working as a marketer when he received one too many e-mail pitches to enlarge his breasts.
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Still, Balsam settles enough lawsuits and collects enough from judgments to make a living. He has racked up well in excess of $1 million in court judgments and lawsuit settlements with companies accused of sending illegal spam.

TidalWave 12-27-2010 01:25 PM

Hmmm... Ima get in on this game

$5 submissions 12-27-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 17803111)
Hmmm... Ima get in on this game

Dude has 100 emails.

If you're thinking of getting in on this, remember that most of his victories are DEFAULT JUDGMENTS--paper victories. Collecting is another matter entirely.

I guess he gets around the duds by focusing on companies he knows CAN pay like tagged.com (mentioned in the article)

woj 12-27-2010 01:28 PM

one parasite feeding off another parasite... :thumbsup

Phoenix 12-27-2010 01:40 PM

hes probably opting in to receive emails then going after them

hes a parasite is right

seeandsee 12-27-2010 01:43 PM

he is smart, who cares

lazycash 12-27-2010 01:44 PM

Sounds like Acacia

V_RocKs 12-27-2010 02:12 PM

Sounds like an awesome way to make some cash!

papill0n 12-27-2010 02:14 PM

http://danhatesspam.com/smallclaims.html

Dating Gold & Adult Friend Finder

will76 12-27-2010 02:35 PM

I read this and it made me think of Steve for some reason.

Kiopa_Matt 12-27-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17803242)
I read this and it made me think of Steve for some reason.

Exactly. If I'm going to be a cunt, might as well do it right, and extort people out of money instead. "If you don't give me $xxxx, I'm telling your wife, neighbors, and co-workers what you download!"

$5 submissions 12-27-2010 02:45 PM

The $120K a year estimate is based on the fact that he's been suing spammers from 2002 to present. So that figure is an AVERAGE. Income per year is probably not spread out evenly since settlement patterns differ from year to year.

Agent 488 12-27-2010 02:46 PM

of course no one reads the article and understand his tactics. fuck this place.

DamianJ 12-27-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17803260)
Exactly. If I'm going to be a cunt, might as well do it right, and extort people out of money instead. "If you don't give me $xxxx, I'm telling your wife, neighbors, and co-workers what you download!"

:) 8 char

Barry-xlovecam 12-27-2010 03:52 PM

Nice to see spammers are good for something — I was thinking they where worthless shits ...

djroof 12-27-2010 03:59 PM

this is real biz!

WiredGuy 12-27-2010 04:13 PM

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In November, he won a $4,000 judgment against Various Inc., an "adult-oriented" social media company that controls AdultFriendFinder.com.

A judge sided with Balsam, who sued after he received four identical e-mails sent to four different accounts with the identical subject line "Hello my name is Rebecca, I love you." It's the fourth time he's beat Various in court.
Guess his business model is working, although seems like he's doing all the work himself. Not that great of a payout if he's doing all the work in litigation.
WG

jesse_adultdatingdollars 12-27-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 17803119)
one parasite feeding off another parasite... :thumbsup

agreed.....dirt bag

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-27-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17803139)
hes probably opting in to receive emails then going after them

hes a parasite is right

Why would he even have to opt in? You get enough spam emails as is.

BlackCrayon 12-27-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17803460)
Why would he even have to opt in? You get enough spam emails as is.

you don't stand a chance collecting from real spammers, just companies who send out opt in crap mostly.

sandman! 12-27-2010 09:08 PM

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Spudstr 12-27-2010 09:30 PM

I know someone who he sued, and won against. He only goes after companies based in CA and he goes to small claims because you can't really bring a lawyer to small claims to represent you its really you vs him and him being who he is and does this for a living will run circles around someone in front of a judge.

He picks his targets that he knows he can win and collect on.

will76 12-27-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 17803818)
I know someone who he sued, and won against. He only goes after companies based in CA and he goes to small claims because you can't really bring a lawyer to small claims to represent you its really you vs him and him being who he is and does this for a living will run circles around someone in front of a judge.

He picks his targets that he knows he can win and collect on.

Small claims has limits (here it is around $3,500). And you can bring an attorney if you want. CA = california or Canada? i didnt read the article.

CaptainWolfy 12-28-2010 12:11 AM

really nice way to get some cash without doing something actually :D

loreen 12-28-2010 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainWolfy (Post 17803912)
really nice way to get some cash without doing something actually :D

It's still work.

nnweb 12-28-2010 05:23 AM

been sued by this loser twice.

Spudstr 12-28-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17803890)
Small claims has limits (here it is around $3,500). And you can bring an attorney if you want. CA = california or Canada? i didnt read the article.

California, not canada sorry. But yes on average he makes 1500-3k per shot he takes to court, since its small claims its a quick trial and your done. Since he does all his legal work himself on collections and such he does pretty well for himself.

There was another company in maryland doing the same thing as well. VA is starting to be a hotspot for stuff like this as well.

woj 12-28-2010 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 17804337)
Since he does all his legal work himself on collections and such he does pretty well for himself.

yea, he does alright, but he could just as easily score $120k doing productive work instead of wasting judges' time and leeching off spammers... :2 cents:

pornguy 12-28-2010 08:28 AM

And as we see it has no effect. Get them for 20 or 30 million and that might make a change. 4k ?? thats a joke and write off.

Paul Markham 12-29-2010 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nnweb (Post 17804098)
been sued by this loser twice.

ERRRRR

I think he was the winner and you the loser.

He's suing people who break the law. Good luck to him. Laws are useless unless they§re enforced. If more people did it their would be less spam.

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In November, he won a $4,000 judgment against Various Inc., an "adult-oriented" social media company that controls AdultFriendFinder.com.

A judge sided with Balsam, who sued after he received four identical e-mails sent to four different accounts with the identical subject line "Hello my name is Rebecca, I love you." It's the fourth time he's beat Various in court.
AFF and a few other dating companies might become targets for these type of guys. They are clearly scamming consumers.

Davy 12-29-2010 03:59 AM

I will look into it, thanks for the info.

gaffg 12-29-2010 08:42 AM

not a bad gig

96ukssob 12-29-2010 10:27 AM

damn, not a bad idea :1orglaugh


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